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HR34 disk space issue. Unable to record anything! Help!


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#151 OFFLINE   veryoldschool

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:25 AM

THANK YOU!!! interesting how this thread is divided into people who totally get it and others who don't. They just say watch it or delete it or buy a new hard drive or let DirecTV do anything they want to you now that they have your money. Unbelievable. At least a few get what's going on here.

I think most "got it".
What has been the ongoing problem is "what to do about it".
You asked for help, and got some, but don't/haven't wanted to do anything.
DirecTV most likely won't change their software, so it's either adapt to it or not.
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#152 OFFLINE   CCarncross

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:40 AM

I think most "got it".
What has been the ongoing problem is "what to do about it".
You asked for help, and got some, but don't/haven't wanted to do anything.
DirecTV most likely won't change their software, so it's either adapt to it or not.


+100@VOS

Direct DVR's have always exhibited interesting behavior to say the least when HDD's were run at or near capacity. You have a few choices about what you can do, choose one and move on.....ranting and raving is not going to fix anything, and guaranteed it will just further alienate you on this forum.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:42 AM

It seems like having a full hard drive is one thing but is that connected to showing all the To-Do programs as currently recording? BTW, I'm not having this problem.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:46 AM

It seems like having a full hard drive is one thing but is that connected to showing all the To-Do programs as currently recording? BTW, I'm not having this problem.

It's only "connected" by being in the software. The To-Do programs still work the same as before, but now have the "nag" messages, which have nothing to do with the space issue.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:46 AM

Do they only help after being jackasses to you? is that how it works. They should be proud then.


OK, that's enough. Most of us are here to help, not hinder. Nobody has done anything but try to explain what's going on, just because you're frustrated doesn't give you the right to demean anyone.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 10:50 AM

OK, that's enough. Most of us are here to help, not hinder. Nobody has done anything but try to explain what's going on, just because you're frustrated doesn't give you the right to demean anyone.

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You obviously haven't been paying attention in this thread then. A few helped and I thanked them, others were exactly as I described.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:00 AM

OK, that's enough. Most of us are here to help, not hinder. Nobody has done anything but try to explain what's going on, just because you're frustrated doesn't give you the right to demean anyone.


Clearly there were some pre-conceived notions on who's posts to even bother with and that's too bad. He was given some great advice but chose to ignore it, or even slam it, based on who posted it.

Did they take space from us? yes
Will we get it back? VERY doubtful
Does it suck? Sure
Were viable alternatives given to the OP? Yes
Should we move on? Absolutely
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 11:18 AM

Clearly there were some pre-conceived notions on who's posts to even bother with and that's too bad. He was given some great advice but chose to ignore it, or even slam it, based on who posted it.

Did they take space from us? yes
Will we get it back? VERY doubtful
Does it suck? Sure
Were viable alternatives given to the OP? Yes
Should we move on? Absolutely


I'm done.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 12:43 PM

Do they only help after being jackasses to you? is that how it works. They should be proud then.


You obviously haven't been paying attention in this thread then. A few helped and I thanked them, others were exactly as I described.


I assume that since I didn't join the urination contest I fall into the latter group.

Folks, let's focus on the topic at hand and not on each other. There has already been one warning posted in this thread... the next time I will have no choice but to close it.


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Posted 28 September 2012 - 12:45 PM

I'm saddened it's come to this.

People need to respect each other more.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:01 PM

I'm saddened it's come to this.

People need to respect each other more.

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Brother, This should be the subject of an entire thread....Not only on these forums, but on the highway, in stores, and in general....

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:18 PM

Yes, there is a bug with deleting future programs, where it thinks it is a current recording, and even asks you if you want to keep it.
I don't see any signs that this is taking up any space [these future recordings].
This is very strange. If you still have 0%, how do you know you've deleted 40%?
The 20 hours I posted earlier were HD hours, so deleting SD recordings would require a lot more to equal the same space.


