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Windows 8 - Any first hand experiences?


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#121 OFFLINE   Cholly

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:16 AM

Re: the Start Button. I use this: www.windows8startbutton.com
It gives me the classic Windows 7 start screen with all its goodies and shut down.
I still have the capability to revert to the Windows 8 interface if I so desire.
So far, I've found Windows 8 to be stable. I've also discovered at least one program that works with Windows 8 that did not work with Windows 7 -- Nikon's Picture Project photo editing software.
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#122 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:10 PM

Why is it bad for business? Because businesses aren't going to up and reinvest in touchscreens overnight. Many business PCs are 3+ years old and that's a problem. Using Win8 "the way they want you to" requires a touchscreen or extremely large touchpad.

If I "had" to use Win8 for work I would install Start8 or any of the other Start Screen replacements and simply use it as I used a Windows 7 device. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement of Microsoft's new OS.

I have spent a lot of time with 8 at home, and I've learned a lot of keyboard shortcuts that help. Not that keyboard shortcuts are really the best way to go... isn't that why people got mice? But nonetheless I figured out how to show a clock when I want one, I installed Chrome so I don't have to use the bizarrely nonfunctional Internet Explorer version in the "Windows Store environment" (or whatever they call it) and by and large I ignore the start screen because the live tiles are a huge distraction when I'm trying to get things done.

Pretty sad when the best feature of a flagship OS is that you can pretty much make it look and act like the old one.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

Why is it bad for business? Because businesses aren't going to up and reinvest in touchscreens overnight. Many business PCs are 3+ years old and that's a problem. Using Win8 "the way they want you to" requires a touchscreen or extremely large touchpad.

If I "had" to use Win8 for work I would install Start8 or any of the other Start Screen replacements and simply use it as I used a Windows 7 device. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement of Microsoft's new OS.

I have spent a lot of time with 8 at home, and I've learned a lot of keyboard shortcuts that help. Not that keyboard shortcuts are really the best way to go... isn't that why people got mice? But nonetheless I figured out how to show a clock when I want one, I installed Chrome so I don't have to use the bizarrely nonfunctional Internet Explorer version in the "Windows Store environment" (or whatever they call it) and by and large I ignore the start screen because the live tiles are a huge distraction when I'm trying to get things done.

Pretty sad when the best feature of a flagship OS is that you can pretty much make it look and act like the old one.


Maybe I'm just a fan but I could see how Metro would make a great office environment. The ability to just have all of the programs you need on the front page of metro.

Live tiles can be disabled just by right clicking on them and turning off the live updates.

I do agree that the metro IE is a waste of time and they should have just used the regular version if it's installed. If they had forced everyone to use metro to start without a destop option then it would have even more complaints. However I think that once people start to customize it they will start to see the benefits of it.

The largest reason's that companies won't adopt it immediately is the same reason they didn't adopt Vista, or 7. It has to do more with their support level rather than what's out there now. Then there's the whole custom software aspects. Microsoft could give companies free licenses for a year to swap early and most large companies would not do it because of security and program compatibility reasons.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 10:55 PM

from what I've seen of it it's just another product in microsoft's "we want to go out of buisness" plan..
ie9 is a joke, 10 even worse.. why make a web browser that can't view the web that's out there?
now they build win8 and make it for a 3yr old kid..that kind of main screen is for things that don't have enough power to run multiple things.. that's why we use them on phones and tablets.. you have to dump/switch/reload stuff.. on a PC you leave them running and just switch view..

my OS is for running programs, I don't really care what it looks like.. there are some new things in 7 that I like but really the win98se look worked fine too.. I could get to programs, switch quickly, and copy/paste between them..

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:05 AM

Maybe I'm just a fan but I could see how Metro would make a great office environment. The ability to just have all of the programs you need on the front page of metro.

I'm taken back to GEOS on the Commodore 64.

I'm not convinced that being able to see a relatively large tile is ultimately a more effective representation of what's going on than the tabs in the Taskbar.

Extra (or longer) steps in navigation abound; a hallmark of later versions of Windows (especially the Control Panel).

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:51 AM

Shades228, keep fighting the good fight. As of yet you're the only person I know who actually likes Windows 8 for what it is. I'll disable all the live tile functionality, that's a good idea. Might even try to find a clock app.

Overall I am reminded to Apple's switch to the G3 processors about 14 years ago. It was a good computer, if you bought a floppy drive, a keyboard with all the function keys, a functioning mouse, a zip drive (hey, it was 1998) and the adapter you need to use a VGA monitor. Then you had a functioning computer.

In a predictable move, Apple appeased professional users in the next generation, bringing back a usable mouse and keyboard, allowing for internal zip drives, industry standard monitor ports and hey, they even decided not to make the computer bright blue. Microsoft, are you listening and learning?

This is like that. Start with Windows8, put the start button back on the desktop, turn off the live tiles, buy a huge touchpad, possibly a second monitor, and hey you might have all the functionality you had last week provided you are willing to learn the new gestures and keyboard shortcuts.

Change is good. Change that makes people more productive and more engaged is good. Change that removes productivity and makes people wonder why they bothered is not.
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 06:45 PM

I've been setting a new laptop this weekend with Windows 8. It's a mistake to put it on a non-touch device.

That being said, the absolute best thing to know about Windows 8 is "Windows Key + X".
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:12 AM

I've been setting a new laptop this weekend with Windows 8. It's a mistake to put it on a non-touch device.

That being said, the absolute best thing to know about Windows 8 is "Windows Key + X".


Agreed.
My $.02 something like Start8 is required and makes it perfectly workable.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:55 AM

one thing I read about Windows 8 that sounded interesting is that the built in mail client supports ActiveSync.

I was thinking users could use that instead of Outlook offsite and wouldn't need Outlook Anywhere anymore.

Of course the Mail client makes you sign on to a Microsoft account so that sucks.

I guess I would need Outlook 2013 for that feature.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:14 AM

I've been trying to use Mail with an Exchange account but it's kind of a drag. Even the web client for Outlook is better. In fact using Mail with multiple accounts is an exercise in hair pulling. You'll get an audio cue that you have a message but have no idea what account it's on, so you have to keep pushing buttons until you find it.
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