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Will D* Ever Have Channel Logos in the Grid?


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#76 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:40 AM

I can't speak for them all, but the B65 model had an option to show logos in the Guide, no logos in the Guide (more content), PiG, no PiG, etc.


Mine didn't have all that. I think I had a B2.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

So, the logo does what, then?

The logo transcends/survives both channel number changes and callsign changes. If the logo changes, it changes everywhere.

What good is the channel number or callsign in comparison? It won't help you if you're viewing in another market.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

I still do not understand why anyone would scroll through the guide to look for channels. One scrolls through the guide to find out what is on. Who cares what the channel is? What is important is what the program is. I much prefer the cleanness of the DirecTV guide.


While it doesn't happen a lot, there are times when thing like The Presidential Debates are on, or perhaps disaster coverage is on, and I'd like to watch one network over another.

Or, I'm setting up a recording that I know is on ABC (for example), but not for another week. Often, I do that from the guide instead of Search and it's a bit easier if I'm on the right channel to begin with.

There have been other times when a Network is showing a sporting even that goes extra long. I might get home and want to watch the ending, but it's no longer listed in the guide (because it was supposed to be over).

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 01:58 AM

I don't really care about the logos but I sure wish DirecTV would hire some engineers from Dish! The guide has much more info and is much much quicker to navigate. Anyone that disagrees should stop by a reseller that has both side by side. Night and Day difference moving around the guide.

I'm afraid if DirecTV tried to add the amount of info that Dish has in the guide it would take an already too slow and clunky guide and move it over to 'usable'. If they added logos it may just completely kill the guide - it can't handle the in-guide ads it has now.


I totally agree, I'd rather see 3 hours of programming on the screen than D*'s measly 1.5 hours. It would make browsing for movies to DVR a LOT quicker.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:10 PM

Total clutter. That looks nasty.


I agree, I don't know about everyone else but I know which channels are which without having to see the logos.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:04 PM

I agree, I don't know about everyone else but I know which channels are which without having to see the logos.


I think the Dish GUI is far more informative. However, I prefer to see the logos. This is another case of having a toggle on/off option in the menu for those that don't like them.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

I think the Dish GUI is far more informative. However, I prefer to see the logos. This is another case of having a toggle on/off option in the menu for those that don't like them.


Informative? I see no extra data there. Except the Hopper icons.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:28 PM

I think the Dish GUI is far more informative. However, I prefer to see the logos. This is another case of having a toggle on/off option in the menu for those that don't like them.


Personally, I would prefer to see the logos. An option to display them or not would be a good idea.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

Informative? I see no extra data there. Except the Hopper icons.


More time in the grid is mainly it and easier to read. Just personal opinion. I don't think the D* guide is bad, I just would like the option of logos. Again a simple toggle on/off would appease both sides.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:22 PM

I would also like to see logos in the guide, more time and I think the Dish guide does look nicer.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:26 PM

More time in the grid is mainly it and easier to read. Just personal opinion. I don't think the D* guide is bad, I just would like the option of logos. Again a simple toggle on/off would appease both sides.


I have no issue with more time but the guide looks distracting to me. Icons and graphics everywhere.

I use a busy guide with fios. Clean and simple is actually better. Static shots on a computer do not indicate how it is to use.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:35 PM

Anyone noticed there is now more space on the left side of the guide? Perhaps this is a sign of logos coming?

Edited by DodgerKing, 18 November 2012 - 08:53 AM.


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

Any notice there is now more space on the left side of the guide? Perhaps this is a sign of logos coming?


Came across this and love it. Very subtle with the logos, shows more channels as well. Only thing I'd like is slight more time in the grid and color coding of grid boxes for when a show is recording - IE: the grid box is red. They don't need to color grid boxes for categories. I just like the highlighted red boxes so when scrolling you see what's recording or scheduled to record.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:45 PM

Now that looks pretty nice!
If you want to see what is recording, the show always has an orange circle with a R in it, in the guide.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:51 PM

Now that looks pretty nice!
If you want to see what is recording, the show always has an orange circle with a R in it, in the guide.


I did notice that just now as I was searching YouTube for video of the Genie! Thanks. Looking at the above pic, I can see where trying to cram more time in could jumble up the Guide. My Time Warner DVR shows the same time frame as in the picture but is 4:3 so all the titles are mashed together or cut off. It seems having less time allows for an easier to read grid. That said, they could probably squeeze in another hour without causing a problem because they use the 16:9 to it's fullest.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:08 AM

Came across this and love it. Very subtle with the logos, shows more channels as well. Only thing I'd like is slight more time in the grid and color coding of grid boxes for when a show is recording - IE: the grid box is red. They don't need to color grid boxes for categories. I just like the highlighted red boxes so when scrolling you see what's recording or scheduled to record.

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Looks good. Where did you find this guide with logos? Is it real or designed by someone else?

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:36 AM

Any notice there is now more space on the left side of the guide? Perhaps this is a sign of logos coming?


I believe you're right. Never noticed it before. Hopefully, they'll add logos to the guide.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:39 AM

Came across this and love it. Very subtle with the logos, shows more channels as well. Only thing I'd like is slight more time in the grid and color coding of grid boxes for when a show is recording - IE: the grid box is red. They don't need to color grid boxes for categories. I just like the highlighted red boxes so when scrolling you see what's recording or scheduled to record.


Even with logos dumped in, you can easily see how much cleaner and less junked up the directv guide is.

I'd only add a half hour. Too much data actually makes it harder to comprehend.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:51 AM

Or maybe they choose to not have a noisy, jumbled mess.


Oh, I don't know, that doesn't seem to be a factor since the whole Cinema, PPV, Genie, VOD, My Directv thing is a noisy, jumbled mess.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 09:42 AM

Anyone noticed there is now more space on the left side of the guide? Perhaps this is a sign of logos coming?


Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the logos to the left of the channel numbers,
but,
that extra space is there probably for the fact that a lot of TVs have varying amounts of overscanning and cut off different amounts of the picture.
The small picture at the top also stops at the same place that the channel numbers do.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:29 AM

Looks good. Where did you find this guide with logos? Is it real or designed by someone else?


Came across it while searching images to comparing competing guides. It's a mock up of what the person would like to see I believe. It is a clean interface even with the logos added in this manner.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:51 AM

Came across it while searching images to comparing competing guides. It's a mock up of what the person would like to see I believe. It is a clean interface even with the logos added in this manner.


Thank you. Like the way it looks with logos. Maybe Directv will update the guide, who knows.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:25 AM

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have the logos to the left of the channel numbers,
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that extra space is there probably for the fact that a lot of TVs have varying amounts of overscanning and cut off different amounts of the picture.
The small picture at the top also stops at the same place that the channel numbers do.


There wasn't that much space there before

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:07 AM

That's really crisp and clean - I'd certainly have no problem with that, myself.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:19 AM

I would rather leave out the logos, shift the channel numbers to the left, and add another 30 minutes to the guide data. I would also reduce the size of the banner and add a few more lines of channels.




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