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#26 OFFLINE   olguy

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:31 PM

As one who used to be bothered by such "inaccuracies" it is a lot easier when you realize these shows do NOT take place in our world this is as different to us as Star Wars. Bitching about this is no different than complaining because an alien wasn't portrayed right in Star Wars or Star Trek.

If this was advertised as a factual documentary following a REAL submarine or retelling a true story then you would have a point. Of course I also know people like to be offended and complain about things so what more should I expect.


As for the show I liked it, looks like the Pres. or CEO or whatever he is-- is pulling a Wag the dog to prevent impeachment.

This show is supposed to be in the here and now. It is not science fiction. It is fiction but there are some things I and many other submarine vets can't ignore. As I said, I usually am able to turn off my disbelief and I can ignore a few technical discrepancies. I have enjoyed several technically inaccurate submarine movies. I'm glad some of you enjoyed it. I'm sure I enjoy some programs you don't. Thank goodness we have more than one channel.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 08:47 PM

This show is supposed to be in the here and now. It is not science fiction. It is fiction but there are some things I and many other submarine vets can't ignore. As I said, I usually am able to turn off my disbelief and I can ignore a few technical discrepancies. I have enjoyed several technically inaccurate submarine movies. I'm glad some of you enjoyed it. I'm sure I enjoy some programs you don't. Thank goodness we have more than one channel.


I'm not a vet of any kind... and my father was in the Air Force... so I have nothing concrete to go on here... but I admit, while watching this... it didn't feel real to me.

I like some of the players, particularly Braugher... so I'll stick with it to see where it goes... but IF I were looking for a realistic portrayal of a "current world" military gone wrong TV show... I concur that this wouldn't be it.

On that level, I think you and others shouldn't take offense (although I can see if you do)... because this truly is a fictionalized representation of what someone thinks might happen on a submarine command... it smacks of not having a military consultant aboard the production.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:01 PM

This show is supposed to be in the here and now. It is not science fiction. It is fiction but there are some things I and many other submarine vets can't ignore. As I said, I usually am able to turn off my disbelief and I can ignore a few technical discrepancies. I have enjoyed several technically inaccurate submarine movies. I'm glad some of you enjoyed it. I'm sure I enjoy some programs you don't. Thank goodness we have more than one channel.


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Posted 28 September 2012 - 09:42 PM

Don't forget: there were some quick scenes showing the President was being impeached and basically DC was in chaos.

Then we have the Seal team being recovered by the Colorado after the Seal team took "some kind" of action, and at the end of the show we find out more about this, in two different scenes.

I'm sure we'll hear more about the power struggle in DC, and I'm sure this has something to do with the "backup" method being used to tell the Colorado to launch the missiles, because there's a faction of the government operating outside of the normal channels.

It's political intrigue. It's fiction. I'm entertained and I'm here for the ride...

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:08 PM

If I didn't watch shows that got my field of expertise wrong (computers, programming, networking, geek stuff, etc) I'd never watch TV. While I do respect your opinion, and thank you for past service, I don't agree with not watching a TV show just because it's not technically perfect or plausible.


Ain't that the truth .. It's so bad I actively seek out inaccuracies just to see how bad they got it. I ignore it and reconcile it in my head by making it accurate so that I can move on with the storyline.

I really get a kick out of the few times I've seen an IP number that looks like this --> 192.168.256.1024

Some of you IT guys will realize how many ways of wrong that is .. :P


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So me, on the other end of the spectrum knowing very little about subs (it goes under water, right?) .. It all sounded believable to me even though I'm certain there was a lot of crap to it .. like the wall of the infirmary buckling and then somehow it will be miraculously fixed at some later point in the show. Definitely am not going to sweat the little stuff.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:22 PM

Ain't that the truth .. It's so bad I actively seek out inaccuracies just to see how bad they got it. I ignore it and reconcile it in my head by making it accurate so that I can move on with the storyline.

I really get a kick out of the few times I've seen an IP number that looks like this --> 192.168.256.1024

Some of you IT guys will realize how many ways of wrong that is .. :P


My co-workers and I make it a game to find the most incorrect info in movies. Very few times have I seen a show or even movie get IP addresses right. I normally see stuff like 321.285.412.800, not even close. Only one movie (Untraceable) and one TV show (The Big Bang Theory) even come close. I have to just tell myself it's all fantasy. :lol:
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Posted 29 September 2012 - 09:22 AM

--> 192.168.256.1024


That would seem to fall under the "555-" privacy thing, right?
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Posted 29 September 2012 - 12:01 PM

I enjoyed it and I'll keep watching. One thing that does concern me though is that i'm a little worried how'll they sustain this. It seems to have a good premise for a 2 to 3 hour movie, how are they going to stretch it out for a television season length? I mean how long will it take to get stale if every week is a big game of chase and try to destroy the sub and then somehow the crew of the sub manages to miraculously survive every week? Hopefully they'll add enough story elements to keep it interesting.


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Posted 29 September 2012 - 05:52 PM

Ain't that the truth .. It's so bad I actively seek out inaccuracies just to see how bad they got it. I ignore it and reconcile it in my head by making it accurate so that I can move on with the storyline.

I really get a kick out of the few times I've seen an IP number that looks like this --> 192.168.256.1024

Some of you IT guys will realize how many ways of wrong that is .. :P

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So me, on the other end of the spectrum knowing very little about subs (it goes under water, right?) .. It all sounded believable to me even though I'm certain there was a lot of crap to it .. like the wall of the infirmary buckling and then somehow it will be miraculously fixed at some later point in the show. Definitely am not going to sweat the little stuff.


