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Possible Extra Innings Package Changes?


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#26 OFFLINE   George_T

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:02 PM

And espn game and fox blackout periods.


Tony, I think I read in the new broadcast agreements that MLB.TV will be able to show all FOX game feeds live, either next year or in 2014.

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#27 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:25 PM

Tony, I think I read in the new broadcast agreements that MLB.TV will be able to show all FOX game feeds live, either next year or in 2014.


It was clear as mud. Some blackout lifting for both but still mentioned blackouts.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:41 PM

And espn game and fox blackout periods.


Yep, forgot about those.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

I switched because I had sore arms carrying around the 55" LG:lol:

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:35 PM

i got no reason to get EI as i live in Braves territory and thats the only games i care about lol
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:15 PM

Oh. For me it sure is. I use MLB.tv for mobile purposes. The PQ is horrible for the big screen.


Spot On.

I have had both for years.

MLBTV comes in handy on the road.

PQ on EI Blows away TV.

Don't even think about MLBTV the minute I walk in the door.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:20 PM

Don't even think about MLBTV the minute I walk in the door.


The only times I have used MLB.tv on my TV is when I am looking for something specific in the archives. Like the non-no-hitter from a few years ago. Or how the announcers handled it when the guy in Texas fell and died (they didn't have a clue what happened since it was behind a wall) or a specific play I wanted to see.

Watching a GAME on that muck at home? Never.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:27 PM

The only times I have used MLB.tv on my TV is when I am looking for something specific in the archives. Like the non-no-hitter from a few years ago. Or how the announcers handled it when the guy in Texas fell and died (they didn't have a clue what happened since it was behind a wall) or a specific play I wanted to see.

Watching a GAME on that muck at home? Never.


The other day, I used MLB.TV & made a buddy sit through the game 6 collapse of the Rangers in the 2011 WS. :lol: I couldn't stop laughing.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:36 PM

The other day, I used MLB.TV & made a buddy sit through the game 6 collapse of the Rangers in the 2011 WS. :lol: I couldn't stop laughing.


He could return the favor by putting together a highlight film of the Yankee hits in the ALCS this year. Pretty short film.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:08 PM

Oh. For me it sure is. I use MLB.tv for mobile purposes. The PQ is horrible for the big screen.


Not horrible on the big screen through PS3 or Roku or similar devices. It is not as good as EI, but it is still pretty damn good. In fact if you watch the playoffs on TBS and Fox you will notice that TBS PQ is much better than Fox. I would put MLB.TV between that of TBS and FOX. It was better on my TV than FOX was through DirecTV

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

Not horrible on the big screen through PS3 or Roku or similar devices. It is not as good as EI, but it is still pretty damn good. In fact if you watch the playoffs on TBS and Fox you will notice that TBS PQ is much better than Fox. I would put MLB.TV between that of TBS and FOX. It was better on my TV than FOX was through DirecTV


I have it. It is horrible.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

I have it. It is horrible.

What device are you using? PS3, Roku, AppleTV, Boxee, XBox, or a TV APP?

If there is an issue with PQ it could be due to you not using the best streaming device (from what I hear PS3 is the best for MLB PQ), your connection is bad, your bandwidth is low, or your settings are off?

I posted video of streamed games through my PS3 and compared it to FOX (the worst PQ of all channels) and TBS (the best PQ of all channels) and most agreed that the PQ was between that of FOX and TBS. Most agreed that it was better than FOX.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:24 PM

What device are you using? PS3, Roku, AppleTV, Boxee, XBox, or a TV APP?

If there is an issue with PQ it could be due to you not using the best streaming device (from what I hear PS3 is the best for MLB PQ), your connection is bad, your bandwidth is low, or your settings are off?

I posted video of streamed games through my PS3 and compared it to FOX (the worst PQ of all channels) and TBS (the best PQ of all channels) and most agreed that the PQ was between that of FOX and TBS. Most agreed that it was better than FOX.


I have a roku and tons of bandwidth. I shouldn't have to buy a specific unit for MLB quality.

It is horrible.

I stream a lot of programming. It is among the worst. It is inconsistent and cannot handle any movement at all.

Given that this forum screamed about HD lite and argues over grass on espn, I have no idea how you can tell people MLB is good quality.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

What device are you using? PS3, Roku, AppleTV, Boxee, XBox, or a TV APP?

If there is an issue with PQ it could be due to you not using the best streaming device (from what I hear PS3 is the best for MLB PQ), your connection is bad, your bandwidth is low, or your settings are off?

I posted video of streamed games through my PS3 and compared it to FOX (the worst PQ of all channels) and TBS (the best PQ of all channels) and most agreed that the PQ was between that of FOX and TBS. Most agreed that it was better than FOX.


We have this discussion every year. :lol: You're always in the minority.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:47 PM

We have this discussion every year. :lol: You're always in the minority.


