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#41 OFFLINE   garys

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:50 PM

But, but, but, I've been getting it free all this time so surely Dish owes me some kind of compensation for any loss.


Dish has given people this channel before as a replacement for loss of another channel in the past, once the initial channel would come back this one would go back to it's current package. It is on Dish if you want to pay for it, Dish will probably not compensate you on this one.

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#42 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:50 PM

26 changes seen 10/21/12 at 4:51pm ET (v05)

New Uplinks / Mappings - Channels Available
131 AMC American Movie Classics added to 119° TP 8 (SD Instant Order Preview) AVAILABLE
131 AMC American Movie Classics added to 72.7° TP 9 (SD MPEG4 Instant Order Preview) AVAILABLE EPG linked to 119° TP 8 Ch 131
9417 AMC (131 HD) American Movie Classics added to 129° TP 31 (HD Preview) AVAILABLE
9417 AMC (131 HD) American Movie Classics added to 72.7° TP 32 (HD Preview) AVAILABLE

Channels Moved
9609 HDNMV HD Net Movies moved from 119° TP 8 to 110° TP 21 (SD)
9609 HDNMV HD Net Movies moved from 72.7° TP 9 to 61.5° TP 2 (SD MPEG4)
9610 HDNMV HD Net Movies moved from 129° TP 31 to 119° TP 7 (HD)
9610 HDNMV HD Net Movies moved from TP 32 to TP 24 at 72.7° (HD)

Channels Renamed
4695 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (119° TP 8 SD Hidden)
4695 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (72.7° TP 9 SD MPEG4 Hidden)
4696 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (119° 3sA27 (Hawaii) HD Hidden)
4696 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (119° 5sA24 (Alaska) HD Hidden)
4696 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (129° TP 31 HD Hidden)
4696 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (72.7° TP 32 HD Hidden)
4130 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (131 HD) (129° TP 31 HD Hidden)
4130 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (131 HD) (72.7° TP 32 HD Hidden)
4351 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (131 HD) (119° 3sA27 (Hawaii) HD Hidden)
4351 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (131 HD) (119° 5sA24 (Alaska) HD Hidden)
5406 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (131 HD) (129° TP 31 HD Hidden)
5406 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (131 HD) (72.7° TP 32 HD Hidden)
5499 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (131 HD) (119° 3sA27 (Hawaii) HD Hidden)
5499 HDNMV HD Net Movies renamed AMC American Movie Classics (131 HD) (119° 5sA24 (Alaska) HD Hidden)

Uplinks Removed
131 AXS AXS TV removed from 110° TP 2 (SD Preview)
131 AXS AXS TV removed from 72.7° TP 14 (SD MPEG4 Preview)
5024 AXS (131 HD) AXS TV removed from 119° TP 7 (HD Preview)
5024 AXS (131 HD) AXS TV removed from 72.7° TP 3 (HD Preview)

8719 Channels

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:53 PM

AXS just went away from 131 (mid-song, I might add). Some kind of help/promo screen.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:54 PM

It will take a couple of minutes for the receivers to catch up with the change.
I now have the correct video on channel 131 HD (Eastern Arc).

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:55 PM

Its back!!!!

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:56 PM

Bangor Maine has AMC back

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:58 PM

Seeing a Hopper commercial right now on 131.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:59 PM

yay

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:59 PM

The first episode of this season's TWD will air at 8pm ET right before the second episode. So there is probably a scramble at the uplink center to get the feed up, nice and public.


I have to think that is the only reason to put AMC back on tonight... for the Walking Dead... otherwise, there's no reason to try and get AMC back same-day as the deal.

Also... AMC was the only one of those channels that Dish had in HD before, right? so the uplink is really already there and probably only needs to be redirected and checked out quickly for relaunch.

The "others" not coming until November 1st... even though we had them all in SD before... kind of makes me think that maybe they are going to pick up HD feeds. Otherwise, why would they need 11 days to get the other SD channels back in their slots?