That's why I am enjoying books by Mark Russinovich who really knows malware, or Daniel Suarez. Though I'm in fear of any movie made from them.

As for Last Resort, I'm not sure it will survive anyway.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:34 PM

As a submarine veteran I had no desire to watch this program. It is beyond a stretch of the imagination that something like this could take place. I normally can suspend my disbelief but not this time. Below is just one of many comments by some of my submarine veteran friends. I don't think too many old boat sailors will be watching. Not that it will make a difference to ABC.

I watched it but I'm have a hard time with it too. I'm finding the whole thing too farfetched.

I spent four and a half years on a boomer. They received an authenticated launch order from a proper authority. They would have launched without question. That I can guarantee.

If I want reality I’ll watch the news so I’ll give it another episode but it’s really stretching reality pretty danged far.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:40 PM

I like this show. The writing is tight, the acting is good, and it generally has good production values.

It is a 10 pm Wednesday storyline with 9 pm Tuesday costs. Putting it, or anything else, on at 8 pm Thursday opposite "The Big Bang Theory" and "The X Factor" is much like putting on Friday. If Fox couldn't support "Terra Nova" why ABC thinks it could support this is a mystery.

But I like the show because the main story arc is thoughtful fiction. It would have made a "good read" novel. If it were a miniseries, I'd be more enthused. What would one do writing the fourth episode of season eight? I guess starting a new civilization?

Or maybe they all died and the island is the "Lost" island relocated....

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:04 AM

I like this show. The writing is tight, the acting is good, and it generally has good production values.

It is a 10 pm Wednesday storyline with 9 pm Tuesday costs. Putting it, or anything else, on at 8 pm Thursday opposite "The Big Bang Theory" and "The X Factor" is much like putting on Friday. If Fox couldn't support "Terra Nova" why ABC thinks it could support this is a mystery.

But I like the show because the main story arc is thoughtful fiction.


Agreed!

Or maybe they all died and the island is the "Lost" island relocated....


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 07:12 AM

I like this show. The writing is tight, the acting is good, and it generally has good production values.

It is a 10 pm Wednesday storyline with 9 pm Tuesday costs. Putting it, or anything else, on at 8 pm Thursday opposite "The Big Bang Theory" and "The X Factor" is much like putting on Friday. If Fox couldn't support "Terra Nova" why ABC thinks it could support this is a mystery.

But I like the show because the main story arc is thoughtful fiction. It would have made a "good read" novel. If it were a miniseries, I'd be more enthused. What would one do writing the fourth episode of season eight? I guess starting a new civilization?

Or maybe they all died and the island is the "Lost" island relocated....

what a curve ball that would be :lol:
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 07:14 AM

I like it also, but can't see it lasting much longer... It would have been a great 2-3 night miniseries or a 3 hour movie, but I can't see the story lines staying relevant after a few weeks.

Then again, I liked Flash Forward and that didn't last either.

A "Lost" ending would be funny..

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 07:15 AM

I agree this would probably be a better miniseries aired in the Summer. I do enjoy it but the Crime Boss King of the Island story is pretty lame.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 07:43 AM

^Why did they even have to go there with the story line? Would you really risk everything including your entire crew over three hostages? And then not even check to see what you were turning over to the piss-ant island boss? They have a massive much more interesting plot to work with yet decide to focus in on this island kingpin plot. What a disappointment.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:02 AM

They did have an opportunity to have the Perseus break (or was it sabotaged - oooohhhhh) and the rest of nonsense in Washington.

Yeah, the island "kingpin" is a worthless plot device.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:47 AM

My "plot point issue" is why don't the bad guys (whoever they really are) just kill the chick in Washington DC? The one who designed Perseus (sp?).

And what is the point of converting the wife of the XO into believing her husband is a traitor? Psyops to be sure, but why?

And holding a hero's dead body hostage was just about enough to turn me against the "Powers That Be" with no questions asked. That's what terrorists do.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:06 PM

And holding a hero's dead body hostage was just about enough to turn me against the "Powers That Be" with no questions asked. That's what terrorists do.


We never saw his dead body, just heard the shots. Maybe he isn't really dead. Maybe they will use him as leverage in the future. Why didn;t the captain demand the return of the dead body? He never even asked for it!
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:11 PM

We never saw his dead body, just heard the shots. Maybe he isn't really dead. Maybe they will use him as leverage in the future. Why didn;t the captain demand the return of the dead body? He never even asked for it!

Not the guy that was shot on the island but the Captain's son, who is being refused burial.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:25 PM

Not the guy that was shot on the island but the Captain's son, who is being refused burial.


Yes, that's who I meant. The Captain's son's body is being held as a negotiating tool. That's what terrorists do.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:46 PM

Not the guy that was shot on the island but the Captain's son, who is being refused burial.


Yes, that's who I meant. The Captain's son's body is being held as a negotiating tool. That's what terrorists do.

Sorry, yes I see what you are saying. My brain was stuck on something else obviously. :)
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:46 AM

It's getting silly to me....and I liked it!
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:28 AM

I think the problem are the side plots. Half of them are unnecessary or wildly unbelievable. The only side stories I really care about so far are Christine's and James'.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:31 PM

Canceled but the rest of the 13 episodes will be shown.

I'm reminded again why I don't usually start watching a new series until after the first season. :(




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