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#461 OFFLINE   sdk009

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 01:24 PM

ESPN/ESPN HD $4.58
Fox Sports Net $2.37

RSNs: $0.20-$2.15

These numbers are two years old, and I'm sure some have changed, (all Viacom channels for example). I saw a story from last month that said ESPN is now getting $5.31 per sub. The PAC-12 must feel they fit somewhere between Fox Sports Net and the middle tier of the other RSN's.
And we don't know if they want a graduated fee depending on in-market and out-of-market D* subs. Seeing this, though I feel $.90 is too much, and I'd be surprised if Dish is paying that much.

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#462 OFFLINE   kick4fun

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 01:27 PM

Not challenging your allegiance as a fan; you're in the biggest/highest fan tier! :)

What I've asked several times and you have ignored or deflected is: Have you any connection with Pac12 outside of your fandom?


I've not ignored.. :nono2:.. I've answered several times.
So there is no confusion... I AM A Washington State University Alumnus and fan who knows that if Directv signs on, every Pac12 team expects to earn $$$. So, that is the extent of my interest.. Capisce :)

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 01:28 PM

ESPN/ESPN HD $4.58
Fox Sports Net $2.37

RSNs: $0.20-$2.15

These numbers are two years old, and I'm sure some have changed, (all Viacom channels for example). I saw a story from last month that said ESPN is now getting $5.31 per sub. The PAC-12 must feel they fit somewhere between Fox Sports Net and the middle tier of the other RSN's.
And we don't know if they want a graduated fee depending on in-market and out-of-market D* subs. Seeing this, though I feel $.90 is too much, and I'd be surprised if Dish is paying that much.


Dish did make a deal with the exclusive signage in the stadiums.. I wonder how that impacted the price. Hmmm.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 01:30 PM

ESPN/ESPN HD $4.58
Fox Sports Net $2.37

RSNs: $0.20-$2.15

These numbers are two years old, and I'm sure some have changed, (all Viacom channels for example). I saw a story from last month that said ESPN is now getting $5.31 per sub. The PAC-12 must feel they fit somewhere between Fox Sports Net and the middle tier of the other RSN's.
And we don't know if they want a graduated fee depending on in-market and out-of-market D* subs. Seeing this, though I feel $.90 is too much, and I'd be surprised if Dish is paying that much.


I noticed the age of the numbers too, but if they are correct, I have to laugh if Pac 12 thinks it deserves more than the NFL Network !rolling

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 04:42 PM

This post is just a read, not a endorsement for either Directv nor Pac12.. JUST Observations.. All love, my DBS compadres.. :)

http://www.pacificta...-directv-rumors

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 04:47 PM

This post is just a read, not a endorsement for either Directv nor Pac12.. JUST Observations.. All love, my DBS compadres.. :)

http://www.pacificta...-directv-rumors


That guy has no clue how many emails DirecTV has received. The tweet was from a biased writer.
If you stop responding to them or put them on ignore, then eventually they'll go away.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 04:59 PM

I noticed the age of the numbers too, but if they are correct, I have to laugh if Pac 12 thinks it deserves more than the NFL Network !rolling


Per Kagan, the NFL gets 95 cents a month...

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Financial terms were not disclosed. Per SNL Kagan estimates, NFL Network commands one of the highest carriage fees among nationally distributed cable networks—95 cents per subscriber per month. The industry average is one shiny quarter.

http://www.adweek.co...-network-143937
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This isn't about the NFL. It's about the Big-10.

Whatever the Big-10 gets, the Pac-10 deserves 15%, more given that it's a much more accomplished athletic league.
Since 1995 the average cable bill has increased 122%, while TV consumption per household just 13%.

http://www.multichan...1_Per_Month.php

http://blog.nielsen....-all-time-high/

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:26 PM

That guy has no clue how many emails DirecTV has received. The tweet was from a biased writer.


Of course. Pac12 is the shiznit

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:32 PM

That guy has no clue how many emails DirecTV has received. The tweet was from a biased writer.


But it was on a Pac12 website, so you know the reporting couldn't be shaded, slanted, much less outright wrong. (I have no way of knowing the latter):sure:
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:12 PM

But it was on a Pac12 website, so you know the reporting couldn't be shaded, slanted, much less outright wrong. (I have no way of knowing the latter):sure:


Are you sure its a Pac12 website? Hmm

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:52 PM

Per Kagan, the NFL gets 95 cents a month...