Seems like the mad scramble would be AMC today... then the others by this Wednesday... but that 11 days would be about right IF they are also picking up the HD feeds they didn't previously have for IFC, WeTV, Sundance, etc... and needed time to test those feeds.

At least that what I'm hoping is the case.

Oh.. and while I was typing this, I saw an update and AXS changed to AMC and "No Info"... so I guess they are working at it as we all speak. The trick for tonight and TWD on AMC is... will there be reliable EPG to set timers.

Hopper and 922 customers can't force EPG updates like other Dish receivers... If the Hopper works like the 922, you might can put it into standby for a bit and it will churn... but then you can't watch TV while that is happening... so tonight might be fun if you wanted to DVR rather than watch live.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:02 PM

You are nine minutes behind, Stewart ... try to keep up. :D

I don't believe AMC HD was up in test anywhere on the system ... so this was more than a numbering change. Many channels today are received in HD and converted to SD for the SD versions ... so it is possible that WE, IFC and Sundance were already received by DISH in HD before the channels were dropped.

I expect all to come in HD ... including FUSE, which has been off since 2011. We'll know more over the next 10 days.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

It's got to be killing some people that AMC is back. Some people took pleasure in others not having it just because they don't watch it. Putting it down putting people down that watch TWD.

Good for AMC and Dish getting this done finally! Ha ha to the haters who said it wouldn't happen!

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:08 PM

A lot of the time when these deals go through we see the channel move packages. The press release doesn't say anything about it, but does anyone know if AMC will be moving down to AT120+?

(I think it was only AT200 and above before... right?)

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:14 PM

I hope people here followed the court case. After the judge assigned a data forensics investigator to pull deleted emails from Dish corporate hard drives (a move Dish fought and lost), they proved that Cablevision had been correct all along, and that they had spent the money required by their contract with Dish. Emails between Ergen and his negotiator proved this.

So Walking Dead premieres to historic numbers last Sunday, the emails come out in court during the week, and Dish settled right before Ergen was scheduled to take the witness stand tomorrow morning, where he would have been massively humiliated.

Given all the leverage they now had, I'm surprised Cablevision settled for "only" $700M. Given what all the analysts covering the case were saying, they might have actually gotten the full $2.4B.

And given that AMC was restored to the lineup within hours of the settlement announcement, I hope that says something to all the people here who argued that dumping AMC had nothing to do with the lawsuit.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:20 PM

A lot of the time when these deals go through we see the channel move packages. The press release doesn't say anything about it, but does anyone know if AMC will be moving down to AT120+?

(I think it was only AT200 and above before... right?)

Right now it is in Free Preview ... available to all subscribers.

Given all the leverage they now had, I'm surprised Cablevision settled for "only" $700M. Given what all the analysts covering the case were saying, they might have actually gotten the full $2.4B.

Cablevision is also giving DISH wireless licenses that are worth money. With the value of those licenses included the settlement gets closer to a wash.

And given that AMC was restored to the lineup within hours of the settlement announcement, I hope that says something to all the people here who argued that dumping AMC had nothing to do with the lawsuit.

DISH cannot carry channels without the provider's permission. With the lawsuit unsettled there was no way AMC would grant their permission. Perhaps they finally came up with a price DISH could not refuse?

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:27 PM

As usual, we'll never know who blinked harder, but it sure looks like AMC did.


Somehow, I got kicked over to 101 which is why i was seeing the promo/help screen.

All sorted out now, AMC 131 manually deleted from my channel list again so I don't have to be bothered with it.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:29 PM

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:32 PM

is AMC channel 131 in HD?

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:33 PM

is AMC channel 131 in HD?

Yes.

Call now, CSRs are standing by.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:34 PM

Yes.

Call now, CSRs are standing by.


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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:38 PM

Great news. Anyone who had any timers set for the former AXS ch. 131 just a reminder to check them.




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