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Gannett Hopping Mad Over 'Hopper' -- Longterm agreement reached!


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#126 OFFLINE   packethauler

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:40 PM

I'll survive if KARE disappears from my channel list tonight. All the shows I care about are available on Hulu the next day. I can stream those through my Hopper with the PlayOn software.

Gannett is being completely unreasonable, and I hope Dish stands up to these clowns. It's OTA for crying out loud!
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#127 OFFLINE   normang

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:12 PM

Most if not all shows will wind up on iTunes, Hulu, networks websites (with embedded ads probably) if you wait long enough they'll stream on Netflix or,come out on disc, without ads.

It's getting to the point where networks are biting the hands that feed them, it's getting too expensive to continue to watch shows, cable's been too expensive for a long time, and even satellite companies are getting up there to the point where I may have to consider down grading and look for the shows I'll miss online.

And IMHO it's networks and studios are the primary cause. Skipping commercials has been done for years, for Gannett to get in a huff over auto-skip now is dis-ingenuous. The method whether its in software or me pressing a button on a remote is irrelevant. I still don't watch their commercials.
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#128 OFFLINE   Michael P

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:09 PM

It's 12:09 AM and WKYC is still on Dish here in Cleveland. The station just aired a warning message that we "may lose" ch 3 on Dish at Midnight 10/7.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:20 PM

WUSA 9 in D.C. aired a warning during 60 minutes that programming might go off at midnight, but they are still on at 12:20 a.m...

So who blinked?

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:26 PM

Wait till midnight pacific.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:30 PM

Wait till midnight pacific.

Or Mountain ... Cheyenne time (unless they are waiting for Gannett affiliates on the west coast).

The WSJ says they were talking Sunday:
http://online.wsj.co...2408997314.html

Dish and Gannett were negotiating Sunday in hopes of reaching a deal that would avert a blackout of Gannett's TV stations on Dish's satellite service, a spokesman for Dish said.

An agreement allowing Dish to carry Gannett's 22 TV stations on its satellite-TV service was due to expire at midnight on Sunday. If the two companies don't agree on financial terms for a renewal of the deal, Dish customers in 19 cities—including Atlanta, Washington, D.C., Denver and Phoenix—faced losing access to certain ABC, CBS and NBC-affiliated stations.

A blackout of Gannett TV stations would hit Dish customers in 19 cities.

"We remain committed to getting a deal done," a spokesman for Gannett said Sunday.


Station list (via Google):
http://www.stationin...y-owner/Gannett

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:23 AM

Midnight Mountain Time - Gannett Denver Channels Gone.

The ironic thing is that Gannett is not talking. I've notice in most all their conversations of this, nothing has really been said other than DISH won't concede. Oh and nothing as I would expect on the main DISH site.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:49 AM

2:00am they went dark here in Atlanta, it is now 2:49am and they are back on.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:14 AM

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#135 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:39 AM

"MCLEAN, Va., Oct. 8, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- At this time, Gannett and Dish are continuing to negotiate. In order to provide additional time to reach a deal, both sides have agreed to extend the deadline by several hours."

Wow ... normally it is days. Seems odd to issue a press release for hours.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:51 AM

There is a dispute over two NBC denver stations 9 & 20 as well. Personally and I mean personally I am tired of my bill going up each year to the extent that I may just start hopping back and forth between Dish & DirecTV every two years. What I get is a brand new installation with the latest equipment and at least a 1 year discount under a two year contract.

I support Dish playing hard ball with Gannet, AMC networks and others that may come up in the future provided it keeps my bill lower than DirecTV or cable. The content providers have needed a big wake up call for over a decade and maybe lossing 20 million customers in their revenue stream may provide that. This is not going to be the same goal for everyone, some people are willing to pay whatever the cost will be.

