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#1 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 03:39 PM

This is the right place to discuss Pac-12 to your heart's content.

However, rudeness and questioning moderation are still not allowed.
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#2 OFFLINE   Alan Gordon

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 03:46 PM

This is the right place to discuss Pac-12 to your heart's content.

However, rudeness and questioning moderation are still not allowed.


I started to suggest people open a thread here, but decided to leave it up to you guys in charge in case I thought wrong. :)

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 03:53 PM

I wanted to address the recruiting issue I brought up earlier.
I know personally of three top flight basketball players who went East to go to school because the recruiters told them all of their games will be on National TV (ESPN & CBS)and the PAC-10 (it was the Pac-10 then) games aren't seen in the East. I'm sure it's a little better now, but considering the DirecTV is the country's second largest provider, it still could be an issue.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 04:12 PM

Very interesting! I hope there was more allure to the schools that those kids chose beyond TV coverage!
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:38 PM

Does anyone know if there will eventually be online streaming available for Dish subscribers?

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:41 PM

Does anyone know if there will eventually be online streaming available for Dish subscribers?


I think I read that they hope to have that available in the near future.. GO COUGS

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 05:55 PM

Now that it's football season, it bugs me that I know I won't be able to see all of Stanford's games without an agreement with DirecTV. I'm trying to think of a sports bar I know which has Dish.

I'm still thinking.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:15 PM

Now that it's football season, it bugs me that I know I won't be able to see all of Stanford's games without an agreement with DirecTV. I'm trying to think of a sports bar I know which has Dish.

I'm still thinking.


Don't worry, Carl, miracles can still happen. BTW, didja know that Stanford beat SC?!! And for the fourth time in a row.....
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:29 PM

Really? When did that happen?

:P

I'm so glad I recorded the game. It will be scary to watch it again. Both teams often looked pretty miserable. In fact, of the four units, the offensive and defensive squads for both teams, only Stanford's defense looked good for most of the game.

But we won! Go Cardinal! Over the years, Stanford has lost so many games by a field goal to those blankity blanks.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:54 PM

This whole situation has turned into one big clusterfunk.
Both sides attacking each other publicly.
DirecTV vs. Pac-12.
I could see it become an epic "VS" showdown.
The old "Versus" channel should come back and televise their conversations and public outcries.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:57 PM

Also, this is now the 5th different Pac-12 thread we've had in the past few weeks.
So let's hope this stays the official thread.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 07:12 PM

But a new thread is so shiny when it only has a few posts, just like the double wing formation when it was new, developed at Stanford by Pop Warner in the 1920s.

Old, long threads are more like John Elway, coming downstairs from his room at the SAE house, carrying a couple of cases of Busch and yelling, "Let's head for the mountains, boys!"

You don't want that, do you?
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 07:41 PM

But a new thread is so shiny when it only has a few posts, just like the double wing formation when it was new, developed at Stanford by Pop Warner in the 1920s.

Old, long threads are more like John Elway, coming downstairs from his room at the SAE house, carrying a couple of cases of Busch and yelling, "Let's head for the mountains, boys!"

You don't want that, do you?


better be careful, if you're not discussing PAC12 then it may be reviewed... :)

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 07:43 PM

So just a quick poll.... Purely just guesses. If DIRECTV gets the PAC12 Network, when do we expect to see it?

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:32 PM

better be careful, if you're not discussing PAC12 then it may be reviewed... :)

I'm not scared. I have James Lofton and Gene Washington on my side.

I want the PAC 12 network so I could be sure I'd get the Big Game. I rarely see it back in Minnesota. Who cares about Stanford/Cal back here?

I do.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 11:04 AM

So just a quick poll.... Purely just guesses. If DIRECTV gets the PAC12 Network, when do we expect to see it?


I honestly don't think it will ever be on DirecTV.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 12:17 PM

The UCLA Bruin in ME chiming in again...

So far, as a DirecTV subscriber on the Ice-Foundland peninsula, with no PAC12 Network,
I got to see the 1st week PAC12 football inter-conference games of significance (upsets):
WISC @ OSU
OKST @ UA
and of course NEB @ UCLA.
I got to see the 2nd week conference marquee matchup
USC @ STAN
and now will get to watch the women's volleyball #1 UCLA @ #2 USC matchup on ESPNU.

I have in addition to all the local/affiliate networks and subchannels via OTA, I have both LA & NY DNS for all ABC/CBS/CW/FOX/NBC/PBS and Premiere so I get all of the ESPN's and 600 regionals.
The LA DNS picks up west coast regional matchups, filling in a lot of PAC12 matchups which I normally would not get on my local or the east coast DNS. (I usually end up with 3X the selections the non-DNS has).

So a significant number of the revenue (FB & BB) AND the non-revenue'rs (Womens VB) look like they'll make their way from the PAC12 network suite onto the national stage.
I watch a wide range of NCAA sports, but almost exclusively matchups of national importance only.
I don't watch soccer, but I watched every World Cup and Olympic match I could.

I'll catch a lacrosse game... if Johns Hopkins is playing Duke for example.
I'll catch women's softball... if UCLA is playing UA, and women's water polo if STAN is playing UCB.
Women's VB is one of the offerings of the PAC12 network, which was going to set it apart... that all of these traditionally non-televised sports were going to be available, all season games for all conference schools... but you'd be out of luck if you didn't have the PAC12 network(s).
Sure looks to me like the PAC12 is shooting itself in the foot.
If the PAC12 intends to sell off any high profile sport/matchup to the highest bidder, then I'm seeing a rapidly diminishing reason for me to even care if a deal ever gets done.
And even if it did, whether I'd see the value of it to me given my personal viewing preferences.
Certainly if there is any premium cost associated with it... even as little as $5 per month, if I would be inclined to pick it up.

I've officially migrated to the "PAC12... Who cares?" camp, until I see evidence down the road to the contrary...

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 11:01 PM

http://pac-12.com/po...fan/120918.html

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:45 AM

http://pac-12.com/po...fan/120918.html


This is just ridiculous. I'm still in a Directv contract, but I keep hearing from those who have switched to DISH that they love it.. Also, last night they opened up Volleyball channels on the DISH in HD. WOW. I'd be real curious to see what the 3rd Qtr earnings are for Directv..

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:19 AM

This is just ridiculous. I'm still in a Directv contract, but I keep hearing from those who have switched to DISH that they love it.. Also, last night they opened up Volleyball channels on the DISH in HD. WOW. I'd be real curious to see what the 3rd Qtr earnings are for Directv..


As usual, they'll be stronger than Dish Network's. The lack of PAC-12 will have very little impact, if any at all. Consider how many customers out of 20 million might be true PAC-12 fans, then consider how many of those people are under a commitment, and finally consider how many of those folks would pay an ETF for this or are out of contract and would leave. The pool of potential defectors just keeps getting smaller. Some churn occurs when a major network is dropped. This may not even register.
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