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#51 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 09:21 AM

Yes, but if their database is ever hacked, every single Fidelity password would very easily be cracked. Capital One's passwords aren't case sensitive. There is just no good reason for it.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 09:57 AM

And I would expect the passwords in the database to be encrypted with additional keys from your information.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 12:46 PM

Yeah, that alone just isn't good enough to make me comfortable, but for my HSA, i'm required to use them for pretax deposits from my pay. But then I use two factor whereever I can. No one should be prevented from choosing a random mixed case 20 character password with symbols. If the passwords are hashed and salted properly, there is no reason to not allow it.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 03:56 PM

I think Fidelity's password policy is the worst I've ever seen. Even to log in online, it's all based on a phone compatible password. So for the letter b in a password, the system will accept a,b, c or the number 2. And of course it's case insensitive.

That's enough reason to make your password lengthy and not a combination of real words. First letters of phrases or sentences that you can easily remember (but no one else can) work well. Put in a number 4 instead of an F for "for", as an example.

 

The sites I dislike are the ones that limit the length of your password to 8 or 10 characters.

 

And which is the better password -- 00000000, 12345, EGBDF (for a musician), LETMEIN, or PASSWORD?


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 04:26 PM

That's enough reason to make your password lengthy and not a combination of real words. First letters of phrases or sentences that you can easily remember (but no one else can) work well. Put in a number 4 instead of an F for "for", as an example.

 

The sites I dislike are the ones that limit the length of your password to 8 or 10 characters.

 

And which is the better password -- 00000000, 12345, EGBDF (for a musician), LETMEIN, or PASSWORD?

 

But that's the point, it doesn't matter how complex the password is. In Fidelity's case, the max length is 12 characters, minimum 6. Since it accepts 4 different options for each character in the password as valid, that reduces the entropy.

 

Now, I did just log in and it looks like they added a secret answer portion. Two of the four allow up to 31 characters, one only takes 10, and the last only allows a 4 digit number.  :bang



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 04:35 PM

Back in the early 1970s, before "control" characters were widely used, if someone entered their system into Dartmouth's time sharing system, the characters would actually get typed on the teletype paper and then the teletype would take over and type maybe half a dozen characters over each.  A friend of mine used to be able to evenly erase the overstrikes and retrieve those passwords.  He could also end long distance telephone calls by whistling 1,300 cycles into the phone.



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 06:27 PM

I actually have a Captain Crunch whistle, the one that could be used to get into the system.



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 08:15 AM

I have the Pierre LaFoote version...... :hurah:



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:57 PM

I actually have a Captain Crunch whistle, the one that could be used to get into the system.

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