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#21 OFFLINE   boba

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:03 PM

Interesting. . . I just read the FAQ for the system and it says it can be activated "on-demand" for a $7/month outlet fee. The Dish CSR I was last talking to had mentioned just calling up & activating the cabin receiver for $7/month. I wonder if this is what he had in mind? If I can get the "on-demand" service to use with the existing dish that is up there (i.e. not having to buy the portable antenna), that's exactly what I'm trying to do!

All you need to do is buy the 211 so you own it. The monthly fee on a 211 is $7/mo. An owned receiver can be activated and deactivated at will.

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#22 OFFLINE   Stewart Vernon

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:08 AM

Interesting. . . I just read the FAQ for the system and it says it can be activated "on-demand" for a $7/month outlet fee. The Dish CSR I was last talking to had mentioned just calling up & activating the cabin receiver for $7/month. I wonder if this is what he had in mind? If I can get the "on-demand" service to use with the existing dish that is up there (i.e. not having to buy the portable antenna), that's exactly what I'm trying to do!


You can de-activate an owned receiver when it isn't being used and save that money... but still to be in compliance with the terms of service you couldn't have the 211 activated and at a different location from your other receivers unless you call up and have them change your service address and then don't leave anyone at home to watch the receivers you don't take with you.

I don't want to be a nanny... but as long as the thread is about maintaining compliance with the terms-of-service, everything is cool... but if it starts down a path of things that would violate terms of service then we would have to close the thread.

Just wanted to be sure you were getting the right information related to being able to deactivate an owned receiver relative to what your ultimate goal is per your earlier posts.

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#23 OFFLINE   Ken C.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 07:15 AM

You can de-activate an owned receiver when it isn't being used and save that money... but still to be in compliance with the terms of service you couldn't have the 211 activated and at a different location from your other receivers unless you call up and have them change your service address and then don't leave anyone at home to watch the receivers you don't take with you.

I don't want to be a nanny... but as long as the thread is about maintaining compliance with the terms-of-service, everything is cool... but if it starts down a path of things that would violate terms of service then we would have to close the thread.

Just wanted to be sure you were getting the right information related to being able to deactivate an owned receiver relative to what your ultimate goal is per your earlier posts.


Thank you Stewart (and again to everyone else), I'm am not looking for a way to circumvent any rules or TOS, my intent was to find out IF what I wanted to do can be done since I initially received totally conflicting information from two different Dish reps so I thought I would try to get the real scoop from the folks here who have real-life experiences and aren't just trying to sign me up!

That being said, given what I read about their "Tailgater" system, how is what I want to do any different than the Tailgater? Granted I did not read the full TOS for that system but if I had one of those, would I need to change my service address to the 49'ers parking lot for the day if I wanted to use it for its intended purpose? Not trying to be fecetious, I just don't understand the difference between taking a tailgater up there or just taking the 211 and using the dish that's already on-site, paying the outlet fee and watching a movie or a show?

My ultimate goal was to simply find out if there was a way to get satellite service at my cabin without having to have a separate account. If it violates the TOS then I won't do it, simple as that. However, now that I know what Dish's term is for what I wanted to do I will try to check out the "On Demand" service that is available for the Tailgater.

Does anyone have direct experience with the Tailgater?

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 07:48 AM

A Snow Bird account may be your best option. This type account allows you to have service at 2 locations and only requires you to call in to change the address between homes when you will be at the alternate location. If you have further questions, please let me know. Thanks.

Thank you Stewart (and again to everyone else), I'm am not looking for a way to circumvent any rules or TOS, my intent was to find out IF what I wanted to do can be done since I initially received totally conflicting information from two different Dish reps so I thought I would try to get the real scoop from the folks here who have real-life experiences and aren't just trying to sign me up!

That being said, given what I read about their "Tailgater" system, how is what I want to do any different than the Tailgater? Granted I did not read the full TOS for that system but if I had one of those, would I need to change my service address to the 49'ers parking lot for the day if I wanted to use it for its intended purpose? Not trying to be fecetious, I just don't understand the difference between taking a tailgater up there or just taking the 211 and using the dish that's already on-site, paying the outlet fee and watching a movie or a show?

My ultimate goal was to simply find out if there was a way to get satellite service at my cabin without having to have a separate account. If it violates the TOS then I won't do it, simple as that. However, now that I know what Dish's term is for what I wanted to do I will try to check out the "On Demand" service that is available for the Tailgater.

Does anyone have direct experience with the Tailgater?



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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:56 PM

I would simply start an account at home with a 211k receiver at each tv desired there and just take a receiver to the cabin when needed. Each 211k after the first is $7/month, with a one-time $40 fee on the account to activate DVR functions.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:24 PM

I would simply start an account at home with a 211k receiver at each tv desired there and just take a receiver to the cabin when needed. Each 211k after the first is $7/month, with a one-time $40 fee on the account to activate DVR functions.


Keeping in mind of course that you still would need to change your service address when you go to the cabin.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:59 AM

Keeping in mind of course that you still would need to change your service address when you go to the cabin.


But of course! ;)

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:15 AM

Is All American Direct (mydistantnetworks.com) an option? Since AAD provides the locals from SanFran, can anyone in the Sanfran area activate that service to get just the SanFran channels? That would certainly solve the problem of SpotBeams since the AAD channels are national (albeit standard def).

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:06 AM

I believe you are only eligible for them if you cant get your locals via another method...

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:42 AM

How much is the Snowbird account and how would that differ from just changing your service address every time you go to the cabin?

Also, with a regular account, how many times can you switch your service address?
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 10:57 PM

That's a good question. I've been looking at the rules for this type of thing with D* but they only allow one suspend a year for up to 6 months at a time.

Going to put a cramp on my snowbird plans. If E* can be more flexible, maybe they'll get my vote.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:32 PM

That's a good question. I've been looking at the rules for this type of thing with D* but they only allow one suspend a year for up to 6 months at a time.


I'm not really getting clear information on that question either... I'm sure there is a limit, but can't get a specific number!

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:39 PM

Well I still think AAD would be an option, even if you have to file waivers. I can't see the San Francisco stations NOT granting a waiver for their OWN signals. It can't hurt to call them up.

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