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#351 OFFLINE   slice1900

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 12:15 AM

Hopefully the Astros will get their comeuppance as well, and whatever deal they end up with in the future pays them less than what they could have got if they hadn't vetoed the deal Comcast and the Rockets were willing to agree to. A few more blow ups like this and what most of us hope happens to the Dodgers channel will teach sports rights owners that there's going to be a limit to how greedy they can be.

 

I'm still surprised at how reasonable the reported asking price for the SEC Network is. I think they probably could have asked for at least twice as much in region, and ended up making more even if they didn't get everyone to carry them. I only hope what BTN asks isn't too crazy when that contract comes up for renewal next year or things could get ugly here in Big Ten country. Unfortunately I think it is probably easier to be greedy when renewing a channel versus starting a channel, because they know customers will complain way louder if you take away what they have versus not giving them what they never had.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 01:20 PM

Except it wasn't the current owner Jim Crane who did the CSN deal, It was the old Astros owner Drayton McLane who got paid $93 million and ran off cackling into the night.

 

I'm not a Jim Crane fan by any means but it was McLane who kicked this organization in the groin on every level.



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Posted 22 March 2014 - 09:28 PM

Yes but he also did the same thing and obviously refused to cut a deal that the others wanted otherwise this channel would have been picked up by now. He's still as much to blame as he's the one that's been fighting like crazy against the bankruptcy.

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 01:44 PM

Yes but he also did the same thing and obviously refused to cut a deal that the others wanted otherwise this channel would have been picked up by now. He's still as much to blame as he's the one that's been fighting like crazy against the bankruptcy.

I was going to say.....To my understanding, Comcast and the Rockets had a carriage agreement which DTV would have agreed to BUT it was Jim Crane and the Astros who thought their ****** team was worth more money and wouldn't go along with the deal and therefore ruined any deals with DTV, DishNet and the other cable companies


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 09:20 AM

I was going to say.....To my understanding, Comcast and the Rockets had a carriage agreement which DTV would have agreed to BUT it was Jim Crane and the Astros who thought their ****** team was worth more money and wouldn't go along with the deal and therefore ruined any deals with DTV, DishNet and the other cable companies



That was the story published locally over a year ago. Jim Crane and the Astros have been the thorn in the foot.



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:55 PM

Quite firmly in the category of, "You Just Can't Make This Stuff Up," is the following:

 

EnTouch, one of a handful of smaller cable and broadband service providers in the Houston area that have carried Comcast SportsNet Houston since its fall 2012 launch, says the network isn’t worth the price it charges distributors and has asked a federal bankruptcy judge for permission to drop it.


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Posted 28 June 2014 - 12:54 AM

I love it!

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 11:14 PM

Hopefully the Astros will get their comeuppance as well, and whatever deal they end up with in the future pays them less than what they could have got if they hadn't vetoed the deal Comcast and the Rockets were willing to agree to. A few more blow ups like this and what most of us hope happens to the Dodgers channel will teach sports rights owners that there's going to be a limit to how greedy they can be.

 

I'm still surprised at how reasonable the reported asking price for the SEC Network is. I think they probably could have asked for at least twice as much in region, and ended up making more even if they didn't get everyone to carry them. I only hope what BTN asks isn't too crazy when that contract comes up for renewal next year or things could get ugly here in Big Ten country. Unfortunately I think it is probably easier to be greedy when renewing a channel versus starting a channel, because they know customers will complain way louder if you take away what they have versus not giving them what they never had.

Will DTV try to make BTN basic in market and sports pack out of market? At least then maybe they can be like dish and have pac 12 as well.  Pac12 likey wants to be the same as BTN and on dish that is basic in market and sports pack out of it.


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Posted 30 June 2014 - 11:37 AM

Will DTV try to make BTN basic in market and sports pack out of market? At least then maybe they can be like dish and have pac 12 as well.  Pac12 likey wants to be the same as BTN and on dish that is basic in market and sports pack out of it.

 

I doubt BTN would go for it since it is now basic everywhere, but I suppose it all depends on how the numbers work out and what other providers do.


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 07:57 PM

Have the distinct feeling that things are finally going to get interesting (in a good way) very soon...

 

Report: AT&T to make bid for CSN Houston:

 

One day before a bankruptcy court hearing that could provide details regarding the future of Comcast SportsNet Houston, speculation increased today that AT&T is the most likely candidate to submit a bid for the bankrupt Astros-Rockets-Comcast television partnership...AT&T does not operate a regional sports network but is in the process of acquiring DirecTV, which owns or operates RSNs in Seattle, Pittsburgh and Denver under the Root Sports banner.


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 08:31 PM

Root Sports Houston?

