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#151 OFFLINE   Mike Greer

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:53 PM

Try this: Instead of posting your problems to every thread, cut out posting to one thread per week. That'll save you two minutes. With half that time, one minute just before you hit the hay, go to menu-Reset, confirm, dash, and you're done.....:eek2: :D


First - you'd miss me.

Second - it would screw up recordings I have either currently running or ones that would start in the 20 minutes or so it takes to restart.

If there was a sticky at the top called 'My HRXX is freaking slow. What can I do?' then all these people starting these threads could just post there....

Or... DirecTV could fix them? I know, now I'm talking crazy!

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#152 OFFLINE   Mike Greer

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:55 PM

I know there are some with problems I don't or haven't seen, but "really" waiting 30 sec?
The only time I've ever seen anything like that was because the coffee table was in the way on my remote or I was pointing it to the back wall. :lol:


I don't typically have to wait that long... At least not since I got rid of the HR22s - then it really could be 30 seconds before I would get a response.

The only time I have to wait that long now is when the receiver just goes away for 1 to 4 or maybe even 5 minutes then comes back to life. I avoid those by restarting every week.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:03 PM

I had the slowdown and missing buttons on my HR24-100 this weekend and it turned out to be old battery's in the remote. Replaced today and it is back normal. It was not slow just missing button press.


Huh, maybe I should try replacing my batteries and moving that coffee table. Wish I would have found dbstalk sooner - I could of avoided all these troubles!:rolleyes:

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:21 PM

I don't typically have to wait that long... At least not since I got rid of the HR22s - then it really could be 30 seconds before I would get a response.

The only time I have to wait that long now is when the receiver just goes away for 1 to 4 or maybe even 5 minutes then comes back to life. I avoid those by restarting every week.

I "canned" my HR21 when I got my HR24, since I just didn't need 3 [at the time]. I just never ever had to wait as long as some here have posted. Maybe I just knew it needed a reboot and if that didn't help, it would have been throw out long ago.
A year back, I had a mover's connection and told the tech my HR20-700 [which was still working fine] wouldn't do 3D, so it was "broke". He swapped it for a HR24, which I hoped would have been the same as my friend had gotten, so I could see what type of problems he might have. Instead I got another HR24-500, but hey the price was right. :lol:
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:56 AM

My two HR24-500's respond to commands quickly about 90-95% of the time. The other 5-10%, the response is either slooooow or non-existent. The problem is most pronounced when trying to use the guide. The sloooooow / non-existent remote command response problem has NOT always existed, so it is NOT a hardware problem.

The problem will go away when senior management at DirecTV makes it clear that they want the problem solved or else (i.e.; they tell the head code monkey to solve the problem or they will find someone else to do the job).

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:59 AM

The problem will go away when senior management at DirecTV makes it clear that they want the problem solved or else (i.e.; they tell the head code monkey to solve the problem or they will find someone else to do the job).

"Yeah", I'm sure they currently just don't care. :rolleyes:
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:02 AM

I went to Channel 1 and waited for 5 minutes and then Entered Channel 360 and it worked like a Charm (this is with an HR23-700).

I don't know how often I need to go to Channel 1 but I guess I will do it first thing when I use that DVR. :D
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:14 AM

I got to channel 1 about once a week on the 2 HR24s that I control. Keeps things as fast as they are going to be.

The only place it doesn't seem to have an effect, and the sole place I've seen 30 seconds plus waiting, is when I delete shows from the playlist. Often it gives the 'refreshing playlist' or some such for quite a long while.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:17 AM

The only place it doesn't seem to have an effect, and the sole place I've seen 30 seconds plus waiting, is when I delete shows from the playlist. Often it gives the 'refreshing playlist' or some such for quite a long while.

"Delete shows", sounds like you're deleting shows from more than the local DVR, which can take a bit longer for each other receiver to report back the status.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:22 AM

I got to channel 1 about once a week on the 2 HR24s that I control. Keeps things as fast as they are going to be.

The only place it doesn't seem to have an effect, and the sole place I've seen 30 seconds plus waiting, is when I delete shows from the playlist. Often it gives the 'refreshing playlist' or some such for quite a long while.


I don't have Whole Home DVR and I get the Refreshing Playlist on my HR23 when I delete a show / program once in awhile. I haven't paid that much attention to it but it does not show it that often. It might be when I delete something that is more than 2 hours long or it could just be popping up every "X" amount of programs that you delete.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:24 AM

"Delete shows", sounds like you're deleting shows from more than the local DVR, which can take a bit longer for each other receiver to report back the status.


Sometimes yes, other times no! :)

I have 2 of the HR24s stacked on my AV rack which are for my sole use. I delete a show after I watch it and get the slow refresh and it doesn't seem to matter whether the show I'm deleting is on the one I'm controlling or across the network or not.

Of course, when I do some mass deletings I fully expect it to take a bit of time, but not for a single show deletion regardless of location.

For info, both units have more than 50% free almost all the time.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:30 AM

Sometimes yes, other times no! :)

I have 2 of the HR24s stacked on my AV rack which are for my sole use. I delete a show after I watch it and get the slow refresh and it doesn't seem to matter whether the show I'm deleting is on the one I'm controlling or across the network or not.

Of course, when I do some mass deletings I fully expect it to take a bit of time, but not for a single show deletion regardless of location.

For info, both units have more than 50% free almost all the time.

I have three, and recordings are a mix from all of them. I too see this delay sometimes.
"Maybe" it has to do with having to rebuild the whole playlist.
I guess if one turned off sharing and only had a local playlist, it might show if MRV was having any affect.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

I'd love to blame something in my 'environment' but whatever is causing trouble in my environment would also have to be in a bunch of others environments as posted in multiple threads here.

