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#741 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:53 AM

And what does this have to do with Pac12 Networks?


You must not have actually read the post.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:00 AM

Enjoy your HD lite, fewer HD channels, and constant/lengthy retrans disputes. Dish Network has been scrounging for the leftovers for 16 years and that shows no signs of changing. I simply prefer the premier provider over the cheap knock off.


^^^^^^^^ what does this have to do with the Pac12?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:03 AM

AGAIN, what does this have to do with the Pac12?


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So, you don't have any. Got it. You could have said it was a baseless assumption from the beginning and saved yourself some time. Let me know when enough people leave that it actually matters. With 20+ million customers...good luck. Enjoy your HD lite, fewer HD channels, and constant/lengthy retrans disputes. Dish Network has been scrounging for the leftovers for 16 years and that shows no signs of changing. I simply prefer the premier provider over the cheap knock off.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:11 AM

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Please explain to me what HD light, carriage disputes etc have to do with Pac12 Networks... You're not answering the question... Despite your plea for proof of subscriber attrition, the rant about superiority does nothing to help the thread in a civil discourse about PAC12 networks..

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:40 AM

Dennis Dobbs (National college football writer for CBSSports.com) tweets:
"Where do you stand with DIRECTV P12N asked. I'm told DIRECTV wasn't going to do a deal with Dish signage at all the P12 venues."
And another tweet by Bryan Fischer (Senior correspondent for Pac-12 Digital):
"PAC12 Network deal with DIRECTV could be next week...or a few years away.- (PAC 12 Net GM) Lydia Murphy-Stevens."
It appears that D* hasn't been real honest as to their REAL objection to carrying the PAC-12 Net. I wouldn't hold my breath that there will ever be a deal. And the sad thing is that it could have been D* signage at all the venues.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:57 PM

Please explain to me what HD light, carriage disputes etc have to do with Pac12 Networks... You're not answering the question... Despite your plea for proof of subscriber attrition, the rant about superiority does nothing to help the thread in a civil discourse about PAC12 networks..


It's what he always says about Dish. Just ignore him.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:39 PM

It's what he always says about Dish. Just ignore him.


It continues to be correct as Dish is a second tier service.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

So if Dish was the only company to carry the stations you wanted, then what? For us it happens to be the pac 12 network. Although I have both services.

It continues to be correct as Dish is a second tier service.



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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:31 PM

It continues to be correct as Dish is a second tier service.


Not sure why you are always allowed to litter these threads without some moderation. This is about Pac-12, not who is the better service provider. Since you pronounce yourself as a Hoosier fan, you most likely are not upset at all for the lack of the Pac 12 because the Big 10 is right there on 610.

So, how about giving some sympathy for people who are missing some of their favorite teams instead of pounding away at the same points that you litter most every thread with.

We missed several UofA football games this season. How many Hoosier games did you not have available?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:50 PM

It continues to be correct as Dish is a second tier service.


By your extreme, minority definition. I mean, really. For the less than 1% who somehow notice your so-called "HD-Lite", possibly. Or you've ninja-tin-foil-hatted yourself into believing there's a significant difference, which is always a possibility...but the prudent route is to stop trolling people. There's no "winner" based on what satellite service you subscribe to. None.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:12 PM

So, you don't have any. Got it. You could have said it was a baseless assumption from the beginning and saved yourself some time. Let me know when enough people leave that it actually matters. With 20+ million customers...good luck. Enjoy your HD lite, fewer HD channels, and constant/lengthy retrans disputes. Dish Network has been scrounging for the leftovers for 16 years and that shows no signs of changing. I simply prefer the premier provider over the cheap knock off.


Oh really, somehow you have latched onto that there is no way that even 35 people could have switched to Dish Network because of the Pac 12 Network. Seriously, I personally know nine people besides myself, not to mention all of the folks here, which is far greater than 35.

My installer back in early October said he was working mandatory overtime every day to cover new installs, they had the same staff size for several years and have not added, but the orders keep coming in. Said they were working 6 12 hr days a week. Good money he said, but it was tiring. Most were interested in the Hopper and secondarily Pac 12 Network.

"HD lite?" I've heard both providers offer many channels in a compressed format. I do not know, but frankly I have no observed any difference.

"Constant/Retrans Disputes?" Are there some? Yes, but constant, not at all. Read the news - it's Directv that seems to have having the most trouble right now.

Fewer HD? Maybe, but for what most of us watch it's hardly less. I am not even sure that this is true anyway, but if it is, then so what if I don't watch those channels? Some things matter in life and beyond ESPU I cannot find anything that I watch not in HD.

We can go on and on, but for 98% of folks Dish does just fine...again, have fun paying more for less!

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

It continues to be correct as Dish is a second tier service.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:56 PM

Hey guys ... let's stick with PAC-12 discussion here. DirecTV vs DISH will not be solved in this thread.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:05 AM

We missed several UofA football games this season. How many Hoosier games did you not have available?


Well, considering the sad state of Hoosier football, hopefully for his sake most of their games were NOT available this year! ;)


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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:51 AM

As much as I want the Pac-12 Network, I'm simply unable to give up my NFL ST because one game was exclusive. I'm a Duck fan, but to switch for one game just didn't make any sense for me. Anyway, are there any updates as to why the deal is not done? Other than the official nonsense that Scott and DTV have released. Plus, I just don't see why DTV would even worry about carrying the channel until next season, with the Pac 12 not being a strong basketball conference.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:12 AM

with the Pac 12 not being a strong basketball conference.


Isn't that sad?? What happened?? The Mountain West BB is stronger than the Pac12. Oh well...

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:22 AM

As much as I want the Pac-12 Network, I'm simply unable to give up my NFL ST because one game was exclusive. I'm a Duck fan, but to switch for one game just didn't make any sense for me. Anyway, are there any updates as to why the deal is not done? Other than the official nonsense that Scott and DTV have released. Plus, I just don't see why DTV would even worry about carrying the channel until next season, with the Pac 12 not being a strong basketball conference.



As I wrote Thursday:
Dennis Dobbs (National college football writer for CBSSports.com) tweets:
"Where do you stand with DIRECTV P12N asked. I'm told DIRECTV wasn't going to do a deal with Dish signage at all the P12 venues."
And another tweet by Bryan Fischer (Senior correspondent for Pac-12 Digital):
"PAC12 Network deal with DIRECTV could be next week...or a few years away.- (PAC 12 Net GM) Lydia Murphy-Stevens."
It appears that D* hasn't been real honest as to their REAL objection to carrying the PAC-12 Net. I wouldn't hold my breath that there will ever be a deal. And the sad thing is that it could have been D* signage at all the venues.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 11:47 PM

TV technical union strikes against Pac-12 Networks

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:35 AM

If it was tweeted, it must be true.

Give me a break! You really think it's due to signage in some arenas? If so, precious little pro sports would be televised if that were the attitude of broadcasters and/or carriers.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:53 AM

I will probably vote partly with my wallet this spring and cancel MLB EI for mlb.tv and when they ask why say, "You don't carry the Pac-12 Network, so I'm cutting back on spending with you until such time as I cut back all my spending with you." The latter half is in the TBD category, but in the meantime, I can trim programming a few times to make the point as we take services above and beyond the basic package and I can deliver that message several times.




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