I read over and over again that neither cable or satellite are growing at rates they did 10 years ago. Many wonder if the subscriber rates will actually start falling. Keep in mind that many of the younger folk buying their first home are choosing streaming sources over satellite or cable and pay as you go may be the only audience left for content providers if they don't change their position. I think a perfect example of this is the music industry. When was the last time anyone bought a CD? Now days people buy the specific songs they want.

http://www.9news.com...mming/dish.aspx


Hey, I still buy CD's. I don't like paying for 10% of the music.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:04 AM

Just for the heck of it I thought I would check, 2 am MDT, Denver 9 & 20 are back. But they just played the "could drop at Midnight on Sunday" ad again/still.

Got all the timers that really matter moved over to OTA. There's not many though.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:27 AM

I think it's already been said, but my take is if you use your DVR a lot, you're going to skip commercials whether or not you have to hit forward a few times. Dish is just acknowledging that most people skip commercials when watching recordings, so they're just doing away with the nonsense of having to forward through them 30 secs at a time. If content providers think this new feature is causing lots of people to skip commercials who otherwise wouldn't skip commercials, they're kidding themselves big time. And if some of your favorite shows get dropped for a time ala AMC, can you say P2P torrents? Most of the popular shows are posted to sites like PB within hrs of airing. Download, connect your PC or laptop to the big flat screen via HDMI, then stream 'em to the TV in near-HD resolution. If content providers are gonna squeeze Dish to drop a not-too-consequential commercial skipping feature or demand they (we) pay more for the content, then there are workarounds if they decide to pull their content.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 05:19 AM

:D

I think it's already been said, but my take is if you use your DVR a lot, you're going to skip commercials whether or not you have to hit forward a few times. Dish is just acknowledging that most people skip commercials when watching recordings, so they're just doing away with the nonsense of having to forward through them 30 secs at a time. If content providers think this new feature is causing lots of people to skip commercials who otherwise wouldn't skip commercials, they're kidding themselves big time. And if some of your favorite shows get dropped for a time ala AMC, can you say P2P torrents? Most of the popular shows are posted to sites like PB within hrs of airing. Download, connect your PC or laptop to the big flat screen via HDMI, then stream 'em to the TV in near-HD resolution. If content providers are gonna squeeze Dish to drop a not-too-consequential commercial skipping feature or demand they (we) pay more for the content, then there are workarounds if they decide to pull their content.


I use auto-hop all the time. I can activate the feature then put my remote down and watch.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 05:49 AM

I'll survive if KARE disappears from my channel list tonight. All the shows I care about are available on Hulu the next day. I can stream those through my Hopper with the PlayOn software.

Gannett is being completely unreasonable, and I hope Dish stands up to these clowns. It's OTA for crying out loud!


Can you give me more details on this software add on to your hopper?

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 05:50 AM

Both parties are ignoring the biggest benefit of commercial breaks. They allow the viewer time for bathroom breaks, letting the dog out, and going to the kitchen for a snack. ;)

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 06:26 AM

0825 local time and WUSA D.C. still on.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 07:22 AM

Setup my OTA timers this morning - for a whopping three shows.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 07:24 AM

2:00am they went dark here in Atlanta, it is now 2:49am and they are back on.


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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:03 AM

Can you give me more details on this software add on to your hopper?


http://www.playon.tv/playon is the where you can download the software. Basically it just piggybacks on top of the DLNA protocol. You can access it once it's installed on your PC through the 'Local Media' option through the 'Menu' button on the Hopper.
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:07 AM

My wife just texted me at work and stated that KARE 11 is still available and watchable at 9:00a CDT.
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:08 AM

http://www.marketwatch.com is reporting Dish and Gannett reached a deal. No details yet.

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#148 OFFLINE   packethauler

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:36 AM

http://www.marketwatch.com is reporting Dish and Gannett reached a deal. No details yet.


KARE 11's Facebook page also confirmed the deal. They aren't providing any details yet, either.
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#149 OFFLINE   harsh

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 09:51 AM

There's a press release from Gannett on PR Newswire (refenced in the MarketWatch article). The release is rather terse and doesn't indicate whether this is a long or short term agreement.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 10:22 AM

@dish_answers tweeted me and said they reached a long term agreement.




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