I'd push DirecTV to replace the HR24 I use the most except that I'd lose my recordings and spending $600 to dump my POS HR22s only fixed my problem until the HDGUI came out. I don't really want to go down that road again.... Besides I'd have to tell DirecTV the receiver was completely dead before they would replace it anyway - don't want to do that either. With my luck they'd send me an HR22 to replace the HR24 - I'd probably get one the 3 HR22s I sent back that they have no doubt been shipping back and forth to poor saps since I returned them to DirecTV!

What in my environment could possibly cause the HR24-500 I use the most to start losing it after about 2 weeks? The fix is just to restart it and I'm good for another 2 weeks....

You also have to remember that the slow-down of all 3 of my HR24s started with the HDGUI and the complete freezes started 4 or 5 months ago.


The 24-500s do seem to be a bit wackier than the other two models. Hard to put an external drive on them. I do like them better than the 100 or 200, but if you get a wacky one (or three.. :lol:) they can drive you crazy. When they work properly, they are very good DVRs. I think.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:49 AM

REALLY!!!

It seemed to work for me but the reason it worked is that you had to be on Channel 1 for at least 30 seconds for it to Clear the NVRAM, is this right???


I never saw any change in my HRs when I tried it, but I liked pressing all the buttons and getting a message back. Felt fulfilled, I did.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:58 AM

"I don't know" so it would be interesting to see how this works or if it doesn't.

First we need a guinea pig that has this problem.

Next we need "the pig" to see if tuning to channel one resolves "the problem".

Then try setting up one recording and then try two.


Fortunately, this little piggy has little trouble with slowness. Now if there were some trick to speed up deleting a bunch of recordings, that would be a huge help for me. I dumped about 50 episodes of a show that we didn't want the other day and it took quite a while and then the 500 was unresponsive to remote commands for a period of time, something I notice every time I delete a few episodes of something.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:06 PM

Fortunately, this little piggy has little trouble with slowness. Now if there were some trick to speed up deleting a bunch of recordings, that would be a huge help for me. I dumped about 50 episodes of a show that we didn't want the other day and it took quite a while and then the 500 was unresponsive to remote commands for a period of time, something I notice every time I delete a few episodes of something.

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I've got nothing for a 50 show delete. :eek2:
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:10 PM

I have three, and recordings are a mix from all of them. I too see this delay sometimes.
"Maybe" it has to do with having to rebuild the whole playlist.
I guess if one turned off sharing and only had a local playlist, it might show if MRV was having any affect.


Well, I have 3 also, but I only control 2 of them. My son has one that he shares, but his TV preferences really suck! :lol:

Wouldn't just filtering to show only the local list then delete accomplish the same thing as the refresh across the MRV?

But for all of that, I'm pretty used to the lack of really fast performance from D* gear, so it has been something I see, but don't think a lot about.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:13 PM

"Yeah", I'm sure they currently just don't care. :rolleyes:



Do you have any verifiable information to suggest that they do care?

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:16 PM

I've got nothing for a 50 show delete. :eek2:


I've also got about 90 episodes of Blue Bloods and even more of Hawaii Five O. Both shows I don't want to watch but the wife won't let me delete. Like she's ever gonna watch them. Sometimes the massive deletions go a lot quicker than I expect, sometimes not.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:17 PM

Do you have any verifiable information to suggest that they do care?

"verifiable"? no, but I have personal experience that does.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:33 PM

I've also got about 90 episodes of Blue Bloods and even more of Hawaii Five O. Both shows I don't want to watch but the wife won't let me delete. Like she's ever gonna watch them. Sometimes the massive deletions go a lot quicker than I expect, sometimes not.

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NOW I know why you have all those HDDVRs. You are nothing but an elitist show hog!! :lol:

I've not yet had any series get more than about a dozen episodes behind, I cannot imagine saving beyond that.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:39 PM

NOW I know why you have all those HDDVRs. You are nothing but an elitist show hog!! :lol:

I've not yet had any series get more than about a dozen episodes behind, I cannot imagine saving beyond that.

I've got a couple of folders that have exceeded a dozen. I'm playing catchup with Castle & Fringe, as I started watching them long after they first started.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:33 PM

The 24-500s do seem to be a bit wackier than the other two models. Hard to put an external drive on them. I do like them better than the 100 or 200, but if you get a wacky one (or three.. :lol:) they can drive you crazy. When they work properly, they are very good DVRs. I think.

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All three of my HR24-500s did slow down with the HDGUI but they don't all behave the same. The one I use the most is the biggest problem child.

I would attempt at getting them to replace it but the way my luck goes I'll get one of my original HR22s back! And I'm not a big fan of telling them it is dead so they will actually replace it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:46 PM

"verifiable"? no, but I have personal experience that does.


I believe you but it does seem that it is a very very low priority because a quick search here shows these complaints have been around since the beginning.

I wish we could bump it up a couple steps on the list....

They must make sure that all of management/directors etc get HR24s that work.... They must also make sure that only updates that have been out for a few months and are well tested by the public get sent out to 'those' receivers.

I can't imagine anyone with a vested interest in DirecTV being happy if they ever sit down and do a side-by-side with Dish Network receivers.

I'd think that upper management would ask why Dish Network can make such peppy receivers that cost less. At least that's has been implied in the lease vs own threads here...

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:47 PM

Fortunately, this little piggy has little trouble with slowness. Now if there were some trick to speed up deleting a bunch of recordings, that would be a huge help for me. I dumped about 50 episodes of a show that we didn't want the other day and it took quite a while and then the 500 was unresponsive to remote commands for a period of time, something I notice every time I delete a few episodes of something.

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Wow!:grin:




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