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#26 OFFLINE   Supramom2000

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 01:14 PM

That was a helluva cliff hanger, yes?


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 02:18 PM

My thoughts went something like this:

 

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so I have no idea how the show will continue, but I think Showtime wants it to.


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 02:36 PM

The 24 folks had a very specific political agenda. They even hung with their radical political heroes in their off-hours. They pushed it hard in 24, and Homeland is delivering the same, paranoid, "they're coming down Main St. for your daughters" crazed military/industrial message serving specific corporate interests. It's called "propaganda".



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:11 PM

The 24 folks had a very specific political agenda. They even hung with their radical political heroes in their off-hours. They pushed it hard in 24, and Homeland is delivering the same, paranoid, "they're coming down Main St. for your daughters" crazed military/industrial message serving specific corporate interests. It's called "propaganda".

 

Come up for air, Maruuk ... it's just a TV show.


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 06:02 PM

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 07:07 PM

Facts is facts.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 08:42 AM

I think next season will be Carrie on the war path against the new CIA head, she'll be undermining him every chance she gets.  The whole baby thing is just a PITA, hopefully it isn't in the next season.  I kept waiting for a cliff hanger ending and didn't see anything, they could have easily ended the show with this episode.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 09:57 AM

I think next season will be Carrie on the war path against the new CIA head, she'll be undermining him every chance she gets.  The whole baby thing is just a PITA, hopefully it isn't in the next season.  I kept waiting for a cliff hanger ending and didn't see anything, they could have easily ended the show with this episode.

Ya I'm worried that this may be where they should have ended it. Hopefully they continue the great writing though next season. Was really schocked to say the least with this last episode. Can totally do without the baby stuff also...



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 01:31 PM

The 24 folks had a very specific political agenda. They even hung with their radical political heroes in their off-hours. They pushed it hard in 24, and Homeland is delivering the same, paranoid, "they're coming down Main St. for your daughters" crazed military/industrial message serving specific corporate interests. It's called "propaganda".

 

 

Facts is facts.

 

Well....

 

What was a rather startling coincidence is the actual change in relations between Iran and "The West" following a change in Presidents in Iran without our having done something like that in "Homeland" (as far as I know!).

 

The Washington Post yesterday published a David Ignatius interview with Mohammad Javad Zarif, Iran’s foreign minister, which seems to indicate possibilities for the future, though Congress will probably kill it.

 

I personally would like to see our relationship with the Persian speaking people improve at least to the same level as with China. But my opinion is free and worth every penny.


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 01:21 AM

Half the population of Iran is under 35. They love Americans, even though they have no reason to after what we've done to them. The Mullahs are not Iran anymore than Ted Cruze is America. I agree, the trend is a good one. It goes against all this paranoid warmongering stuff on TV. More power to peace and goodwill!



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:49 PM

I worked Sunday, so did not get to the ep until Tuesday. Of course all I had to do was download USA Today to get the spoiler "Major Character Death..." before I could avert my eyes. Bastids.

 

So I watched hoping the major character was the new FBI chief. He is a really good actor to make me hate him that much. But I knew in my heart that there was no where else to go with Brody.

 

My fantasy is that Saul, who is moving to NYC, gets the homeland security post there, for the city, and that Carrie flames out in Istanbul (who wants to watch a show based in Istanbul?) and Saul ropes her in. Then it could be NYC-centric, and a bit more like 24. Those guys are the experts at a "24-like" show, for obvious reasons. Speaking of which, I am ready for Jack, already, lets crank up the 12-hour postlude ASAP. Jawadi could visit NYC and the UN.

 

But yes, Patinkin leaves early; low boredom threshold, apparently, so even he is doubtful for next year.


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 11:57 AM

Didn't get to see it until last night. Wow! 

 

Could we continue with just Danes, Murray Abraham, the Senator, Saul's wife or ex-wife, and Mrs. Brody and daughter? Probably. 

 

One question: I thought that Saul's wife was unfaithful not only in marriage vows, but some sort of other betrayal. Was she? 


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 07:50 PM

i read they told Morena Baccarin and Morgan Saylor they won't be back as series regulars, i get it they are mad at Baccarin she had a baby in middle of shooting the show and never finished her storyline with Dana



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Posted 22 December 2013 - 12:27 PM

If you are a lead character under contract getting paid lead character money you have to wrestle with avoiding pregnancy, even though it is probably illegal to make that a breach issue.

