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#21 ONLINE   TMan

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:43 AM

I just got two HD TV's. I am never going to get the HD service as long as these fees are tacked on. It just smacks of greed to me. I'm not that spoiled that I have to have HD or that perfect picture all the time. I'll just live without it. I have lived without for nearly 50 years. So I guess I can live without for another 30 or 40 years. If DTV can promise me they will waive the fee for me forever I will get it. But until then they can keep it along with their greed ridden fees.


You are indeed missing out!

I understand your frustration with the fees, but it's a bit pertinacious to acquire two new HDTVs in the year 2012 and then refuse to connect them to the optimal type of signal they're designed for, especially when you already subscribe to pay television service. I hope you're at least giving them some OTA locals to see HD some of the time. ;)

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#22 OFFLINE   Cyber36

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:29 AM

How spoiled are we?

Satellite and cable are entirely dessert. Don't want dessert? Throw an antenna on your roof and pick up OTA for free.

I'm pointing at myself as much as anyone, but none of us has to pay anything for television service. It's not water, power, garbage, sewer or groceries. It's just funny how we all feel some sense of entitlement.


Um, free tv is now transmitted in HD.........:nono2:

#23 OFFLINE   spartanstew

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:19 PM

Um, free tv is now transmitted in HD.........:nono2:


Um, his post doesn't mention anything to the contrary.........:nono2:

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:43 PM

I just got two HD TV's. I am never going to get the HD service as long as these fees are tacked on. It just smacks of greed to me. I'm not that spoiled that I have to have HD or that perfect picture all the time. I'll just live without it. I have lived without for nearly 50 years. So I guess I can live without for another 30 or 40 years. If DTV can promise me they will waive the fee for me forever I will get it. But until then they can keep it along with their greed ridden fees.


But on the flip side, if you didn't have HD TV's, and the HD fee wasn't added on, how would you feel if you couldn't get an SD only discount? And if they did offer an SD only discount, then HD customers would feel that they were paying more, essentially an extra fee, for HD. No matter what, someone won't be happy.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:12 PM

Um, free tv is now transmitted in HD.........:nono2:


There is no such thing as free tv anymore. Pay subscribers are the ones who are subsidizing the local channels now. If every provider stopped carrying locals and made customers get them through OTA the affiliates would go bankrupt. They couldn't live off their commercial revenue alone unless they jacked the cost of advertising up to a degree where most local companies wouldn't be able to do it. They also didn't do this to be nice they did it because it was better for them.

All MMVPD charge for HD in some capacity.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:05 PM

That's one of the reasons I try as best I can to hold on to my grandfathered Premiere package with the waived DVR charge, but even with that don't know how much longer I can do so with the annual cost increases in other areas.

Same thoughts here.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:19 AM

What he means is, the traditional majors (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, PBS) can be still be obtained in fantastic HD for nothing more than the cost of hooking up an antenna. Of course pay TV is subsidizing, but that doesn't change the fact that OTA still remains available and free to anyone wanting to pluck it from the air.

There is no such thing as free tv anymore. Pay subscribers are the ones who are subsidizing the local channels now. If every provider stopped carrying locals and made customers get them through OTA the affiliates would go bankrupt. They couldn't live off their commercial revenue alone unless they jacked the cost of advertising up to a degree where most local companies wouldn't be able to do it. They also didn't do this to be nice they did it because it was better for them.

All MMVPD charge for HD in some capacity.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:09 AM

You are indeed missing out!

I understand your frustration with the fees, but it's a bit pertinacious to acquire two new HDTVs in the year 2012 and then refuse to connect them to the optimal type of signal they're designed for, especially when you already subscribe to pay television service. I hope you're at least giving them some OTA locals to see HD some of the time. ;)

When I got my first HD set a few years ago, it took about two days to determine that my old SD TiVo Series 2 wasn't going to cut it any longer.



The only reasons I bought HD's was that they were at a very good price and it seemed to be about the only choice. I can live without it as long as those fees apply or DTV forces me to do it one day. I suspect someday HD will be the only choice.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:13 PM

[quote name='JeffBowser']What he means is, the traditional majors (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, PBS) can be still be obtained in fantastic HD for nothing more than the cost of hooking up an antenna./QUOTE]

Assuming you are close enough to the transmitters to get a good signal on those channels. Even with an amplified rooftop antenna, I can get only two of the major networks with a decent signal.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:19 PM

Until someone can show me stats that HD penetration has reached over 50% of the population, or at least of the population that has a tv, then its not standard yet so noone is "entitled" to not pay the premium for it. Currently, I don't believe there is a provider that HD is not considered the premium service line and are in some way charging the customer more for it. Sure some are offering a new customer promotion or as a discount offer for HD, but every provider is charging you extra for it somehow. I don't want to pay it either, but the ridiculousness of having an HD tv and not subscribing to HD service from a provider because you feel it should be included, I have no kind words I can even say to describe it....

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:28 PM

I would substitute "penetration" with "availability". You know, one can lead a horse to water, etc, etc....

Also, I thought, from conversations up here, that Dish had done away with their version of "HD Access" fee ?

Until someone can show me stats that HD penetration has reached over 50% of the population, or at least of the population that has a tv, then its not standard yet so noone is "entitled" to not pay the premium for it. Currently, I don't believe there is a provider that HD is not considered the premium service line and are in some way charging the customer more for it. Sure some are offering a new customer promotion or as a discount offer for HD, but every provider is charging you extra for it somehow. I don't want to pay it either, but the ridiculousness of having an HD tv and not subscribing to HD service from a provider because you feel it should be included, I have no kind words I can even say to describe it....


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