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#26 OFFLINE   PCampbell

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:25 PM

I look at the programming as that is why we watch. DirecTV is better for sports and Dish looks better for movies. Look at the packages and pick the one that is best for you.

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#27 OFFLINE   harsh

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:38 PM

I miss the days when other manufacturers created DIRECTV boxes, like RCA and Sony.

DIRECTV's boxes are manufactured mostly by Pace and Samsung with a few from Thomson (Technicolor/RCA).

The main issue is probably the software as updating the software seems to impact all of the different models.

The way that hardware is changing and new features are rolling out, it isn't the same as it was for the first ten years where any box was more or less as serviceable as any other.

The basic chipsets are pretty similar between DIRECTV and DISH. DISH seems to have significantly more discipline with respect to their software.

While they would probably never admit to missing some of the fancy features, the TiVotees don't seem to be complaining about the performance of the THR-22 versus the almost universal complaints about the HR-2[1-3].

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 02:45 PM

I look at the programming as that is why we watch. DirecTV is better for sports and Dish looks better for movies.

It is imperative to not paint each with too broad a brush. Each has a few surprises that the other should have but mysteriously doesn't carry.

Tomorrow, for example, DIRECTV customers on the Wet Coast won't be able to use their service to watch the Civil War football game on the Pac-12 network but most DISH customers will.

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#29 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 05:42 PM

Do you have a link to these facts?


List a single 1080i channel offered by Dish in its full resolution.
DTV = Digital Television

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:53 PM

List a single 1080i channel offered by Dish in its full resolution.


You're right - Dish apparently down samples 1920x1080 to 1440x1080. I have to tell you though, after recently moving from FiOS to Dish, the HD on Dish looks very, very good to me - surprisingly so in fact.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Lite

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 01:05 PM

List a single 1080i channel offered by Dish in its full resolution.


List a single channel where the difference is actually noticeable.

I also have multiple pro. calibrated sets and theres hardly a difference, many other people who arent biased have also noted the difference isnt big enough to make a fuss over.

This has been the only point you have ever made in all of these vs threads and its funny thats its practically not a point at all lol.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 01:15 PM

List a single channel where the difference is actually noticeable.

I also have multiple pro. calibrated sets and theres hardly a difference, many other people who arent biased have also noted the difference isnt big enough to make a fuss over.

This has been the only point you have ever made in all of these vs threads and its funny thats its practically not a point at all lol.


Noticeable? Every single 1080i channel. Unless you're among the crowd who believe DVD-quality is good enough, that the original release of Patton on blu-ray looked great, and a Vizio LCD is a high quality display.

DirecTV has superior HD picture quality.
DirecTV has substantially more HD channels.
DirecTV is far better at retaining existing HD channels.
DirecTV's equipment/technology/features do not go hand-in-hand with lawsuits, theft, and various unethical business practices...a frequent occurrence with Dish Network.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 02:01 PM

I'll give you convinced.

Other than that, feel free to repeat the mantra that few believe.

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#34 OFFLINE   Inkosaurus

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 02:09 PM

DirecTV has superior HD picture quality.

Acting as if the difference in quality between is so huge its worth noting.
Again the difference in quality is slight, not large.

DirecTV has substantially more HD channels.

Maybe more Sports in HD, but aside from that non-sports fans wont care.
On the national channel HD listings there about the same with a slight advantage to Dish.

DirecTV is far better at retaining existing HD channels.

Acting as if Dtv never has disputes either, IIRC you guys lost viacom stuff for a month not to long ago right? Every company has negotiation issues, this is not exclusive to either Dish or Dtv.

DirecTV's equipment/technology/features do not go hand-in-hand with lawsuits, theft, and various unethical business practices...a frequent occurrence with Dish Network.


This is probably the only ounce of unbiased truth that isnt riddled in semantic bs you have said all day good job :)

I have no preference for either company I love them both to death honestly (i.e. im never going back to cable as long as there both around).
At the end of the day the differences like "picture quality" arent really differences at all except to people with pro calibrated tv's and even then its not a difference that they care about.

When deciding between the two you have to ignore the fan boys who pretend Dtv is apparently in 4k resolution and just look at the channel listings+ the receiver features and choose based off that.
Everything else is a nonpoint.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 02:36 PM

Acting as if the difference in quality between is so huge its worth noting.
Again the difference in quality is slight, not large.

Typical response from a sub of an inferior service.

Maybe more Sports in HD, but aside from that non-sports fans wont care.
On the national channel HD listings there about the same with a slight advantage to Dish.


False. More in both categories. Also, those sports channels are national HD channels.

Acting as if Dtv never has disputes either, IIRC you guys lost viacom stuff for a month not to long ago right? Every company has negotiation issues, this is not exclusive to either Dish or Dtv.


DirecTV resolves their disputes. The Viacom issue!was was resolved in the blink of any eye compared to Dish's efforts. DirecTV has a much better track record.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 02:47 PM

Typical response from a sub of an inferior service.

I have both services running at the same time for over a year. Unlike you my posts arent based off of speculation.

False. More in both categories. Also, those sports channels are national HD channels.


More semantics. A non-sports fan could argue that the non-sports HD listing is very similar with both services having a fairly equal amount of HD channels. The difference being in a few that are on HD in one but not the other.
(Thus why its always suggested to see the listing before hand, as there both incredibly similar to non-sports fans).

DirecTV resolves their disputes. The Viacom issue!was was resolved in the blink of any eye compared to Dish's efforts. DirecTV has a much better track record.


