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#101 OFFLINE   Carl Spock

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:04 PM

The first 4-5 settled a year ago and more as the year went along.

I'd want to be the last one to settle. The others would establish the maximum price I would have to pay. I'd also look at the terms of everyone else's deal in crafting my own.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:34 PM

I'd want to be the last one to settle. The others would establish the maximum price I would have to pay. I'd also look at the terms of everyone else's deal in crafting my own.


Well it's time to settle then. There is only 3-4 providers left to sign including Directv.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 03:50 PM

I'm sure DirecTV cares as little for your advice in negotiating as it does for mine.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:09 PM

This was the deal in place before in went south..
https://twitter.com/...430214512422912

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:15 PM

Well since this thread has been relegated to the back bench, I'll post this link here:

http://blogs.mercury...letter-to-fans/

San Jose Merc's blogger Jon Wilner's weekly update as to the status of the PAC-12 Net on D*. It includes a letter from the PAC-12 to us, the D* subs, and it isn't encouraging.


It's more grim than that.... http://www.vcstar.co...v-cant-reach-a/

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:39 PM

It's more grim than that.... http://www.vcstar.co...v-cant-reach-a/


DirecTV's stance is absolutely ridiculous. Why would I want to pay for a stand-alone-package?
Oceanic Time Warner in Hawaii is including all seven channels in its $5.99 sports pack, offering the main channel in HD and the regional channels in SD.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:43 PM

DirecTV's stance is absolutely ridiculous. Why would I want to pay for a stand-alone-package?
Oceanic Time Warner in Hawaii is including all seven channels in its $5.99 sports pack, offering the main channel in HD and the regional channels in SD.


The Directv of old was never like this...

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:47 PM

The Directv of old was never like this...


Like what? A provider with sound business savvy? Content fees are up across the board. The PAC-12 Network folks are asking for more than DirecTV is willing to pay. They acting like an ESPN when they are simply an unproven upstart with limited content.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:51 PM

Like what? A provider with sound business savvy? Content fees are up across the board. The PAC-12 Network folks are asking for more than DirecTV is willing to pay. They acting like an ESPN when they are simply an unproven upstart with limited content.


If that's the case, (which I doubt), then what happened to the $14.99 package that was supposed to get done in August?
A lot of assumptions have been made, so all we can do is see what the other providers are charging and come to our own conclusion. I hardly think Time Warner could add it to its sports pack without raising the fee, if the PAC-12 was asking an ESPN like fee of $3 a sub.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:52 PM

Like what? A provider with sound business savvy? Content fees are up across the board. The PAC-12 Network folks are asking for more than DirecTV is willing to pay. They acting like an ESPN when they are simply an unproven upstart with limited content.


Stop being all pro Directv.. They were a sports leader.. When the NFL contract expires, I wonder if you'll be blowing the same horn.. They are not acting like ESPN, but how can they say yes to an ALA CARTE deal? Big10 was unproven and Directv gave them a shot... Why not Pac12?

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:55 PM

It isn't even stand alone. They want to treat it like time warner does Hawaii games in Hawaii. A ppv type model.

DirecTV's stance is absolutely ridiculous. Why would I want to pay for a stand-alone-package?
Oceanic Time Warner in Hawaii is including all seven channels in its $5.99 sports pack, offering the main channel in HD and the regional channels in SD.



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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:58 PM

It isn't even stand alone. They want to treat it like time warner does Hawaii games in Hawaii. A ppv type model.


That's even worse. At least you can watch the Rainbow game replay the next day for free.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:58 PM

If that's the case, (which I doubt), then what happened to the $14.99 package that was supposed to get done in August?
A lot of assumptions have been made, so all we can do is see what the other providers are charging and come to our own conclusion. I hardly think Time Warner could add it to its sports pack without raising the fee, if the PAC-12 was asking an ESPN like fee of $3 a sub.


Where are you getting $14.99 from?
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:00 PM

Where are you getting $14.99 from?


originally thought to be worked out.. https://twitter.com/...430214512422912

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:02 PM

Where are you getting $14.99 from?


Here:
https://twitter.com/....30214512422912

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:03 PM

Where are you getting $14.99 from?


That was one of they rumors that Directv wanted early in negotiations with the Pac 12 Network. It was from some usual reliable sources. I'm not sure if it was true but the way Directv is acting I wouldn't doubt it. It was rumored a Pac 12 Network package only for $14.99. I knew the Pac 12 wasn't going to go for that. Only the diehard Pac 12 fans like myself would buying that package.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:04 PM

Stop being all pro Directv.. They were a sports leader.. When the NFL contract expires, I wonder if you'll be blowing the same horn.


How exactly are they not the sports leader now? This is a single channel. They have an incredible number of sports channels and sports packages compared to every other provider. Sunday Ticket? Not going anywhere.

Big10 was unproven and Directv gave them a shot... Why not Pac12?


...after four years of negotiations.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:05 PM

That was one of they rumors that Directv wanted early in negotiations with the Pac 12 Network. It was from some usual reliable sources. I'm not sure if it was true but the way Directv is acting I wouldn't doubt it. It was rumored a Pac 12 Network package only for $14.99. I knew the Pac 12 wasn't going to go for that. Only the diehard Pac 12 fans like myself would buying that package.


Then that's on the PAC-12 Network for failing to come to terms.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:12 PM

Then that's on the PAC-12 Network for failing to come to terms.


No it isn't. It is in you bias view that the Pac 12 should take any package that Directv can shove down their ***. Directv is in the wrong and just because you can't or won't see it and keep repeating things that are not true doesn't make Directv right. Like I said before it is Directv right to not carry the Network but it is also the Pac 12 Network right to only accept something that will make money. I'm done posting in this topic. It doesn't do any good going around and around when people don't want to listen or make stuff up.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:15 PM

It is starting to look more and more like directv doesn't want to come to terms and that is also what I'm hearing from those affiliated with them too.

Then that's on the PAC-12 Network for failing to come to terms.






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