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#21 OFFLINE   macfan601

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:58 PM

Except that some of us are okay with that, where you seem to have a bug up your butt about it.


Correct I do. I am a power user. I have two Home Theaters in my condo plus other TVs. (Not to be taken as a brag statement. Simply a statement of fact). I can't get enough tuners and/or disk space. But I am even more bugged by what Directv charges for it and its fee. The unit is cheap to manufacture as it has no tuner or hard drive and it is not using any services of its own. It is simply riding on the HR34 and should be free because of that.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:02 PM

Correct I do. I am a power user. I have two Home Theaters in my condo plus other TVs. (Not to be taken as a brag statement. Simply a statement of fact). I can't get enough tuners and/or disk space. But I am even more bugged by what Directv charges for it and its fee. The unit is cheap to manufacture as it has no tuner or hard drive and it is not using any services of its own. It is simply riding on the HR34 and should be free because of that.

As I said earlier, there are pros & cons.

In my case:
I was paying for 2 DVRs & a receiver. This gave me four tuners to record and one for live TV.

When I finally move away from my HR24, I'll have my HR34 & C31. This will cost me less and give me one more tuner that can record.

YMMV [aka pros & cons]

Now if you really want to get pissed off:
How about those with the RVU TV that don't need a C31, yet they still pay for the $6/month to connect their own TV.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:05 PM

Oh right, I forgot about that program where Directv is forcing you to convert to C31s. Yeah, I guess I'd be pretty miffed about that.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:06 PM

Lets just agree to disagree. I won't post anymore on this particular thread. The OP is correct. I gave an opinion which some of you do not understand because it doesn't fit your particular situation. I think Directv is the best service around but that does not mean I am a die hard supporter of everything they do. I am 62 years old and was taught from birth to question everything. Criticism is the only way things get changed and improved. I am sorry I got into this discussion. OP just do what ever is best for you. Everyone has a different situation and needs.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:08 PM

The unit is cheap to manufacture as it has no tuner or hard drive and it is not using any services of its own. It is simply riding on the HR34 and should be free because of that.



Just because a company finds a way to save money in one area does not mean they should give things away for free. The cost of other areas (content mainly) are on the rise and they have to find ways to offset those cost otherwise everyones bill will keep going up or they will not be able to stay in business.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:12 PM

Just because a company finds a way to save money in one area does not mean they should give things away for free. The cost of other areas (content mainly) are on the rise and they have to find ways to offset those cost otherwise everyones bill will keep going up or they will not be able to stay in business.

DirecTV is a business for profit.

Now, the stupid $3/month MRV fee "could have been" added value and free.

The C31 "could have been" an accessory, like the AM21, and also added value.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:16 PM

I have two Home Theaters in my condo


Boy, that term sure has been watered down over the years. Trust me, you do not have two home theaters - nobody does. In my living room I have a 65" properly calibrated display with 7.2 sound, but it's not a home theater - it's a living room.


To answer the OP, I don't think it really matters, but I'd put the C31 in the bedroom due to the form factor.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:18 PM

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What other free devices enable one to watch DVR content from elsewhere in your home (more specifically other TVs...mobile devices aren't preferred for me)?

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:26 PM

Back to the question about a C31 vs. HR24 in a bedroom. I had a HR24-500 in our bedroom and replaced it with a C31 (yes I was in the test group so I've had one for awhile). I'm a very light sleeper and while the HR24-500 that was there was very quiet I could still hear the fan/hard drive very faintly. While it does use a tuner from the HR34 I haven't yet run into a conflict of not having a free tuner available. The reasons I had for doing the swap was:

- noise reduction
- better control over the ToDo list since one less DVR to manage
- access to OTA channels via the AM21 attached to the HR34
- caller ID provided by phone line attached to the HR34
- electricity savings by removing the HR24 and the UPS it attached to ( I put UPS's on all my DVR's)

I will say that the UI interface is a bit slower on the C31 vs. a HR24 but for me it's livable.

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:28 PM

Oh right, I forgot about that program where Directv is forcing you to convert to C31s. Yeah, I guess I'd be pretty miffed about that.


Convert, no. I would wager a bet, however, that as soon as the C31 comes out and is verified to be working correctly, the new customer installs will no longer be a HDDVR and three HD receivers. It will be an HR34 and three C31's, which is theoretically the same tuner count, and monthly subscription cost. It will save DirecTv a LOT of money in the future. Smart move on their part.

The problem lies with those customers who require more than two recording tuners. For those customers, the C31's taking a tuner from the HR34, might be a problem where a second HDDVR would be a better choice for them.

As long as DirecTv allows a person to configure their system to meet their needs, all should be ok.

As VOS points out, however, I still disagree with the monthly fee for the C31. If people are willing to pay the $6 for the C31, and another $3 for the cable rental to use it (MRV fee) ($9/mo total for the first one), then more power to them.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:29 PM

Rickt1962

What other free devices enable one to watch DVR content from elsewhere in your home (more specifically other TVs...mobile devices aren't preferred for me)?


Xbox360, SageTV Media extenders are two.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:31 PM

Xbox360, SageTV Media extenders are two.


They're giving those away for free now?

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:32 PM

Thanks RAD. Excuse my ignorance...a UPS is?

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:34 PM

They're giving those away for free now?


Free as in no monthly lease fee. I have no problem charging for the C31 hardware. Its the monthly fee to use it I disagree with. Its a mirror fee to mirror a tuner you are already paying for...

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:37 PM

Thanks RAD. Excuse my ignorance...a UPS is?


Uninterruptible Power Supply, basically a battery backup to keep things running during short duration power outages.

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:42 PM

I c...thanks.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:22 PM

Boy, that term sure has been watered down over the years. Trust me, you do not have two home theaters - nobody does. In my living room I have a 65" properly calibrated display with 7.2 sound, but it's not a home theater - it's a living room.


To answer the OP, I don't think it really matters, but I'd put the C31 in the bedroom due to the form factor.


ahem,
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But I have a 9.1 surround system in the living room as well as a 5.1 in my bedroom, thank you very much

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:26 PM

Boy, that term sure has been watered down over the years.


Or are you hanging your hat on the theater feature of having many patrons?

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:40 PM

Free as in no monthly lease fee. I have no problem charging for the C31 hardware. Its the monthly fee to use it I disagree with. Its a mirror fee to mirror a tuner you are already paying for...


+1. I agree totally. I would gladly pay more up front for no monthly fee for the C31. I am starting to think the H25 is the way to go now.

Btw I would be pissed if I supplied my own Samsung TV and had to pay the extra $6.

Edited by LoweBoy, 07 October 2012 - 08:49 PM.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:12 PM

May I say how mine does work?
Yes I do have one and have had it for a while.

So the C31 sees whatever the Genie (AKA HMC) sees?

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