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DISH Launches dishNET Broadband


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#61 OFFLINE   jsk

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:54 PM

Maybe they wouldn't count BB against your quota?
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:13 AM

slim chance ... all traffic is counting by bytes, not a content

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:46 AM

slim chance ... all traffic is counting by bytes, not a content


Also I would be surprised if anti-trust issues weren't in play.

IF Dish didn't count bandwidth for streaming from Blockbuster service... but did count bandwidth from Netflix, for example... that would put Netflix at a competitive disadvantage and probably bring on a lawsuit against Dish.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:56 AM

Comcast is doing this with there On Demand app on the Xbox 360; it doesn't count toward the monthly bandwidth cap. Originally they said the reasoning was because the bytes go out over there Private IP Network and never reach the Public Internet, but they were quick to remove that wording from there Official FAQs on there site shortly after it sparked public outcry. http://gigaom.com/vi...box-faq-update/

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:35 AM

Indeed -- I was thinking the same thing. They should have content related to Dish (including the TV Everywhere stuff) not count against the cap but, unfortunately, it DOES count. And, yes, to answer your question, you would hit the cap very quickly on the default plan watching just a movie or two.

On a side note concerning content... When I had HughesNet before, if I recall, they eventually had it for a while where downloads from Windows Update did not count against your cap. This was back when the cap was like 169MB per month -- and, basically, just getting the Windows Updates for the week would go beyond your monthly cap! So, they started not counting it.

So, clearly, it is technically feasible to do content-based (or, at least, IP/server-based) counting (or lack thereof). Therefore, it likely wouldn't be too difficult to NOT count certain steaming media if they WANTED to.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:02 AM

I ask because we're about ready to dump our land line and the internet package from our local phone company and will need something else for net service


Don't know your reasons or finances, but if you've had any form of wired internet service (other than dial-up), you will not be happy with satellite.

Also I would be surprised if anti-trust issues weren't in play.

IF Dish didn't count bandwidth for streaming from Blockbuster service... but did count bandwidth from Netflix, for example... that would put Netflix at a competitive disadvantage and probably bring on a lawsuit against Dish.


Isn't that the whole issue behind net neutrality?
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

Isn't that the whole issue behind net neutrality?


As I understand it, that is at least a big part of the debate... When your provider makes it more attractive to use their services than other internet services, it creates a problem with fair competition.

In theory you're not supposed to be able to do such things, but companies do until they don't :)

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:03 AM

I'm finally able to ditch Hughesnet. My 2 years is up. It is awful.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 05:56 AM

Net Neutrality says, for example, that Comcast can't say that traffic to Netflix would count against your bandwidth cap and traffic to their On Demand site would not. It says that Time Warner can't slow down your speeds when going to Amazon Video instead of signing up for their cable service.

Consider if the phone company (way back when) said "You can call a Ford dealership with perfect clarity but calls to Chrysler will be of limited length and reduced bandwith (and cost more)".

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:28 AM

If I recall correctly, dish does not own Hughes, Echostar does. Also, I know when wildblue originally came out dish owned a partial stake, but not sure if they still do now. I believe dish helped found wildblue.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:42 PM

As to the pricing of dishNET sevice. The commercials are touting plans starting at $39.99mo for internet service when bundled with your DISH video service. There is currently no way to get dishNET service for the advertised rate of 39.99mo. The $10mo Equipment Fee is mandatory (equip. not included and no purchase option).

At least with DISH's video service, there has allways been a setup that would allow a customer to receive service at the advertised price point (1st receiver included in package price). The dishNET commercials come off as very deceptive in this regard.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:20 PM

As to the pricing of dishNET sevice. The commercials are touting plans starting at $39.99mo for internet service when bundled with your DISH video service. There is currently no way to get dishNET service for the advertised rate of 39.99mo. The $10mo Equipment Fee is mandatory (equip. not included and no purchase option).

At least with DISH's video service, there has allways been a setup that would allow a customer to receive service at the advertised price point (1st receiver included in package price). The dishNET commercials come off as very deceptive in this regard.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:16 PM

I would be interested in hearing about experiences with VOIP through any of the satellite providers. I am currently using HughesNet. I am off the grid and until recently could get cell coverage ( 90% of the time) with a Yagi antenna and booster. For some reason the cell coverage is not working or is very random so I'm looking for options. Any help or recommendations would be much appreciated!

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:50 AM

I thought it was Hughesnet rebranded




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