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 08:32 PM

Have the distinct feeling that things are finally going to get interesting (in a good way) very soon...
 
Report: AT&T to make bid for CSN Houston:


Great. Just what we need. Another provider in the rsn business. Even if they plan to merge with directv, that isn't assured.

How about somebody not in the cable business buys/starts RSNs?
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 08:48 PM

Root Sports Houston?

So long as they get the pricing right and get the games back on the air, they could call it Sports Dung Houston for all I care. (Disclaimer: the preceding is not intended to be a direct reference to the Astros, who are currently only the third-worst team in MLB, rather than the more-customary worst team) 


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 08:53 PM

Great. Just what we need. Another provider in the rsn business. Even if they plan to merge with directv, that isn't assured.

How about somebody not in the cable business buys/starts RSNs?

To paraphrase our oh-so-beloved (at least in his mind, when he looks in the mirror) Jim Crane, go ahead and write the check. The RSNs are obviously owned by who they are for the same reason Willie Sutton robbed banks---that's where the money is.


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:46 PM

Why would someone want to buy it, rather than letting it go bankrupt and making new deals with the teams? Or do they think that the teams would somehow want more money than the CSN Houston contract would give them? That seems unlikely, given what happened to the network.


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:51 PM

Great. Just what we need. Another provider in the rsn business. Even if they plan to merge with directv, that isn't assured.

How about somebody not in the cable business buys/starts RSNs?

WGN should try starting one.


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:12 PM

Why would someone want to buy it, rather than letting it go bankrupt and making new deals with the teams? Or do they think that the teams would somehow want more money than the CSN Houston contract would give them? That seems unlikely, given what happened to the network.

You didn't read much, or any, of the thread, did you? CSN Houston was forced into Chapter 11 in February of this year. What's left of the now-nearly valueless network, including what is being bid upon by the heretofore-unnamed parties, is the current topic of discussion/interest. Regardless of the eventually outcome, new deals with the teams are an absolute given, if not a prerequisite.

 

As an aside, but still somewhat related, "For the third time in two seasons, an Astros game Wednesday on Comcast SportsNet Houston had a 0.0 Nielsen household rating." Maybe if tonyd79 and I pool our pocket change, we, too, can submit a credible bid.  :righton:


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:47 PM

Yes, indeed, kiddos, it's getting closer and closer...

 

AT&T, DirecTV to take over Comcast SportsNet Houston

 

AT&T and DirecTV Sports Networks apparently will become the sole owners of the network now known as Comcast SportsNet Houston under a plan of reorganization filed late Wednesday night with federal bankruptcy court...However, the presence of DirecTV Sports Networks as a partner in the reorganized company would lead to the conclusion that CSN Houston will become the newest Root Sports network, joining regional sports networks in Denver, Pittsburgh and Seattle owned or operated by DirecTV.

 

I still liked my name for the new network better.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:53 AM

If ATT/DTV take ownership, is it safe to say this channel will be on DTV soon?



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:22 AM

If ATT/DTV take ownership, is it safe to say this channel will be on DTV soon?

"Soon" in DIRECTV terms or "soon" in a normal individual's terms? There is a difference. ;)

 

In any event, from the recently updated report (emphasis added):

 

"In a statement Thursday morning, the companies said, 'The Houston Regional Sports Network, along with the Houston Astros and Houston Rockets, filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Houston a proposal to transfer ownership to a joint venture between DIRECTV and AT&T. Once the proposal is voted on by the creditors and approved by the court, DIRECTV and AT&T look forward to providing this great sports programming to Astros and Rockets fans throughout the region.'"

 

So, although there are still a lot of Ts to be crossed and Is to be dotted, this is definitely a very promising development for the AT&T and DIRECTV subscribers who are still hoping to be able to view a few Astro games before the season ends.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:26 AM

I hope we get it because I'm screwed during Yankees games since all of  Texas is Astros territory... EI blocks the games.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:55 AM

Well ....;

 

To borrow from the popular Maxwell Smart line in the old "Get Smart" TV series would say;

 

"Oh I see, it's the oooold hold out and then take the channel over in bankruptcy trick eh?" ... :)


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:43 PM

If ATT/DTV take ownership, is it safe to say this channel will be on DTV soon?

UNLESS COMCAST TRYS TO PROLONG IT, LOOK FOR IT IN OCTOBER.



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:23 PM

UNLESS COMCAST TRYS TO PROLONG IT, LOOK FOR IT IN OCTOBER.

Awesome.  Hope we can see the Rockets play this year on TV and the Astros next spring.



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Posted 09 October 2014 - 06:25 AM

Looks like we may finally get to see the Rockets play again (other than on TNT). 

 

http://blog.chron.co...astros-rockets/


 






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