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#326 OFFLINE   Snickering Hound

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:34 PM

Nope.

 

http://blog.chron.co...ree-view-offer/

 

DirecTV refuses CSN Houston’s free view offer

 

A DirecTV spokesman said today the satellite service will not accept Comcast SportsNet Houston’s offer to air the channel free of charge through mid-December.

 

“We’d be happy to make the channel available to Rockets fans for the long term, not just 45 days, if CSN Houston would agree to offer the channel to those customers who want to pay for it, or make it more reasonable for all of our customers to receive,” a spokesman said.

 

“Showing the channel then taking it down after the free-trial period would only cause frustration for fans and do nothing to help us reach an agreement with the network’s owners.”

 

DirecTV is the first carrier to respond directly to CSN Houston’s offer to allow all carriers access to the Rockets-Astros-Comcast-owned channel through Dec. 15, a period that includes more than 20 Rockets games.

 

CSN Houston made a similar offer last spring during Astros season, but most satellite, telco and cable providers allowed the free view to expire without even commenting on whether they would accept the offer.

 

Suddenlink said it was willing to accept, but only if it could air the channel in the Houston area and not across CSN Houston’s five-state coverage area.

 

DirecTV’s statement about making CSN Houston available “to those customers who want to pay for it” means that it would be willing to offer the channel as part of a sports tier but not as part of its expanded basic service across Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas and New Mexico. Practically every regional sports network that shows major league baseball, basketball and hockey games is available in its home market on expanded basic, including DirecTV’s Root Sports channels in Denver, Pittsburgh and Seattle.



#327 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:10 PM

Nope.

 

 

DirecTV’s statement about making CSN Houston available “to those customers who want to pay for it” means that it would be willing to offer the channel as part of a sports tier but not as part of its expanded basic service across Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas and New Mexico. Practically every regional sports network that shows major league baseball, basketball and hockey games is available in its home market on expanded basic, including DirecTV’s Root Sports channels in Denver, Pittsburgh and Seattle.

or directv wants in sports pack for the outer rings also directv had a deal ready to go and the Astros said no to it.


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Posted 02 November 2013 - 08:21 AM

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 09:23 AM

Someone help me understand the NBA blackout rules here.  I see others talking about how the NBATV games this preseason were blacked out....yet they were not for me, and as a matter of fact the 2 games this season that have been on the NBA League Pass so far this year have not been blacked out either.  I live in the Richmond/Rosenberg area.  Now that I think about it, all the games on NBATV last year were not blacked out either.  Is this because I am not directly in Houston, or am I just getting something I am not supposed to?



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 09:32 AM

"Those customers who want pay for it" is the same line of garbage D* has used to keep the PAC12 Net off of its system. I thought I heard Joe Buck say during the World Series that D* was still the leader in Sports programming. Not!!

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 10:40 AM

"Those customers who want pay for it" is the same line of garbage D* has used to keep the PAC12 Net off of its system. I thought I heard Joe Buck say during the World Series that D* was still the leader in Sports programming. Not!!


Solely your opinion. I hope that DTV holds the line on money hungry sports RSN's such as pac12 and Comcrap Sports Houston. I miss not watching the Rockets but somebody has to hold the line on increasing costs. As far as the pac12, if they have a decent match up, it'll show up on ESPN after I'm asleep; other than that, I'm not too interested in west coast games.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:15 PM

D* is using the CSN Houston feed for the Rockets @ Trail Blazers game tonight. Channel 762-1 if you are out of market for both teams (since CSN-NW & Houston are not on D* in market) and subscribe to LP.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 12:51 AM

I believe they have to supply the feed because if the nba rules. But like you said that only works for out if market league pass subs.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:34 PM

The saga continues. Crane now suing Drayton for over selling the network.

Crane should have done his due diligence. Maybe I'll get lucky and get on the jury.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:50 PM

However, a statement filed in federal bankruptcy court where the CSN Houston team is currently embroiled in an involuntary bankruptcy proceedings reveals just what the lawsuit is about.

Seems the Astros are suing Drayton McLane for "causes of action for fraud as to McLane Champions, LLC and R. Drayton McLane Jr.; negligent misrepresentation as to all Defendants; breach of contract anddeclaratory judgment as to McLane Champions, LLC; and civil conspiracy as to all Defendants,relating to and in connection with the purchase of Houston McLane Company, LLC and itsequity interests by Jim Crane and the current ownership group in 2011."

Ho. Lee. Crap.

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 03:10 PM

Today's news, http://www.chron.com...mid-5205441.php


A federal judge Tuesday placed the parent company of Comcast SportsNet Houston under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, keeping the regional sports network on the air in hopes that reorganization can break the 16-month-old logjam that has limited TV exposure for the Astros and Rockets.

 

The ruling, however, offers no immediate relief to viewers who do not have access to the channel as the NBA season nears the All-Star break and the Astros are less than a month away from their first exhibition game of 2014.

 

U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Marvin Isgur's order came at the conclusion of a daylong hearing during which attorneys for Comcast and the Rockets asked that the case remain under bankruptcy court jurisdiction and the Astros asked that it be dismissed.

 

Dismissal would have resulted in the almost certain demise of the 16-month-old network owned by the Astros, Rockets and Comcast through a limited partnership known as Houston Regional Sports Network. Isgur's order, however, assures that it will remain in operation while the three network partners work on a reorganization plan.

 

CSN Houston has been unable to arrange deals with such major carriers as DirecTV, Dish Network, AT&T U-verse and Suddenlink and is available in no more than 40 percent of the area's 2.2 million TV households. With exposure limited to only the local Comcast cable system and a few smaller systems, viewership has plummeted for Astros and Rockets games. An Astros game last September, in fact, registered zero viewers, according to the Nielsen Co.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:51 AM

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 04:20 PM

The latest news is apparently Comcast wants nothing to do with the channel anymore.



