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#41 OFFLINE   Henry

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 02:22 PM

However Holmes did say
"Elementary" and "... my dear Watson" in "The Crooked Man". William Gillette first uttered the now famous quote in the play he wrote and starred in as Sherlock Holmes.


Yes he did, BP, but Conan Doyle never wrote it as such. I'm thinking that a radio series some decades ago (the 30s?) planted the catchy version that we mistakenly attribute to him today.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 04:47 PM

Yes he did, BP, but Conan Doyle never wrote it as such. I'm thinking that a radio series some decades ago (the 30s?) planted the catchy version that we mistakenly attribute to him today.


Consulting my box set "The Annotated Sherlock Holmes" by William S. Baring-Gould, the Actor William Gillette uttered the line "Oh, this is elementary, my dear Watson in the 1899 play "Sherlock Holmes" in which he wrote and starred in.
In the 1929 movie "The Return of Sherlock Holmes" the line "Elementary, my dear Watson, elementary" was said. Of course there are the few times a variation of these lines appeared in the many Basil Rathbone film interpretations.
So yes the "Elementary, my dear Watson" did not appear in the canon. Neither did Holmes wear the famous "Deerstalker" even though Sidney Paget did illustrate Holmes wearing one in "Silver Blaze", Watson only describes it as his (Sherlock's) "...ear-flapped travelling-cap...". And so the myths continue.
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:10 PM

Btw, in the canon Holmes never smoked a Calabash pipe that is often associated with him. Again it was William Gillette who created that connection. Gillette wanted a pipe which would not interfere with the audience from viewing his face on stage. In the canon Holmes only smoked three types of pipes, none of these were Calabash.
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:09 AM

Consulting my box set "The Annotated Sherlock Holmes" by William S. Baring-Gould, the Actor William Gillette uttered the line "Oh, this is elementary, my dear Watson in the 1899 play "Sherlock Holmes" in which he wrote and starred in.
In the 1929 movie "The Return of Sherlock Holmes" the line "Elementary, my dear Watson, elementary" was said. Of course there are the few times a variation of these lines appeared in the many Basil Rathbone film interpretations.
So yes the "Elementary, my dear Watson" did not appear in the canon. Neither did Holmes wear the famous "Deerstalker" even though Sidney Paget did illustrate Holmes wearing one in "Silver Blaze", Watson only describes it as his (Sherlock's) "...ear-flapped travelling-cap...". And so the myths continue.


Yes, I agree with that. Perhaps I should have been clearer in that it didn't become the catch phrase it is today until the radio series planted it (sheer repetition, no doubt) into our heads.
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 01:14 PM

Anybody watch last week's episode with the bomb? There were two things that bothered me about the plot:

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I think Johnny Lee Miller and Lucy Lui are developing a nice rhythm on the show, I just wish the writing was better. None of the plots have surprised me and the twists are all pretty obvious.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:56 PM

The Asian gambling episode was full of obvious holes and things Holmes missed. Embarrassing.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

Don't forget to pad the after the Super Bowl episode!
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:45 PM

And add even more time because of the power interruption.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:45 PM

Did what I could remotely. Why can't we do a manual recording with DVR scheduler? Sigh...

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:14 AM

I can't believe they still aired it on the east coast at that late hour. I added 90 minutes. I hope I got it all.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:19 AM

I added 4 hours to Elementary because I was watching The Walking Dead marathon and wouldn't know when the SB would end.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:45 AM

I can't believe they still aired it on the east coast at that late hour. I added 90 minutes. I hope I got it all.


It will be very close. CBS VOD has Elementary, but delayed by one week. Not sure what CBS.com has.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:39 PM

Elementary started 1:10 late, so my 1.5 pad caught it all.

And it was a pretty good episode to boot!
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:40 PM

Elementary started 1:10 late, so my 1.5 pad caught it all.

And it was a pretty good episode to boot!

+1 to both.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:45 PM

Can't believe they started the episode here at 10:10pm (prime time here is 7-10). That's crazy.

Luckily I padded the game by several hours so was able to watch it at the end of my SB recording.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:49 PM

Can't believe they started the episode here at 10:10pm (prime time here is 7-10). That's crazy.

How about starting it after 11PM in NY! :nono2: I hope they re-air it in this time zone, for DVR-less fans of the show. Or folks who didn't pad it properly.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:19 AM

I forgot to pad Elementary. I streamed from CBS last night to my Sony lap top and used Push2TV to my 60". PQ went from very good to tolerable and back again several times but I didn't have to skip commercials. :lol: It's okay on the rare occasions I miss something.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:05 PM

Has anyone checked to see if they are going to rerun that episode from Sunday?

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:35 PM

Has anyone checked to see if they are going to rerun that episode from Sunday?


The full episode is on cbs.com.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:00 PM

Also, CBS on demand (on DirecTV) has the 1/31 episode available, along with the 3 before it. I assume they'll have the 2/3 episode up there in a day or so.
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