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Apple Producing Smaller Version of iPad


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#21 OFFLINE   Steve

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 08:26 AM

The key will be the price. A lot of people that have a 7" tablet got one because they are fairly cheap. With normal Apple pricing, thy still may not be able to crack the market. It will still be at a premium.

If the rumors are true, the iPad mini screen will have 40% more area than a standard 7" tablet, so not exactly an apples to Apple comparison when it comes to pricing. :P It's really in a class by itself, IMO, at 2/3 the size of a standard iPad.

One way to compare faily might be "sq in" pricing. A 16GB Nexus 7 at $225 (after the play store credit) is $10.23 per sq in. A 16GB iPad mini at $299 would be $9.97 per sq in, so comparable. (By comparison, a 9.7" iPad2 is $8.86 and an iPad3 is $11.09 per sq in.)

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 08:57 AM

I am really think it will be a lower priced lower-end version. $199?

Maybe rear camera only
Maybe wifi only
Maybe non retina display

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 09:39 AM

Maybe non retina display

I'm with you on this. If I had to guess, to keep price down it will be 1024x768. On a 7.85" screen, that's ~ 162 PPI, so a bit sharper than an iPad 2 at 132 PPI, but not retina.

I do think it will have front and back cameras, tho. To stay consistent with current iPods, iPhones and iPads.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 09:50 AM

If the rumors are true, the iPad mini screen will have 40% more area than a standard 7" tablet, so not exactly an apples to Apple comparison when it comes to pricing.

Quite true.

Then again...how much more will people want to pay for 0.85" of added screen? I suspect you are spot on that it will mostly come down to price, as well as brand loyalty. Apple has always been strong on loyalty.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:50 AM

Quite true.

Then again...how much more will people want to pay for 0.85" of added screen? I suspect you are spot on that it will mostly come down to price, as well as brand loyalty. Apple has always been strong on loyalty.


I can actually see some of the really loyal having both. An iPad sometimes is a bit large just for reading a book etc. I can honestly see some using both units depending on the circumstances they are in at the time.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:54 AM

I can actually see some of the really loyal having both. An iPad sometimes is a bit large just for reading a book etc. I can honestly see some using both units depending on the circumstances they are in at the time.


Same here -- if the mini is priced no more than $299 then I will likely get one & carry it with me in my purse.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:11 PM

I can actually see some of the really loyal having both. An iPad sometimes is a bit large just for reading a book etc. I can honestly see some using both units depending on the circumstances they are in at the time.

Enter the battery-powered, fully-wired and socketed iPad backpack/knapsack, to carry all those various tablets and stuff. The main problem I have with any portable device, be it laptop, notebook or tablet is that there is no carry handle. The Panny "Toughbook" has a handle but who can afford one of those? I want a handle. :confused:

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

The Panny "Toughbook" has a handle but who can afford one of those? I want a handle. :confused:

Speaking of which, I noticed last week they came out with a new one. A little cheaper, but not by much:

http://betanews.com/...t-toughbook-53/
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:23 PM

The more devices in the Apple Ecosystem ... the better it is for those already in the Ecosystem or those that see the value in the Ecosystem ... good stuff.

More is good ... more apps, more uses, more 3rd party possibilities, perfect.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:34 PM

Speaking of which, I noticed last week they came out with a new one. A little cheaper, but not by much:

http://betanews.com/...t-toughbook-53/

With no numeric keypad, is that a 4:3 AR screen I see? That is what I want and need.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:35 PM

Speaking of which, I noticed last week they came out with a new one. A little cheaper, but not by much:

http://betanews.com/...t-toughbook-53/

With no numeric keypad, is that a 4:3 AR screen I see? That is what I want and need.

Thanks for the link.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:52 PM

With no numeric keypad, is that a 4:3 AR screen I see? That is what I want and need.

Specs here. At 1366 x 768, appears to be 16:9.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 07:53 PM

This is the size I was hoping the original iPad would be, and I will be getting one. I love my iPad 2, but I have small hands and it is hard for me to hold when I read. I usually have to rest it on the arm of the chair and then I get a stiff neck or something.

I'm just hoping that they use the same anti-glare screen as they have on the iPhone 5 so I will be able to read it outside too. Depending on the specs, I just might get the one with the largest amount of storage and 3G, and then sell my iPad 2.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:48 AM

I've been itching to get a Nexus 7, but I tried a 7" Nook Color before we bought our iPad 2, and the 7" 16:9 screen was just too small for comfortable web browsing, both for my eyes and my fingers. The iPad Mini looks like it may be a great compromise between overall size and screen size (below), so I'm really looking forward to trying one out.

James Kendrick of ZDNet, who currently owns 4 different tablets, loves his iPad, but finds himself using his Nexus 7 more, due to it's convenient size. He had this to say: http://www.zdnet.com...ble-7000005077/

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:35 AM

Apple is obviously targeting those who don't want to pay $499 for an iPad. That's OK I guess but it's hard to say how many they will actually sell. For Apple users like me who already have an iPad, I don't plan on buying an iPad mini. Have no use for it at all. Wouldn't want the smaller screen. My iPhone is fine for that.

I just don't see Apple breaking any records with the iPad mini. The usual die hard Apple fans already have the iPad so I don't see them flooding the stores with lines around the block.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 07:51 AM

I just can't see the appeal of a small 4x3 tablet. It's too wide to be one comfortable one-handed.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:02 AM

I like the Retina display on the iPad3, these may be good for the kids, gotta check it out once released.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:14 AM

I just can't see the appeal of a small 4x3 tablet. It's too wide to be one comfortable one-handed.

I hold a standard iPad in portrait mode one-handed now, so the larger size won't be an issue for me. Weight after prolonged use is my issue. If they make it as thin and relatively light weight as the iPhone 5, I think it will be very comfortable.

Plus 7.9", 4:3 for web browsing will allow you to see more of a web page at a larger type size than on a 7" tablet.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:21 AM

The price point for the 7" err more closer to 8" tablet will be $399. If you look at Apple's products: iPhone-$199.99, iPod Touch-$299.99, and the iPad-$499.99, the missing price point is $399.99.

Let me explain... the new iPod touch is what 4" and the iPad is at 10" yet their price points are $200 apart. There is no way Apple will undercut selling the iPod touch by offering it a similar price point or one that is below it.

Why will Apple sell it at $399.99 whereas everyone else is selling it at $199.99? Simply because they can. Apple does a great job, in fact probably the best at marketing their products.

I am not in anyway an Apple fanboy but truth is truth. Once the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7 came out, Apple had no choice but to get into this space.

Oh BTW... HDTV is correct in the previous argument. Although Apple was not selling a 7" tablet, they are THE company that brought a successful
tablet to market with the iPad. Samsung and HTC tried to compete early in the space by releasing first a 7" tablet with no luck and Apple ignored it because there wasn't much success. Not until Amazon brought out the Kindle did Apple need to take notice. Now they have and will no doubt sell millions of iPad Minis. But Apple was definitely losing business to this particular market share and "getting their clocks cleaned" in this particular area.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:26 AM

And that is what I said they don't make one yet . Did you even reed what I said ? So how can they get there clocks cleaned ? Even though they have sold and are still selingl more iPads than any other tablet made big or small ? Is all I'm saying .


If you take the whole tablet market, it's possible to have one large segment where one's clock can be cleaned. And it's hyperbole, anyway; a colorful figure of speech.
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