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No More FOX Saturday MLB Blackouts in 2014


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#21 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 12:48 PM

Teams absolutely do schedule the times of their home games, and on most Saturdays as Bwaldron said, there were no non - Fox games played in the Fox exclusive window.

FWIW, based on the 2012 season, Fox's exclusivity / blackouts meant we missed about 55 games, or a bit more than 2% of all games played.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:04 PM

Any additional Saturday coverage is great, but I wish they would have added all the Fox regional games too.


Did I miss something? They did. They just said in the deal those games will no longer be blacked out on MLB EI. So by my understanding those 3 or 4 games a week (more when they were airing at 7pm in July) will now be available on MLB EI. Did I read it wrong?

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:07 PM

Any additional Saturday coverage is great, but I wish they would have added all the Fox regional games too.


While we can assume they are not included in any Extra Innings package, nothing in the press release says they cannot be. If Fox is giving up the exclusive window, they may be more amenable to putting them in EI.

We will just have to wait and see.
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:17 PM

Maximum of 1 (or 2 in NY, LA or Chicago) team out-of-market blackouts.


not intending to get too off topic here....BUT DAMN I HATE MLB'S BLACKOUT TERRITORIES.

In Vegas we're blacked out for Padres, Doggers, Angels, Giants, A's, and Diamondbacks. Six teams!

Similar situation for Iowa (White Sox, Cardinals, Twins, Cubs, Brewers, Royals) and Hawaii (A's, Mariners, Giants, Padres, Angels, Doggers)

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:00 PM

Yeah,I have never understood Hawaii. What are they? Like 5K miles away from the nearest MLB city?

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:07 PM

not intending to get too off topic here....BUT DAMN I HATE MLB'S BLACKOUT TERRITORIES.

In Vegas we're blacked out for Padres, Doggers, Angels, Giants, A's, and Diamondbacks. Six teams!

Similar situation for Iowa (White Sox, Cardinals, Twins, Cubs, Brewers, Royals) and Hawaii (A's, Mariners, Giants, Padres, Angels, Doggers)


In Vegas, it works to your advantage if you don't want to sub to EI. You get 5 of the 6 teams with a normal sub and can add the DBacks with a sub to th e sports pack. Don't know how that works with Dish.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:12 PM

Did MLB negotiate the retirement of Joe Buck and Tim McCarver? If not, then I don't like the deal.
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:17 PM

I am assuming all Fox Saturday games will now be part of MLBEI, but you will have to watch the game aired in your local market on your Fox affiliate?

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:21 PM

I am assuming all Fox Saturday games will now be part of MLBEI, but you will have to watch the game aired in your local market on your Fox affiliate?


I'm assuming that will be a given on both counts.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:27 PM

Did MLB negotiate the retirement of Joe Buck and Tim McCarver? If not, then I don't like the deal.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

From the article:

FSMG also will double its number of regular season national windows on Saturdays from 26 to 52, with 12 of those windows exclusive to FOX and as many as 40 non-exclusive windows on another nationally distributed FOX channel.


I'm having trouble figuring this part out. Will FOX (proper) only have 12 Saturdays of baseball during the regular season? I assume (from the doubling of the number of windows) that FSMG will have two time slots per Saturday available to them, with one (sometimes both) of these time slots going to one of their cable TV outlets. Does that sound right?

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:08 PM

I am assuming all Fox Saturday games will now be part of MLBEI, but you will have to watch the game aired in your local market on your Fox affiliate?


I assume as much.

For markets that have multiple "local" teams though, I assume you'll still have the chance to be blacked out because of territory rights (instead of timeslot rights). This year in fact there was a padres/diamondbacks game on fox as well as yankees/red sox. Fox in Las Vegas gave us yankees/red sox. I assume I'll still be blacked out of padres/diamondbacks even after this change.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 05:08 PM

From the article:



I'm having trouble figuring this part out. Will FOX (proper) only have 12 Saturdays of baseball during the regular season? I assume (from the doubling of the number of windows) that FSMG will have two time slots per Saturday available to them, with one (sometimes both) of these time slots going to one of their cable TV outlets. Does that sound right?


Yeah that's how I read it.

12 Saturday's with National Fox exclusivity blocks. The less the better.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 05:10 PM

For markets that have multiple "local" teams though, I assume you'll still have the chance to be blacked out because of territory rights (instead of timeslot rights). This year in fact there was a padres/diamondbacks game on fox as well as yankees/red sox. Fox in Las Vegas gave us yankees/red sox. I assume I'll still be blacked out of padres/diamondbacks even after this change.


I really doubt it, and I hope I'm right. I'm guessing the blackouts will all be based around your local DMA game, not team territories at all. If the game isn't on your local Fox network it should be in the clear on EI, just like ST.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:52 PM

I really doubt it, and I hope I'm right. I'm guessing the blackouts will all be based around your local DMA game, not team territories at all. If the game isn't on your local Fox network it should be in the clear on EI, just like ST.


unfortunately, when there isn't a very crystal clear local DMA game, fox likes to show the "default national game". Which is how Las Vegas ends up in this situation. Las Vegas is blackout territory for BOTH the padres and diamondbacks (as well as 4 other teams), but fox broadcasts yankees/red sox anyways. It happened a handful of other times throughout the year, but this specific example stood out as being exceptionally ludicrous as BOTH teams in the matchup were "local" and it wasn't broadcast.

It's madness. Half of the problem is the fox affiliate showing the "wrong" game. The other half of the problem is MLB for having locations that are blacked out for 6 teams.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:58 PM

NBC has NHL to deal with and there is overlap with NHL and MLB.


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Posted 08 October 2012 - 11:16 AM

FOX & MLB are about 10 years behind getting this deal correct. On Saturdays i listen to my team on the MLB at bat app that i have on my iphone. I listen to the radio broadcast and i get to listen to my teams local announcers. Before i had the iphone i listened to the games on mlb.com. I haven't watched FOX Saturday baseball in a long time because my area always has shown the Yankees or Red Sox games two teams i care nothing about.




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