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#51 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 04:51 PM

Yes Dish doesn't have all the Cinemax & Showtime channels, but I haven't noticed that causing movies to be missed. In general, almost all the movies will show on all the channels of Sho&Max that the missing ones have.

And Epix is a great movie addition as it has movies from studios that don't show up on the others.

That is a good point ... the studio contracts limiting movies to one outlet means those movies will not be seen on other outlets ... regardless of the number of channels they have. Multiple channels means more movies can be shown at the same time and some themes can be followed (with most movies making it on the main channels occasionally or at least on a different theme channel) ... but if Cinemax or Showtime doesn't have the rights they don't have the movies.

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#52 OFFLINE   domingos35

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:13 PM

Hardly. While DirecTV doesn't offer Epix, Dish does not offer all of the Cinemax or Showtime channels. And Cinemax and Showtime is a better offer than Epix. DirecTV is the winner in sports and programming.


Cinemax and Showtime are better offers than Epix ?
what are u smoking?
And the Epix channels are included at no extra cost whereas Cinemax and Showtime cost an arm and 2 legs

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:29 PM

I turn off showtime after tonight for another year. Dexter and Homeland finales tonight. I've had Netflix since the 20th century, so movies are old by the time any premiums get them. GOOD movies are a great rarity these days anyway...

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:48 AM

Does Dish or DTV offer MSG channel to customers not in the New York area? Knicks fan here, unfortunately Charter Cable does not offer NBA League pass.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:51 AM

Does Dish or DTV offer MSG channel to customers not in the New York area? Knicks fan here, unfortunately Charter Cable does not offer NBA League pass.


You'd need NBA League Pass for Knicks games where you are. DirecTV carries MSG, Dish doesn't. However, the games will be blacked out without LP.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:51 AM

Does Dish or DTV offer MSG channel to customers not in the New York area? Knicks fan here, unfortunately Charter Cable does not offer NBA League pass.


DirecTV has MSG, Dish Network does not. It's offered as an RSN and for use with various sports packages.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:42 AM

Cinemax and Showtime are better offers than Epix ?
what are u smoking?
And the Epix channels are included at no extra cost whereas Cinemax and Showtime cost an arm and 2 legs


Not true. EPIX 1/2/3 are only available with DISH either on the BB@H package for $10 or a stand-alone with EPIX Drive-in for $7 a month. Drive-In is added at no additional in the Top 250 only. So, with current promos, I can get Showtime cheaper for 6 months and have more variety (8 unique feeds in SHO) than the 4 EPIX feeds.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:43 PM

I've been on Centurylink Prism for two years after bailing on DirecTV after my frustration with things not working like I wanted. It's been a while since I've been around.

Prism has been unable to increase the number of simultaneous HD channels above one since October 2011. It's a distance limitation for my house, since i'm not able to move I keep asking, and keep getting told soon. It isn't a *huge* deal except every spring and every fall the stupid networks move their shows around and inevitably shows get missed because Prism can't resolve conflicts and/or step down to SD when HD is unavailable. I'm not home a lot so DVR recording getting missed over a HD conflict ticks me off, and it happened again with the new mid season stuff. So, I'm debating switching away.

So I'm back and looking at Dish and DirecTV again. Since I can't go anywhere and look at either of these DVRs and play on my own I'm busy trying to find good side by sides in comparison.

Couple things I can't find the answer for:

Dish:

1) The PrimeTime + 2 Streams recording. If one of the shows I want to make sure is recorded is in prime time, does it consume one of my two streams?

2) Is hopper smart enough to know that the show comes on again in two/three hours and isn't a repeat, and if there is a conflict at an earlier time to record teh later time?

3) How many satellite dish are needed for a hopper + Joey

4) Is the satellite in the same general spot as the DirecTV Satellite ( MY home owners get whiney if you can see the dish, I have an exception for where the old satellite is. Would be nice if it doesn't point say 180 in the opposite direction or on other side of house.

5) What cable type is used to feed the box and how many. What are the ethernet ports used for

6) Pretty clear that if I want any Disney property in HD it's a non-starter with this provider, is that still true/has a resolution been reached or is the multi-year saga still ongoing?

7) Is there anything I can't do from the Joey?

DirecTV:

1) Is their DVR still limited to 50 season passes?

2) Are all shows HD if it's recording more than two at a time?