Aside from the actual Voom channels and MSG that were lost I cant think of many/any Dish negotiations that were not resolved.
Though ultimately you are correct Dtv has the better track record when it comes to this.
How ever its not like either provider is stuck without multiple networks for long stretches of times.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 02:54 PM

I have both services running at the same time for over a year. Unlike you my posts arent based off of speculation.


My post are not based off of speculation.

More semantics. A non-sports fan could argue that the non-sports HD listing is very similar with both services having a fairly equal amount of HD channels. The difference being in a few that are on HD in one but not the other.
(Thus why its always suggested to see the listing before hand, as there both incredibly similar to non-sports fans).


Not semantics. Facts.

Aside from the actual Voom channels and MSG that were lost I cant think of many/any Dish negotiations that were not resolved.
Though ultimately you are correct Dtv has the better track record when it comes to this.
How ever its not like either provider is stuck without multiple networks for long stretches of times.


False. Apparently you have some research to conduct.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 02:57 PM

Nope.
If you have something to say post links to the source of your claims, im not going to go googling for you :D

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

List a single 1080i channel offered by Dish in its full resolution.

I'm asking you for a link and you're giving me the DIRECTV apologist "conventional wisdom".

The other side of your specious argument is that resolution <> quality. You can have a 1920x1080 signal that is passing only 2GB/hour that will surely look a lot worse than a 1440x1080 signal at the same or higher rate.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

Typical response from a sub of an inferior service.


Superiority, much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. For me, I much prefer Dish's technology, and they have more of the HD channels that I care about (H2, HLN, Cartoon Network, EPIX, etc). Yes, it would be nice to have Sunday Ticket. I had it for 4 or 5 years but it is simply too expensive nowadays for my tastes. I'll "suffer" with national broadcasts, NFL RedZone, and the local Steelers bar.

I was worried about the HD PQ with Dish but I'm glad that it was a needless concern.

It's good that you're happy with DIRECTV, but that doesn't mean that you should insult others' preferred provider as being "inferior". That's merely your opinion based on your own unique tastes. You have a point about resolution. I and others have a point about the sluggish DIRECTV UI. And there are points to be made on both sides about programming. It's all about what's important to the individual.

Edited by Reaper, 25 November 2012 - 01:57 PM.


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Posted 25 November 2012 - 05:47 PM

I will admit to bias - I've been a DirecTv customer for 17 years, long before I started working for them. I have family members that have defected to Dish, and I honestly think I've a better HD picture. I have 2 HR24s and a HR34with client and they work seamlessly most of the time. No one I know has a Hopper for me to compare it to.
I WILL say that I have called customer service for the competitor, on behalf of my 83 year old aunt, enough to have created an opinion, and yes, I think DirecTV does it better.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 06:53 PM

Congratulations, you fanbois of both providers have been pwned by a hit-and-run threadstarter.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:24 PM

Is there a current channel listing, say in an xls file somewhere on the web of the two?
I have a feeling there isn't a significant difference between the two. I'm not a sports fan so the occasional game I might want to watch is probably on a local or ESPN anyway.
Now the hardware ill need to do a lot more research on. I'm out of contract and dish vip722 is an awful box. My dtv hr20 was no fuss, get the job done.
So these new DVR multi recorders are completely new to me, so guessing I'm going to pay whether I switch back to dtv or just upgrade with dish.
Advice and input is appreciated

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:44 PM

I don't believe anyone has bothered to maintain a complete channel comparison. I started one for all channels a few years ago and gave up quickly. I still maintain a HD channel comparison but it needs updated.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

I wanted to do that, too. Both companies don't seem to offer a listing that pastes nicely into a spreadsheet.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 05:19 PM

It's as if our friendly satellite providers wish to obfuscate their offerings...
An HDTV only list would just about do. I've been on HD for six or seven years and if it ain't on HD, I'm not likely to put it in my lineup.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

DirecTV & DISH Network HD Channel Lineup Comparison

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:47 AM

I don't believe anyone has bothered to maintain a complete channel comparison. I started one for all channels a few years ago and gave up quickly. I still maintain a HD channel comparison but it needs updated.


I look at the programming as that is why we watch. DirecTV is better for sports and Dish looks better for movies. Look at the packages and pick the one that is best for you.


Hardly. While DirecTV doesn't offer Epix, Dish does not offer all of the Cinemax or Showtime channels. And Cinemax and Showtime is a better offer than Epix. DirecTV is the winner in sports and programming.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:11 AM

Hardly. While DirecTV doesn't offer Epix, Dish does not offer all of the Cinemax or Showtime channels. And Cinemax and Showtime is a better offer than Epix. DirecTV is the winner in sports and programming.


While the first part of your comment is factually true, the latter is solely your opinion.

Yes Dish doesn't have all the Cinemax & Showtime channels, but I haven't noticed that causing movies to be missed. In general, almost all the movies will show on all the channels of Sho&Max that the missing ones have.

And Epix is a great movie addition as it has movies from studios that don't show up on the others.

D* & E* are literally 2 pods in the same pea overall, with slight emphasis one way or the other outside of sports.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:29 AM

Do you have a link to these facts?

No he doesn't ! LOL

He considers anything that comes out of his mouth to be facts.:lol:



I've had both, and the difference is minimal at best.

And quite honestly, Directvs HD PQ , has been looking softer lately IMO.

It doesn't have that Snap it once had. So maybe Directv is packing TP's to the max?

Just doesn't seem as impressive lately.

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