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Today was not a good day with the CSRs


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#26 OFFLINE   joshjr

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:40 PM

Doesn't matter what I "know." If the scripts say to tell the customer "A," and the customer-facing website says "B," that's not my issue. Even if I know the answer, I must stick to the script. Welcome to the real world, sweetie.


Sounds like with your attitude, you will go far in life. I give you r job with DirecTV 2 more months before you are gone. Good luck with what ever you do. I hope you never own your own company!

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#27 OFFLINE   Arubaflower

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:41 PM

After dealing with customers who are so stupid, they call DirecTV right away after hitting the input button, instead of learning how to use their equipment, I tend not to be "nice." You want nice, go to Dish.


If Dish was smart they'd hurry and churn out a new commercial with that quote as their main tagline stating something like: "From the lips of DirecTV's own agent: 'If you want nice, go to Dish'". It would top all prior advertising Madison Ave. ever created for Dish. :lol:

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:09 PM

After dealing with customers who are so stupid, they call DirecTV right away after hitting the input button, instead of learning how to use their equipment, I tend not to be "nice." You want nice, go to Dish.


The irony being that if the customers were more knowledbeable in general and did not call in seeking assistance in the numbers they do, who would need you and your job?

If the customers were what you think they should be you would not have a job. Of course odds are you won't have one sooner than later anyway.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:15 AM

You're talking out your butt. TEC agents are employees of NEW Corp, which provides 6 weeks of intensive training, with several tests required to be passed before going to the phones.


Did an install for a TEC agent yesterday. Been working for NEW for a few weeks and didn't have a clue how anything worked. Followed me around the entire time and kept asking me questions about people who called in with problems that "the book" didn't know how to fix. After the install she still didn't have a clue. Kept asking where "the SWM" was. Points at a splitter: "Is that the SWM?" Points at the Power Inserter: "So is that the SWM?" She said that she has been told not to send a a technician or she'll be penalized and to get the customer off of the phone ASAP whether or not the problem is fixed. She just has to hope that they don't call in again. I've always felt guilty signing up a customer for the PP but it's a "requirement" for me so I talk them into it. I knew it was bad, but I never realized just how bad it was. :nono2:

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:45 AM

After dealing with customers who are so stupid, they call DirecTV right away after hitting the input button, instead of learning how to use their equipment, I tend not to be "nice." You want nice, go to Dish.


What does TEC mean? When you use acronyms, it's always good form to explain them so us stupid folks can keep up.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

Doesn't matter what I "know." If the scripts say to tell the customer "A," and the customer-facing website says "B," that's not my issue. Even if I know the answer, I must stick to the script. Welcome to the real world, sweetie.


Which only supports the argument that you aren't needed to be that technical. Why bother if you are only allowed to follow scripts?

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

TEC is an inside reference, so that DirecTV agents on this board know I'm legit. TEC is the internal code for the technical support queue, just as when you talk to BGI, or Billing/Gen. Inquiries when you call about those sorts of issues.


Thanx, I had no idea what that meant.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:35 PM

You're talking out your butt. TEC agents are employees of NEW Corp...


The only tech agents that are employees of National Electronics Warranty, LLC (NEW) are the Protection Plan tech agents. NEW does not do all of DirecTV's technical troubleshooting. For example, I work for DIRECTV, LLC as a tech agent. You can see in my sig how long I've been with the company. Other tech agents may work for Convergys or other third party customer service providers.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:04 PM

The only tech agents that are employees of National Electronics Warranty, LLC (NEW) are the Protection Plan tech agents. NEW does not do all of DirecTV's technical troubleshooting. For example, I work for DIRECTV, LLC as a tech agent. You can see in my sig how long I've been with the company. Other tech agents may work for Convergys or other third party customer service providers.


Does that mean the whole PP is now staffed by NEW employees?

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 03:59 PM

The only tech agents that are employees of National Electronics Warranty, LLC (NEW) are the Protection Plan tech agents. NEW does not do all of DirecTV's technical troubleshooting.


I'm glad someone clarified this. We're not all like this guy!

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

"Someone" is going to have a lot more "free time" on their hands. :eek2:
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

I doubt that. To the best of my knowledge, N.E.W. agents handle all TEC calls, except for HR34 troubleshooting, and that practice ended a couple weeks ago, with N.E.W. taking over HR34 troubleshooting. So if N.E.W. doesn't handle all TEC calls, it certainly handles the lion's share.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:05 PM

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. N.E.W. does, for now, handle TEC calls. Whether it's all of them or some of them doesn't really matter. My experiences and opinions relate to that.


Fair enough.