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Financial terms were not disclosed. Per SNL Kagan estimates, NFL Network commands one of the highest carriage fees among nationally distributed cable networks—95 cents per subscriber per month. The industry average is one shiny quarter.

http://www.adweek.co...-network-143937
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This isn't about the NFL. It's about the Big-10.

Whatever the Big-10 gets, the Pac-10 deserves 15%, more given that it's a much more accomplished athletic league.


So because of the PAC 12's accolades, I should pay more a month because of it even though I live nowhere close to the PAC 12 areas? I hope that isn't what you mean. If it comes down to a conferences win record in it's sports and placing a value on it due to that alone, then sports itself is lost. Note I said conference. I'm not dragging pro sports into this just to be clear. That is a whole different topic.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:04 PM

The pac 12 channel is very similar to the big10 network. Don't they charge a higher rate per subscriber in that local area and a lower rate for the rest of the nation? The pac 12 is surely worth $90 cents each on the west coast and $20 cents everywhere else. This issue is still hurting big in football. Every week either USC or UCLA have been on that channel. Both are on fox this week, but USC is on pac 12 next week!

These are like pro teams to southern california. It is all we got folks. And we want it now. Even hicks (just kidding) in eastern washington. Everything costs more along the west coast beach. Today we had the first hard rain all summer! No other large population area has it that good. Hey the trojans could still finish top 10. Along with 5 other pac 12 teams. Directv please make a deal now. We will pay more on the west coast. Those fans in their el segundo office need to step up. USC is 10 miles from you guys.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:17 PM

Are you sure its a Pac12 website? Hmm


Not sure, no. But this was at the top:

"Pacific Takes, a Pac-12 community" So, I've eliminated the Big10 as an interested party. :D
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:29 PM

A bunch of emails and phone calls and few leaving directv is worthless. Time to get personal. Directv has 2 main offices. They are in socal and Colorado. USC plays Colorado next week in college football on PAC 12 network. How many big wigs that work for directv do you know? Bug them to death that they can't watch this game. They all want to watch this game. Believe me just within directv managerial employment whoever wins that game is bragging rights! Directv are you really going to make your employees miss this game? Or watch it on cable? lol

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:33 PM

Big Ten Network gets $0.36 and the Pac12 wants how much? $0.90? That's a big deal with 19 million customers.


Really now.

There is an in-market rate and an out of market rate.

The Pac 12 has offered Directv substantially the same terms as Dish Network, Comcast, and the others.

You really think .36 is correct? It's an average rate. Being that Pac 12 is in a good chunk of homes nationwide it's 90 cent rate would also similarly drop to these levels or lower when you consider all of the viewers outside of the Pac 12 footprint.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:35 PM

That guy has no clue how many emails DirecTV has received. The tweet was from a biased writer.


Canzano is a columnist. His role is to stir things up, which he does.

And you call him biased? I think you and everyone else here is the same. He does, however, have more knowledge of the situation than you do and is closer to many folks, he interviews them all the time on his show and for his columns. While he may be biased, he's certainly more believable than many here.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:45 PM

Not sure, no. But this was at the top:

"Pacific Takes, a Pac-12 community" So, I've eliminated the Big10 as an interested party. :D


... Not that maybe Pacific Takes may just mean a Pacific perspective, not necessarily affiliated with Pac12 per say???
.. Just saying

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SB_Nation
And Yes, a Pac12 community from A larger pool..

Edited by kick4fun, 11 October 2012 - 07:59 PM.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:58 PM

But it was on a Pac12 website, so you know the reporting couldn't be shaded, slanted, much less outright wrong. (I have no way of knowing the latter):sure:


That is the most idiotic statement ever.. It's from SB Nation. Yes it says "Pacific Takes, a Pac-12 community", but also speaking on behalf of SB Nation.. Please, just grab a beer and chill out.
Please get the facts right.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SB_Nation

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:01 PM

Ladies and gents...

The participants of this thread have seen the action I have been forced to take because of rudeness here. It is up to you whether or not those actions need to be taken again.

Please be polite.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:02 PM

That is the most idiotic statement ever.. It's from SB Nation. Yes it says "Pacific Takes, a Pac-12 community", but also speaking on behalf of SB Nation.. Please, just grab a beer and chill out.
Please get the facts right.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SB_Nation


Not what I referred to.
Be civil.
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