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#151 OFFLINE   Church AV Guy

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:22 PM

Did you notice that in the clip of the lights going off, it only shows north and soutn America, never Europe, Asia, Africa, or Australia. Are the lights off there too?

In the scene where the computer powers up, the shelf above the computer has a bunch of lead-acid car batteries wired together with jumper cables. I assume we are meant to deduce that the pendant locally cancels whatever is suppressing the power and allows the batteries to power her computer. This would suggest that if we could turn off the suppression, everything would power up again.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:58 PM

The electric has been gone for how long?

Lead acid discharges even when not used. Lead Acid batteries have a finite life even when unused. The only ones that could sit for long periods of time were the ones where you bought the battery and the acid came separate and you had to add it to the battery.

I believe those are long gone however.

No way those batteries would be working after even 6 months unless they could also be kept charged.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:46 PM

The electric has been gone for how long?

Lead acid discharges even when not used. Lead Acid batteries have a finite life even when unused. The only ones that could sit for long periods of time were the ones where you bought the battery and the acid came separate and you had to add it to the battery.

I believe those are long gone however.

No way those batteries would be working after even 6 months unless they could also be kept charged.


That is just one of teh inconsistencies you need to ignore. They also showed the music player and iPhone coming back to life for a few minutes when the button was pressed. Same thing is true for those batteries, so I just take it as whatever is suppressing the functioning of electricity is suppressing the discharge of batteries.

I am enjoying the show and do want to see how the story develops. They are releasing enough elements of the backstory to keep it interesting.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:05 PM

I hit rewind when the iPhone came on to make sure it didn't show as being connected to a network. :lol: Anyone else?

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:56 PM

The electric has been gone for how long?

Lead acid discharges even when not used. Lead Acid batteries have a finite life even when unused. The only ones that could sit for long periods of time were the ones where you bought the battery and the acid came separate and you had to add it to the battery.

I believe those are long gone however.

No way those batteries would be working after even 6 months unless they could also be kept charged.

I guess I was thinking that whatever is preventing current from flowing in electrical devices, aside from biological systems, is locking electrons in their positions, so the batteries will not self-discharge because self-discharging is in fact a minute current flow.

I wonder if lightening and electric eels still work?
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:16 PM

I hit rewind when the iPhone came on to make sure it didn't show as being connected to a network. :lol: Anyone else?


Ha...yeah, I didn't need to rewind, but I did specifically take note that it said "Searching..." instead of listing a carrier.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:12 PM

I guess I was thinking that whatever is preventing current from flowing in electrical devices, aside from biological systems, is locking electrons in their positions, so the batteries will not self-discharge because self-discharging is in fact a minute current flow.

I wonder if lightening and electric eels still work?


It would also have to stop the chemical reaction that slowly destroys the lead plates.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:27 PM

Ha...yeah, I didn't need to rewind, but I did specifically take note that it said "Searching..." instead of listing a carrier.


Oh goody it wasn't just me. :D

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:49 PM

I guess I was thinking that whatever is preventing current from flowing in electrical devices, aside from biological systems, is locking electrons in their positions, so the batteries will not self-discharge because self-discharging is in fact a minute current flow.

I wonder if lightening and electric eels still work?


It would also have to stop the chemical reaction that slowly destroys the lead plates.

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Hey! If you're going to allow magic (no electric current through wires no matter how it's generated) then nothing is beyond believability, right?
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:07 PM

I hit rewind when the iPhone came on to make sure it didn't show as being connected to a network. :lol: Anyone else?


Heh. Although, there could be WiFi everywhere; just no one on earth would know it, as there is nothing to access it, except the momentary life in the strange house. .....

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:41 PM

Even mules pulling a steel-rimmed wagon create a slight, but measurable current flow by induction. Give those animules a couple of 'giddyups' and watch the sparks fly. At least in a future world where almost anything is possible. :P

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:43 PM

The thing that bothers me is that the Industrial Revolution started before we had electricity. We managed to have steam engines long before we had electric anything...and that included inventing it all from scratch. Modern mechanical engineers would know how to design and build them without having to do any research. So, 15 years after such a blackout wouldn't look like the 18th century world the show depicts, but would be more a steam-punk world (which could have been a really interesting direction to take).

All that said, I go along with the suspension of disbelief and am enjoying the show so far.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 06:58 AM

Watched last nights episode, and it is getting better to me. New twists in the plot and people relationships every day.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:21 AM

The thing that bothers me is that the Industrial Revolution started before we had electricity. We managed to have steam engines long before we had electric anything...and that included inventing it all from scratch. Modern mechanical engineers would know how to design and build them without having to do any research. So, 15 years after such a blackout wouldn't look like the 18th century world the show depicts, but would be more a steam-punk world (which could have been a really interesting direction to take).

All that said, I go along with the suspension of disbelief and am enjoying the show so far.


Absolutely! And unless somehow supplies of ingredients for modern gunpowder disappeared, weaponry would not have reverted to 18th C. Not so difficult to reload shells, and brass foundries would have found a renaissance, along with iron and steel mills.

Soft drinks would be in plentiful supply.

Wait, a new thought! Could there be an underground pod of people who have juice but have morphed into some sort of..... dark creatures?? Oh, maybe that's another movie....
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Posted 09 October 2012 - 01:10 PM

The thing that bothers me is that the Industrial Revolution started before we had electricity. We managed to have steam engines long before we had electric anything...and that included inventing it all from scratch. Modern mechanical engineers would know how to design and build them without having to do any research. So, 15 years after such a blackout wouldn't look like the 18th century world the show depicts, but would be more a steam-punk world (which could have been a really interesting direction to take).

All that said, I go along with the suspension of disbelief and am enjoying the show so far.


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 01:29 PM

I would welcome a future where I can't get shocked touching a door knob after shuffling across the floor in my socks.
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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

Watched last nights episode, and it is getting better to me. New twists in the plot and people relationships every day.

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Yep tornado, didn't see lightening. Coming attraction showed a working steam engine train. Only got a quick peek, but I seem to remember it as being a rusty bucket instead of being a working museum engine.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:20 PM

There was plenty of thunder which means lightning.
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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:34 PM

There was plenty of thunder which means lightning.

Head the thunder too, but in this show of mis-match science, I wouldn't assume anything.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:12 PM

I did not hear thunder as this was a tornado.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:30 PM

I did hear thunder before the tornado hit, and while I do not remember seeing a lightning strike directly I think there were some bright flashes I took as reflections of lightning.

I delete the show as soon as I am finished watching, it looks like I should keep this one for a while to go back and review discussion points... :)
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 07:18 PM

Just a reminder... If you guys want to discuss certain events from specific episodes you should start a thread specific to that episode so that there are no spoilers.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:46 AM

After the latest episode I am out. Too much whiny Charlie and pointless soap opera crap. Crazy dog guy was the only worthwhile part of the last episode.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 10:03 PM

As a train enthusiast, tonight's episode had lots of basic steam engine errors.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 07:04 AM

As a train enthusiast, tonight's episode had lots of basic steam engine errors.

Here we go! :rolleyes:

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