 

But, if you are a peripheral character I don't think you do. She lost some work, lost some dough, probably, and probably lost the option to continue with the show. But she probably also weighed all of that and didn't exactly make a blind decision. No one really has a right to be upset or to complain. Life happens.

 

But really, is there a better-looking actress anywhere on the planet? She'll be just fine. Besides, the internet hated Dana and her story, so Baccarin getting pregnant only probably helped the show get back on track. Personally, I felt a lot of empathy for Dana and liked her a lot, but I agree that maybe her issues were a little too removed from where the center of the show should have been.


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Posted 22 December 2013 - 07:27 PM

I'd assume that since Brody is gone, so is his family from the show. What would be the point considering they never dealt with them when he was in Iran? Sent from the jaws of my Hammerhead!

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 07:32 PM

Didn't get to see it until last night. Wow! 

 

Could we continue with just Danes, Murray Abraham, the Senator, Saul's wife or ex-wife, and Mrs. Brody and daughter? Probably. 

 

One question: I thought that Saul's wife was unfaithful not only in marriage vows, but some sort of other betrayal. Was she? 

Some people might consider that the person she was unfaithful with was a Mossad agent, as another betrayal.  I don't think she knew.  But she was unfaithful just after a heavy and deep conversation in which Saul told her how much she meant to him and how hard he was going to try.  That really bothered me.


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Posted 22 December 2013 - 10:19 PM

Some people might consider that the person she was unfaithful with was a Mossad agent, as another betrayal. I don't think she knew. But she was unfaithful just after a heavy and deep conversation in which Saul told her how much she meant to him and how hard he was going to try. That really bothered me.


I may be misremembering, but I thought their heavy and deep conversation came right AFTER she spent the night with the guy. I remember thinking wow, Saul, you're like a day too late to decide to start paying attention to her. Then she met the guy at the coffee shop to tell him that her and Saul were going to give their marriage another shot.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 06:12 PM

I may be misremembering, but I thought their heavy and deep conversation came right AFTER she spent the night with the guy. I remember thinking wow, Saul, you're like a day too late to decide to start paying attention to her. Then she met the guy at the coffee shop to tell him that her and Saul were going to give their marriage another shot.

No, I think you are right.  But I thought there was some sort of plea on his part right before, and he got called away again - as per usual.  I thought I remembered some conversation where he felt hopeful that they were getting back on track.  And then she slept with the Mossad guy.  Who turned around and bugged the house!

 

What I want to know is if the Mossad guy seduced her on purpose?  Or was it because she dumped him that he decided to bug the house?


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 07:26 PM

No, I think you are right. But I thought there was some sort of plea on his part right before, and he got called away again - as per usual. I thought I remembered some conversation where he felt hopeful that they were getting back on track. And then she slept with the Mossad guy. Who turned around and bugged the house!

What I want to know is if the Mossad guy seduced her on purpose? Or was it because she dumped him that he decided to bug the house?


You're right, I think there was more than one conversation now that I think of it. She was like, whatever Saul, it's always something with you. She then slept with the guy and Saul called her with his second, heartfelt plea as she was getting dressed while the Mossad guy was still in bed!

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 08:52 PM

No, I think you are right.  But I thought there was some sort of plea on his part right before, and he got called away again - as per usual.  I thought I remembered some conversation where he felt hopeful that they were getting back on track.  And then she slept with the Mossad guy.  Who turned around and bugged the house!

 

What I want to know is if the Mossad guy seduced her on purpose?  Or was it because she dumped him that he decided to bug the house?

 

Nah, he had other reasons to bug the house. I've heard of revenge by dumpees, but video only, posted on the 'Net for all to see!.....  :eek2:


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:23 AM

Ok, but did he seduce her on purpose?  Was she targeted?  Saul said they knew each other from wherever she was before she finally came back home.


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:12 PM

I always thought he targeted her in order to gain access to the house in order to bug it. But I've been wrong plenty before!


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 12:37 PM

I always thought he targeted her in order to gain access to the house in order to bug it. But I've been wrong plenty before!

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