Edited by JBv, 09 November 2012 - 11:20 AM.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:15 PM

They dont handle TEC calls for customers without the protection plan which is a whole lot of customers. So no NEW does not handle all technical calls.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:22 PM

And, if you bothered to read the above post, I acknowledged that whether NEW handles some or all tech calls doesn't matter.


You mean the post above that you've edited at least three times, including once at 8:16 after West99999 posted his comment at 8:15? Hard to have a conversation when it gets changed after the fact.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:03 AM

I doubt that. To the best of my knowledge, N.E.W. agents handle all TEC calls, except for HR34 troubleshooting, and that practice ended a couple weeks ago, with N.E.W. taking over HR34 troubleshooting.

Let's take a look at the job description for one of the job listings in the Careers section of the DirecTV website:

Job Description
Customer Service Representative- Technical-12XXXXX

Description

Responsible for taking inbound calls from customers who are having technical issues with their equipment or services. This call type requires that the CSR be able to effectively troubleshoot through a variety of technical issues in order to solve customer's problems. CSR may need to provide billing and general support of first call resolution and customer satisfaction. CSR will need to:

Meet established call center productivity and quality standards and communicate in a professional and courteous manner with customers, co-workers and site leadership.
Ask questions and actively listen for responses for the purpose of validating data and determining customer issues.
Simultaneously navigate and update various on-line tools to assist in problem-solving and updating customer's account.
Effectively follow and execute actions using scripts and guidelines located in systems.
Work with the customer, troubleshoot through a variety of options in order to solve the customer's technical issues.
Determine when a technical issue requires that a service call be scheduled and follow-through on scheduling the appointment.
Assist customers with equipment needs such as upgrading equipment.
Input data and write comments into various computer systems in order to track information on customer calls.
Look for opportunities to up-sell to the customer such as adding sports packages or updating to premium channels.
Determine when a call or certain decisions need to be escalated for further review or approval.
Work in a team environment by supporting and assisting other team members as required.
Perform required job functions while maintaining individual performance standards and site specific performance standards such as meeting or exceeding site service level goals.
Stay up-to-date on all communications, processes, procedures and general call center information in order to better assist the customer and to ensure compliance with latest processes.


Full time employees will train 40 hours per week during 5 weeks of training and then adjust to their chosen shift. Shifts after training could include evenings, late nights, overnights and weekends.


To see a video portraying this position in the DIRECTV Tulsa Customer Contact Center, click on the link below.

http://www.directv.c...deos/tulsa.html

Sounds (and looks) like the agents in Tulsa do technical troubleshooting.

I would be happy to discuss the rest of your erroneous assertions, but only in PM and only if it goes no further than PM. I've been burned before by people taking my words out of context and making public what was only to be private.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:31 AM

"Someone" is going to have a lot more "free time" on their hands. :eek2:


Apparently an innocent rep was fired for it...

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:57 AM

Apparently an innocent rep was fired for it...

I'll wait and see how this plays out, as "going" was meant as in "the future".
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:31 AM

CSR's are barely employable people that have to follow a script. Anytime you have people at that level you cannot give them any authority.

It's really a game... companies no longer wish to solve problems, just have them go away. Most people eventually give up on these carefully crafted programs and remain profitable customers.


And posters on this forum are notoriously difficult to work with. They mess around with their systems so much that they end up breaking it and then call us to fix it. Anytime you get a tinkerer that messes around on that level they start to think they know more than anyone else and become extremely difficult to work with.

It's really a game... customers no longer wish to solve problems, just have a technician come out with the latest upgrade and install it free of charge. Most of the CSRs finally give up listening to the inane ramblings, just stop responding and leave the "Expert" to solve his own problem since he knows so much.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:15 AM

I doubt that. To the best of my knowledge, N.E.W. agents handle all TEC calls, except for HR34 troubleshooting, and that practice ended a couple weeks ago, with N.E.W. taking over HR34 troubleshooting. So if N.E.W. doesn't handle all TEC calls, it certainly handles the lion's share.

http://www.directv.c...protection_plan

That certainly seems to imply N.E.W. handles the technical support.

DirecTV agents from BGI and other queues send a LOT of technical calls to N.E.W. agents for troubleshooting, and, if appropriate, delivery of replacement remotes and IRD's. If these replacements need to happen, we get those calls, no matter how many hoops the customer has jumped through, apparently with DTV's own tech agents.

In fact, this makes N.E.W.'s participation in DirecTV all the more senseless, in my opinion. It doesn't matter if the customer spent an hour troubleshooting with DirecTV's tech agents. They get to start all over again, per our marching orders. I see the notes in the account from another agent, saying issue them a replacement, and I ignore it. If I don't, I get dinged. Get it? That's how the system works.