Then I must be in the privileged minority. I posted video before showing there is no difference. I posted video before and nobody could guess which came from the EI and which came from D*


Here is a video posted by someone else from 2 years ago when the PQ was much worse. I cannot upload the one I did since I am not at home. Keep in mind you are watching a video online (through YouTube) which alone denigrates the quality, and it is in 720p only. If it was uploaded in 1080P the PQ would be even better. Don't forget to select 720p before watching.

To compare the quality of the video being streamed, compare the PQ of the video to the image of the PS3 control icons and the MLB.TV menu (since these images have nothing to do with PQ quality of MLB.TV). You will see that the blur is the same, meaning the blur is due to YouTube, not MLB.TV.



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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:56 PM

Then I must be in the privileged minority. I posted video before showing there is no difference. I posted video before and nobody could guess which came from the EI and which came from D*

Here is a video posted by someone else from 2 years ago when the PQ was much worse. I cannot upload the one I did since I am not at home. Keep in mind you are watching a video online (through YouTube) which alone denigrates the quality, and it is in 720p only. If it was uploaded in 1080P the PQ would be even better. Don't forget to select 720p before watching.

To compare the quality of the video being streamed, compare the PQ of the video to the image of the PS3 control icons and the MLB.TV menu (since these images have nothing to do with PQ quality of MLB.TV). You will see that the blur is the same, meaning the blur is due to YouTube, not MLB.TV.


Sorry. Don't need any stinkin captured video from anyone on a smallish screen.

You simply have low standards or have deluded yourself because of the price difference.

MLB.tv has its selling points. PQ isn't one of them.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:56 PM

Then I must be in the privileged minority then. I posted video before showing there is no difference. I posted video before and nobody could guess which came from the EI and which came from D*


Here is a video posted by someone else from 2 years ago when the PQ was much worse. I cannot upload the one I did since I am not at home. Keep in mind you are watching a video online (through YouTube) which alone denigrates the quality, and it is in 720p only. If it was uploaded in 1080P the PQ would be even better. Don't forget to select 720p before watching.


Upload all you want, post your rants all you want, you do it every year... many of us clearly see the difference. Can't you just accept that there's many of us who prefer and can tell better VQ?
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:00 PM

Sorry. Don't need any stinkin captured video from anyone on a smallish screen.

You simply have low standards or have deluded yourself because of the price difference.

MLB.tv has its selling points. PQ isn't one of them.

Smallish screen? OK...

Take from it what you want. The image is there to see. If it is better than what you are getting, then I do not know what to tell you. If it still looks bad to you, then we have a difference of opinion about what constitutes bad.

Upload all you want, post your rants all you want, you do it every year... many of us clearly see the difference. Can't you just accept that there's many of us who prefer and can tell better VQ?

Rant? Not ranting at all. Just like you, I am simply posting what I see, my opinion, and the evidence to support it. I have posted several screen captures, and videos from my TV of both MLB.TV and EI. Perhaps I am one of the few lucky ones? Perhaps you are one of the many unfortunate ones? All I can say is the evidence I have posted clearly shows that there is not much difference from the two different sources on my TV. Perhaps I am just a lucky man?
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:00 PM

i got no reason to get EI as i live in Braves territory and thats the only games i care about lol


exactly how i feel as a Nats fan who lives in DC lol
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:00 PM

Anyway, the main point of me starting this thread was to see if there will be changes to EI. I am hoping Satracer chimes in soon. If he does know anything and is intentionally not saying anything, it could be because he cannot say anything yet.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:26 PM

I have a roku and tons of bandwidth. I shouldn't have to buy a specific unit for MLB quality.

It is horrible.

I stream a lot of programming. It is among the worst. It is inconsistent and cannot handle any movement at all.

Given that this forum screamed about HD lite and argues over grass on espn, I have no idea how you can tell people MLB is good quality.


Agreed on all fronts. I can access MLBTV via Roku or PS3.

Have plenty of bandwidth and stream quite a few other Media apps via the Roku and PS3.

MLBTV is "light years" behind MLBEI on PQ.

Like the service(MLBTV) for it's mobility and several other options.

PQ though ain't even remotely comparable.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:38 PM

Anyway, the main point of me starting this thread was to see if there will be changes to EI. I am hoping Satracer chimes in soon. If he does know anything and is intentionally not saying anything, it could be because he cannot say anything yet.


Hope some of the changes happen. Less money and more product always is good.

I doubt you will get a rise out of anyone official based on a survey. When we get closer to the season, maybe some input and possibilities.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:55 PM

He could return the favor by putting together a highlight film of the Yankee hits in the ALCS this year. Pretty short film.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:36 PM

Yeah. Wish I could subscribe. I WANT to give MLB or DirecTV my money. But, they insist on being stupid with their blackout rules. I'll pay double, due to the lack of a Philly RSN.

All I get is the At Bat app, so at least I can listen to the radio feeds. They deemed those as being acceptable to be heard anywhere.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:45 PM

Yeah. Wish I could subscribe. I WANT to give MLB or DirecTV my money. But, they insist on being stupid with their blackout rules.


Yep, same reason they no longer get my money.

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