Simple. I counted. I deleted approx. 40 hours of HD programming. If DT is now using 60% for their new software, it is a problem.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:20 PM

One thing is for sure, that update had no business going out the door when it did.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:37 PM

THANK YOU!!! interesting how this thread is divided into people who totally get it and others who don't. They just say watch it or delete it or buy a new hard drive or let DirecTV do anything they want to you now that they have your money. Unbelievable. At least a few get what's going on here.


You are correct. Many are not getting it. I'll repeat. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU DELETE, THERE IS NO AVAILABLE SPACE!!! HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DELETING OR USING ALL 200 HOURS, ETC. I should have 60% available. I highly doubt DT is using 60% of space for the "Genie". There is a problem with the software that is causing the DVR to think there is no space available. Why, I don't think anyone knows at this point. If someone knows how to fix it, I'd love the answer, as that is why I posted in the first place.

I don't get the controversy about deleting programs. If I was out of town a lot in the past few months and recording a lot, so what? This receiver is advertised as 200 hours of HD, minus a few percent for DT's use. So, if I filled it to 95%, it should work as if I filled it to 60%. I agree these receivers are not for archiving as this is the 2nd time in a year I've had a problem. I purchased the HR 34 in Feb due to another year and a half old DVR's hard drive failing. So, I certainly don't trust it to keep something that I really want to save. I'm still waiting (3 days now) for a result from DT, with no answers. When I get one, I'll post it.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:58 PM

Simple. I counted. I deleted approx. 40 hours of HD programming. If DT is now using 60% for their new software, it is a problem.

If you've deleted 40 hours of HD programing, you've got other problems going on.
This may be unique your your DVR, as it hasn't been seen on others.
The 10% loss/change of free space doesn't account for what you're seeing.

BTW your math seems a bit off too. 40 hrs would only equal 20%.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:10 PM

You are correct. Many are not getting it. I'll repeat. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU DELETE, THERE IS NO AVAILABLE SPACE!!! HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DELETING OR USING ALL 200 HOURS, ETC. I should have 60% available. << Snipped bits out >>

I'm still waiting (3 days now) for a result from DT, with no answers. When I get one, I'll post it.


You have a ping earlier in the thread.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:13 PM

If you've deleted 40 hours of HD programing, you've got other problems going on.
This may be unique your your DVR, as it hasn't been seen on others.
The 10% loss/change of free space doesn't account for what you're seeing.

BTW your math seems a bit off too. 40 hrs would only equal 20%.


It could be a lot less, too, as there's large variation in MB's required for an hour long program.

I do wish he'd answer my questions. I see a number of folks are trying to help, too.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:19 PM

Simple. I counted. I deleted approx. 40 hours of HD programming. If DT is now using 60% for their new software, it is a problem.


So if I delete all my recordings I wouldn't be at 100%?

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:09 PM

JACKIEGAGA, you are always at 100% :)
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:11 PM

If you've deleted 40 hours of HD programing, you've got other problems going on.
This may be unique your your DVR, as it hasn't been seen on others.
The 10% loss/change of free space doesn't account for what you're seeing.

BTW your math seems a bit off too. 40 hrs would only equal 20%.


Sorry, meant 40%

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:11 PM

JACKIEGAGA, you are always at 100% :)



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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:16 PM

JACKIEGAGA, you are always at 100% :)

:lol:

:rolling:

Then again, I normally don't get below 80% here either, because I delete stuff as I view it most of the time.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:24 PM

:rolling:

Then again, I normally don't get below 80% here either, because I delete stuff as I view it most of the time.


The same here.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:26 PM

I highly doubt DT is using 60% of space for the "Genie".


Their partition, which includes PPV and Genie recordings plus other "stuff" I'm sure, is based on total drive space.

I know this from trying different drive sizes:

2TB drive, they get 17.86G
3TB drive, they get 27.94G
6TB array, they get 55.89G
9TB array, they get 83.83G
12TB array, they get 95.68G

They get less than 1%. (Yeah, I said 10% previously, I was wrong)
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:28 PM

:rolling:

Then again, I normally don't get below 80% here either, because I delete stuff as I view it most of the time.


I haven't gone below 97% with 3 weeks worth of heavy usage yet. :lol:

I haven't counted how many hours lately...
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