Couldn't the DTV agents simply handle the replacement on the same call, or does the DTV tech agent send the customer to ANOTHER tech agent to go through troubleshooting AGAIN? You see, in our queue, we MUST go through troubleshooting. No troubleshoot, no replacements.

The admission by the DTV fanboi just served the opposite purpose he intended: it shows that DirecTV, at least in my view, creates unneeded hoops for the customer to get what they pay for.

And speaking of the PP, it really only benefits customers with owned equipment, ensuring a free replacement, when appropriate, for their equipment, or a free tech visit. Customers with leased equipment would get a replacement if the problem is due to failure regardless, and the only benefit to them, as far as I see it, is that the PP would pay their shipping, which the customer could get waived if it's clearly a defect, and if they yelp loudly enough. Yet N.E.W. agents are to push, push, push the PP and the PPP.

Do they see a dime of commission?

No, but I'm very sure N.E.W. gets a cut per sale. So, really, the protection plan is kind of like Best Buy's protection plans, in my opinion: packaged to look useful, but at the end of the day, just another way to pump up the bill.

If DTV doesn't farm out 100% of its tech duties (since PP is part of that), then aren't they wasting their money? Seems to me that if they're going to farm out a queue, they'd go for the gold.

Seems to me-- and it's just my opinion-- N.E.W. is more of a liability than an asset, especially since their employees call out on a whim, and cause all sorts of long wait times. It's so bad that, depending on how the "one team" brainwashing works this month, N.E.W. may find itself without DirecTV. I'd laugh if that happened...I truly would.


OK, I've had enough. I sincerely hope that the members of this board understand this guy is not a typical agent. I started a 4 or 5 page rant but realized that may not be the best approach. Rather, just let me hope I meet this guy in a dark tavern so I can punch him in the face and shove Beernuts up his nose. I hope he gets fired soon.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:25 AM

And posters on this forum are notoriously difficult to work with. They mess around with their systems so much that they end up breaking it and then call us to fix it. Anytime you get a tinkerer that messes around on that level they start to think they know more than anyone else and become extremely difficult to work with.

It's really a game... customers no longer wish to solve problems, just have a technician come out with the latest upgrade and install it free of charge. Most of the CSRs finally give up listening to the inane ramblings, just stop responding and leave the "Expert" to solve his own problem since he knows so much.


I know I've gotten frustrated when I tell the rep that I've rebooted the box, moved it to another TV and the problem followed using different cables, then the rep starts by asking me to reboot. I know there's a script, but some of us really do try the simple things before calling in. When I have a box saying it's overheating, and I say I currently have it on the floor and not in the cabinet, swapping the HDMI cable won't do anything...

That, and situations like where it took three appointments to get a CCK installed when I went to SWM and DECA (and the third tech said it would need to be rescheduled a fourth time), really gets frustrating.

Fortunately, I mostly call in about once a year to cancel HBO or something, since I can't do it myself.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:43 AM

LOL...has been for two years. Where have you been? Hint, when they say "Thank you for calling DirecTV Protection Plans, my name is Billy-Bob, and I'm located in Virginia. May I please ask who I'm speaking with?" they're not only using poor grammar, but that is the script for N.E.W.'s work at home employees. But whether at home or in a call center, that's all N.E.W.


So that's what happened to the PP CSRs, huh? I've been wondering where they got those people from. I knew the CMG was siphoning off all the good PP CSRs.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:48 AM

It may be time to let this thread fade, as there are things going on that will not be public.
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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

And posters on this forum are notoriously difficult to work with. They mess around with their systems so much that they end up breaking it and then call us to fix it. Anytime you get a tinkerer that messes around on that level they start to think they know more than anyone else and become extremely difficult to work with.

It's really a game... customers no longer wish to solve problems, just have a technician come out with the latest upgrade and install it free of charge. Most of the CSRs finally give up listening to the inane ramblings, just stop responding and leave the "Expert" to solve his own problem since he knows so much.


I believe those are conflicting statements.

If you are on here or the DTV Forum you are looking for help to solve a problem. You tinker with it trying to solve that problem and usually trying to avoid having a tech come out to fix your problem.
Yes, you do learn things here so you are not totally ignorant of how things work.

You should realize and respect the fact that all people are not problem solvers. Lots of them would get terribly aggravated and confused if they tried what most of us on here do and wind up with a bigger mess than they had to start with. Yes, those people just want to call and say come fix it. I know people that this is the case for them.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:05 PM

It may be time to let this thread fade, as there are things going on that will not be public.


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