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#51 OFFLINE   Stewart Vernon

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:07 PM

I'll bet you 30:1 that FF will survive any nonsense.

And the actual play time of a FB game is under 15 minutes.... that is, leaving out the time between whistling a dead ball and the next snap.


You mean under 15 minutes PER QUARTER, I assume... Each quarter has a timed 15 minutes of play time...

So the minimum length of any football game is 60 minutes if you skip all the commercials, halftime, and other game stoppage times.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:49 PM

You mean under 15 minutes PER QUARTER, I assume... Each quarter has a timed 15 minutes of play time...

So the minimum length of any football game is 60 minutes if you skip all the commercials, halftime, and other game stoppage times.


You're not considering all the time after plays where the clock runs but nothing is happening. It is not a big challenge to burn off a recorded game in 30-40 minutes with aggressive DVR play.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:05 PM

You're not considering all the time after plays where the clock runs but nothing is happening. It is not a big challenge to burn off a recorded game in 30-40 minutes with aggressive DVR play.


But that is still game time. If we're going to start quibbling over time spent doing nothing with the clock running, then you'd probably also skip over plays that don't gain yardage... and ultimately don't we all really only care about big-gain plays and scoring plays?

So... you could watch a highlights package in under 5 minutes for most games and get all the best/productive/scoring plays.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

You're not considering all the time after plays where the clock runs but nothing is happening. It is not a big challenge to burn off a recorded game in 30-40 minutes with aggressive DVR play.

BIG-10 and PAC-12 each run a show called Football in 60 where they do the editing for you.

bein Sports has a show called 90 in 30 ... but that form of football is much more compressible. :D

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:09 PM

You're not considering all the time after plays where the clock runs but nothing is happening. It is not a big challenge to burn off a recorded game in 30-40 minutes with aggressive DVR play.


Indeed that's what I meant. While studies have timed actual play time as closer to 12.5 minutes on average, watching a complete game in a half hour isn't hard. And that's every snap, every run, pass, fumble, field goal, etc.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:50 PM

I am not a big sports guy, but there are a couple of local college football rivalries I'll burn through. I try not to skip more than a few actual plays, though.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:00 AM

Fox is back in court. The Hollywood Reporter indicated today:

Fox Television is again making an attempt to shut down Dish Network's advertising-skipping DVR services.

The network is filing an amended lawsuit and a new injunction motion in a California federal court over Dish's Hopper with Sling, also known as "Dish Anywhere," which was introduced at CES in January.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out at the Supreme Court level.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:11 AM

The networks have lost viewership. NBC was actually the fifth watched network in the latest ratings, that has never happend to one of the big four. And the most watched shows on the the networks are all down, even if still doing well. You would think they would want their programming seen easily, not at a specific time or that you have to be in your living room.

The networks fear is tied to ratings. If you watch at another time other than the original airing, credit isn't always being given for those viewers, thus advertising revenue goes down. Nielson is looking into capturing some of those viewers.

It's worth mentioning, the Four major networks are supposed to be FREE. Again, FREE. For that they get the airwaves that TNT or USA etc do not get. And the advent of Satellite has done nothing but help them get their signal to people who otherwise might not get it. Yet they put up roadblocks to everything.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:49 PM

The networks have lost viewership. NBC was actually the fifth watched network in the latest ratings, that has never happend to one of the big four.

So which non-broadcast network beat NBC?

And isn't there another thread (in the TV forum) that is predicting the death of all broadcast because of the woes of one network?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

I'm not predicting the death of all broadcast. It looks to me like Univision is doing well. I do think the 1958 broadcast channel economic model is on life support - meaning we're all being taxed by Congressional mandate to fund a nationwide bunch of failing local broadcast channels.

That's irrelevant to this thread though, and we have a new thread Fox is attacking the Hopper, Sling Adapter and Dish Anywhere now that picks up where this one left off.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:17 PM

It's worth mentioning, the Four major networks are supposed to be FREE. Again, FREE.


That is only partially true.

They are free, via the primary broadcast method... OTA.

We can all enjoy all that OTA broadcast television via the intended free transmission method.

There is no guarantee that you will receive a watchable signal for free... only that one is being broadcast via OTA and that you are welcome to watch it if you can receive it.

Any other method by which you get the programming is not guaranteed, and you are not entitled to it for free via those other methods.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 05:43 PM

Why isn't Fox going after Directv for the Nomad?


And does anyone remember the pocket dish? Wasn't that the same thing? How come Fox didn't care about that?




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