3) How many satellite dish are needed for Genie + Two Mobile TVs

4) What cabling is used to feed the DVR box and how many. What are the ethernet ports used for

5) Is there anything I can't do from the remote box?

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:14 AM

DirecTV has MSG, Dish Network does not. It's offered as an RSN and for use with various sports packages.

A non-answer.

DIRECTV offers MSG to out-of-market subscribers through the $12.99 Sports Pack (unless blacked out for sometimes mysterious reasons). Another alternative would be the $99 NBA League Pass that could also be subject to inexplicable blackout.

DISH claims to offer the Knicks only to in-market viewers through the NBA League Pass package. It seems like it should be the other way around.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:24 AM

Some answers inline:

Dish:

1) The PrimeTime + 2 Streams recording. If one of the shows I want to make sure is recorded is in prime time, does it consume one of my two streams?

PrimeTime is only for the big 4 broadcast stations, so during prime time if you have it turned on it uses 1 tuner to record them leaving you 2 tuners to record/watch.


2) Is hopper smart enough to know that the show comes on again in two/three hours and isn't a repeat, and if there is a conflict at an earlier time to record teh later time?

Once you have your series links setup I've found that it is very good at picking up on conflicts and getting the episode recorded assuming it is repeated. In general the 'cable' type channels repeat incessantly, so picking them up is easy.

3) How many satellite dish are needed for a hopper + Joey

Usually just one.

4) Is the satellite in the same general spot as the DirecTV Satellite ( MY home owners get whiney if you can see the dish, I have an exception for where the old satellite is. Would be nice if it doesn't point say 180 in the opposite direction or on other side of house.

Depends on your location. In markets that use the western arc, the Dish dish is pointing in the same general direction, SW. But for other markets, it is pointing SE.

5) What cable type is used to feed the box and how many. What are the ethernet ports used for

1 wire to each receiver, should be RG6.
The ethernet port is used to get the system on the internet, or if you get a Hopper w/Sling you can accomplish the same thing wirelessly and it will share the internet access with other Hoppers/Joeys in the system

6) Pretty clear that if I want any Disney property in HD it's a non-starter with this provider, is that still true/has a resolution been reached or is the multi-year saga still ongoing?

Who knows? It is tied up with the lawsuit.

7) Is there anything I can't do from the Joey?

can't answer as I have a 2 Hopper only system.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:39 AM

[quote name='Trekkie']Couple things I can't find the answer for:[/quote]It doesn't appear that you put much effort into finding answers[quote]Dish:

1) The PrimeTime + 2 Streams recording. If one of the shows I want to make sure is recorded is in prime time, does it consume one of my two streams?[/quote]All prime time, big-four shows are recorded on the one tuner. If the program is not on the big-four, one of the other two tuners will be tapped.[quote]2) Is hopper smart enough to know that the show comes on again in two/three hours and isn't a repeat, and if there is a conflict at an earlier time to record teh later time?[/quote]As long as you don't tell the Hopper that you want to see new shows only.[quote]3) How many satellite dish are needed for a hopper + Joey[/quote]One.[quote]4) Is the satellite in the same general spot as the DirecTV Satellite ( MY home owners get whiney if you can see the dish, I have an exception for where the old satellite is. Would be nice if it doesn't point say 180 in the opposite direction or on other side of house.[/quote]All satellites reside over the Equator so you're never going to be pointing North. DISH has two configurations that are on either side of the DIRECTV contellation.[quote]5) What cable type is used to feed the box and how many.[/quote]RG6 with standard shielding, one cable per STB.[quote]What are the ethernet ports used for[/quote]TCP/IP networking (or Joey connection absent a coax).[quote]6) Pretty clear that if I want any Disney property in HD it's a non-starter with this provider, is that still true/has a resolution been reached or is the multi-year saga still ongoing?[/quote]Ongoing.[quote]7) Is there anything I can't do from the Joey?[/quote]PIP.[quote]DirecTV:

1) Is their DVR still limited to 50 season passes?[/quote]The Genie supports 100[quote]2) Are all shows HD if it's recording more than two at a time?[/quote]All five can be HD as the advertising makes abundantly clear.[quote]3) How many satellite dish are needed for Genie + Two Mobile TVs[/quote]One. The Genie itself does NOT support "mobile" TVs but using the Genie Client, it can support up to three other TVs at once.[quote]4) What cabling is used to feed the DVR box and how many.[/quote]One RG6 cable for each box.[quote] What are the ethernet ports used for[/quote]Connection of the Genie to the Internet.[quote]5) Is there anything I can't do from the remote box?[/QUOTE]PIP.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:03 AM

A non-answer.