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 05:07 PM

The latest news is apparently Comcast wants nothing to do with the channel anymore.

now twc dodgers needs to die as well.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:22 PM

Today's news, http://www.chron.com...mid-5205441.php


So is this the beginning of the end? Has the proliferation of RSNs in expanded basic peaked?


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:41 PM

The latest news is apparently Comcast wants nothing to do with the channel anymore.

http://blog.chron.co...bankruptcy-bid/


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:46 PM

So is this the beginning of the end? Has the proliferation of RSNs in expanded basic peaked?


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maybe the ones the have MLB teams with big team zones.

 

I think that the MLB cutting team zones down may save dish and direct a lot.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 06:55 AM

I wonder if Fox or Root sports could make a bid for this?

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 07:54 AM

 

So help me to understand this.  Comcast, the Astros and the Rockets decide to create a sports network that was to benefit the sports teams AND Comcast.  Comcast isn't happy that things aren't going their way and the ratings suck (because, BTW, they don't allow fair access of the signal to satellite and other cable providers).  Now, they throw a hissy fit, and say they won't follow through and bail their own created network out of bankruptcy, when their company has plenty money to correct this mistake. 

 

I'm not a huge Astros' fan, although their Appy League team is in my town (Greeneville, TN).  If I was an Astros' fan, however, I would be FURIOUS with Comcrap for their stunts.  Comcrap created a sports network in Houston to hinder competition, refused to fairly negotiate carriage agreements with other service providers, and then wondered why their network fails.  To top it off, they just bail out and leave Houston fans out to dry, claiming bankruptcy, when in reality it's just Comcrap not wanting to find a solution for the carriage issues and protect their interest in the Houston market because their product sucks and they are afraid of competition.

 

Comcrap is the worst corporation in America today bar none.  If I was the Astros and the Rockets, I would sue Comcrap for billions and give Comcrap a TRUE reason to file for bankruptcy!


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 08:51 AM

So help me to understand this.  Comcast, the Astros and the Rockets decide to create a sports network that was to benefit the sports teams AND Comcast.  Comcast isn't happy that things aren't going their way and the ratings suck (because, BTW, they don't allow fair access of the signal to satellite and other cable providers).  Now, they throw a hissy fit, and say they won't follow through and bail their own created network out of bankruptcy, when their company has plenty money to correct this mistake. 

 

To be fair to Comcast, it was the Astros that blocked several potential deals for carriage. It is a long sordid story. Comcast is not blameless but they are not the biggest villain in this story, either.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:07 AM

To be fair to Comcast, it was the Astros that blocked several potential deals for carriage. It is a long sordid story. Comcast is not blameless but they are not the biggest villain in this story, either.

....but it has a happy ending for sports fans and Directv. RSNs with slim programming at ridiculous prices took a hit.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:24 PM

To be fair to Comcast, it was the Astros that blocked several potential deals for carriage. It is a long sordid story. Comcast is not blameless but they are not the biggest villain in this story, either.

 

I would agree, the Astros and Rockets aren't innocent either.  I just get frustrated that the pattern with Comcrap is that they are so restrictive on their programming.  Part of the business, I understand, but in the long run, Comcrap's rigidity hurts the consumer.



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Posted 20 March 2014 - 02:48 PM

I would agree, the Astros and Rockets aren't innocent either.  I just get frustrated that the pattern with Comcrap is that they are so restrictive on their programming.  Part of the business, I understand, but in the long run, Comcrap's rigidity hurts the consumer.

 

Agree. I think it hurts them, too, but they don't think so.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 02:49 PM

....but it has a happy ending for sports fans and Directv. RSNs with slim programming at ridiculous prices took a hit.

 

Not so sure. I think the deals were reasonable and it wasn't like they were creating a single team RSN. They were taking over a market. A signal does get sent but everyone (except the Astros) would have been happy with a reasonable price.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:03 PM

So help me to understand this. Comcast, the Astros and the Rockets decide to create a sports network that was to benefit the sports teams AND Comcast. Comcast isn't happy that things aren't going their way and the ratings suck (because, BTW, they don't allow fair access of the signal to satellite and other cable providers). Now, they throw a hissy fit, and say they won't follow through and bail their own created network out of bankruptcy, when their company has plenty money to correct this mistake.

I'm not a huge Astros' fan, although their Appy League team is in my town (Greeneville, TN). If I was an Astros' fan, however, I would be FURIOUS with Comcrap for their stunts. Comcrap created a sports network in Houston to hinder competition, refused to fairly negotiate carriage agreements with other service providers, and then wondered why their network fails. To top it off, they just bail out and leave Houston fans out to dry, claiming bankruptcy, when in reality it's just Comcrap not wanting to find a solution for the carriage issues and protect their interest in the Houston market because their product sucks and they are afraid of competition.

Comcrap is the worst corporation in America today bar none. If I was the Astros and the Rockets, I would sue Comcrap for billions and give Comcrap a TRUE reason to file for bankruptcy!


As much as I don't like comcast I actually fully agree with them on this one. If they bail the channel out then the astro owner who really created this mess in the first place will win and get his enourmous amount I money he doesn't deserve. Concast says screw you he eats it. And they don't have to partner with an idiot. This is one case where Comcast needed to have this channel everywhere and we know they agreed to terms as well as the rockets with DIRECTV at the very least and yet it was the Astros that said no. And DIRECTV is playing hardball these days so they all obviously greed to something that at least wasn't ridiculous.

For one of the very few times IMHO, just like a broken old school clock being right twice a day, comcast had to get something right eventually and maybe this is it.




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