DIRECTV offers MSG to out-of-market subscribers through the $12.99 Sports Pack (unless blacked out for sometimes mysterious reasons). Another alternative would be the $99 NBA League Pass that could also be subject to inexplicable blackout.

DISH claims to offer the Knicks only to in-market viewers through the NBA League Pass package. It seems like it should be the other way around.


My answer was perfectly fine. Dish Network refuses to carry any RSN's for the largest DMA in the country, while DirecTV carries all of them.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:00 PM

That is why if sports is your top reason you go with directv. There is nothing that dish has that I do not. I use to be a DISH customer but saw the light and wow it is great.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

There is nothing that dish has that I do not.

You have Pac-12 Network?

No provider has every channel.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:48 AM

You have Pac-12 Network?

No provider has every channel.

Wow great channel.:lol:

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:53 AM

You have Pac-12 Network?

No provider has every channel.

OK PAC 12 just like longhorn if I can see the games on other channels then no I am not missing anything. Now dish you miss every nfl game and here in a few weeks I'll be watching 4 plus channels for the masters and you will be stuck with tiger all day.I switched from dish because they suck when it comes to sports.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:18 AM

While D* does a bang up job with sports, you don't miss 'every NFL game' with Dish either.

And no, Dish doesn't suck for sports they just aren't in love with them! :)

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:21 PM

While D* does a bang up job with sports, you don't miss 'every NFL game' with Dish either.

And no, Dish doesn't suck for sports they just aren't in love with them! :)

Fine if you like your local NFL team that's great but I live in Atlanta and do not what so ever like them. Just like I need NHLCI and MLBEI to watch my saint Louis teams.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:36 PM

Your claim was not that DirecTV is not better than DISH it was, as quoted:

There is nothing that dish has that I do not.

I can give other examples, but since you mentioned sports that seemed to be the best one. You, as many have done before, can try to minimalise the content that you do not have ... but the fact remains. No provider has every channel. Even well respected DirecTV employees will tell you that. :)

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:42 PM

Your claim was not that DirecTV is not better than DISH it was, as quoted:I can give other examples, but since you mentioned sports that seemed to be the best one. You, as many have done before, can try to minimalise the content that you do not have ... but the fact remains. No provider has every channel. Even well respected DirecTV employees will tell you that. :)


True, no provider has them all. DirecTV does however have more than Dish...while also delivering superior picture quality.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:47 PM

Your claim was not that DirecTV is not better than DISH it was, as quoted:I can give other examples, but since you mentioned sports that seemed to be the best one. You, as many have done before, can try to minimalise the content that you do not have ... but the fact remains. No provider has every channel. Even well respected DirecTV employees will tell you that. :)

I give you sports an all dish people say we have more programs well name 1 that I can not see that is in the top 250. From ncis to house hunters, wwe just give me one show that EVERYONE wants to watch. As I tell everyone if you want sports then DirecTV is the only way to go. But if you dont care about sports then heck you can go with anyone . oh and last time I checked dish was top 5 for worst company's to work for.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:49 PM

True, no provider has them all. DirecTV does however have more than Dish...while also delivering superior picture quality.

Wait just a minute I remember 1 station we do not get and my parents that have dish do and that is the earth channel 24-7-365 of nothing but looking at the earth.

I might just think about switching back. NOT

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:54 PM

Wait just a minute I remember 1 station we do not get and my parents that have dish do and that is the earth channel 24-7-365 of nothing but looking at the earth.

Unfortunately the EARTH channel ended on October 31st, 2012. The camera was available under an experimental license. It was interesting to see the world from a different perspective.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:08 PM

Unfortunately the EARTH channel ended on October 31st, 2012. The camera was available under an experimental license. It was interesting to see the world from a different perspective.

Well then never mind.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

The thing that gets to me is the football player not going to be named by me is saying how good xfinity is but all they got is red zone.

Perhaps he is one of the people who don't want to watch every game. RedZone is a nice way to see what is going on in all games around the country without spending hundreds of dollars. Perhaps the unnamed football player can afford hundreds of dollars ... many people can't. Perhaps he really doesn't want to watch the boring parts of the game and just wants to see every score.

RedZone for a few dollars per month fills a need.




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