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#1 OFFLINE   jeret

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:34 PM

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#2 OFFLINE   jdspencer

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:41 PM

That's interesting.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:46 PM

Impressive.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:57 PM

Just finnished this, got an email from SS!
It is impressive, but still they can't get a DVR to function without any glitches.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:15 PM

Just finnished this, got an email from SS!
It is impressive, but still they can't get a DVR to function without any glitches.

It is indeed impressive.

Come on over and see me...I'll show you 3 HD DVRs running recording and playing back just fine here. Better yet...forget I said anything. :D
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#6 OFFLINE   TMan

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:49 PM

That was an interesting read.

Seeing the size and scope of such an operation is impressive.

Is the equivalent Dish Network facility in Colorado?
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:22 PM

That was an interesting read.

Seeing the size and scope of such an operation is impressive.

Is the equivalent Dish Network facility in Colorado?


Dish's uplink facility is in Cheyenne, Wyoming.

And the LA center isn't DirecTV's only one. Edit: DirecTV's second broadcast center is in Castle Rock, Colorado

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:32 PM

Anyone who assumes another provider is ready to offer Sunday Ticket in place of DirecTV should read that.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

:confused:

Anyone who assumes another provider is ready to offer Sunday Ticket in place of DirecTV should read that.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:50 PM

http://forums.solids...f705fa8d7730d6


Very Impressive. Thanks for sharing.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:01 PM

Yeah that's some article. Interesting.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:17 PM

:confused:

Anyone who assumes another provider is ready to offer Sunday Ticket in place of DirecTV should read that.

He's referring to the 9th post of that thread. Sunday ticket isn't just passing the raw CBS and Fox network feeds, there's also inserting promos during the local breaks so you don't see the test pattern that's on the raw feed, producing the red zone channel, controlling the mix channel (and the scores under each box), as well as monitoring reports from every CBS and Fox and affiliate in the country when they change games to control which markets are blacked out.

(i.e. home markets getting a late game while the rest of the country is remaining with the early game which just went into overtime, or affiliates that have no ties to the teams playing switching to another game if the game they initially picked is a blow out or there's a better game that's tied in the 3rd quarter)

It isn't like other packages like Extra Innings, League Pass, Center Ice and Direct Kick where all you have to keep track of is where the headend is and what RSN territories cover the systems served by the headend. MSG isn't randomly going to switch to a Lakers game after the Knicks finish, FSN Detroit won't switch to a Dodgers game after the Tigers finish.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:28 PM

He's referring to the 9th post of that thread. Sunday ticket isn't just passing the raw CBS and Fox network feeds, there's also inserting promos during the local breaks so you don't see the test pattern that's on the raw feed, producing the red zone channel, controlling the mix channel (and the scores under each box), as well as monitoring reports from every CBS and Fox and affiliate in the country when they change games to control which markets are blacked out.

(i.e. home markets getting a late game while the rest of the country is remaining with the early game which just went into overtime, or affiliates that have no ties to the teams playing switching to another game if the game they initially picked is a blow out or there's a better game that's tied in the 3rd quarter)

It isn't like other packages like Extra Innings, League Pass, Center Ice and Direct Kick where all you have to keep track of is where the headend is and what RSN territories cover the systems served by the headend. MSG isn't randomly going to switch to a Lakers game after the Knicks finish, FSN Detroit won't switch to a Dodgers game after the Tigers finish.

Thanks that would make sence.

But just so we are all aware, Directv has Always Since Day one had control of sunday ticket. No other provider has ever had it.
So naturally they would have a lot invested into something they have spent Billions on since 1994.

That doesn't mean other providers couldn't produce a sunday ticket out of a National televised games, if the exclusive rights are no longer.

And with more National Live games then ever, I wouldn't be surprised if after 2014, we will be seeing a very different NFL/ Directv exclusive

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:10 PM

If the NFL decided to open it up to other providers, they would very likely take on the production of the feeds. They have the resources to do so, I don't think it would be a huge problem for them (especially since they'd very easily be able to get the raw productions of each game from Fox/CBS instead of having to rely on skimming local channels' broadcasts)

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:12 PM

It will remain a single provider exclusive and there is no way DirecTV will let it get away.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:15 PM

It will remain a single provider exclusive and there is no way DirecTV will let it get away.


Sure there's a way. If the NFL thinks they can make more money by opening it up to multiple providers, they will. There will eventually be a maximum price DirecTV is willing to pay, because they have to remain competitive with cable and Dish, and NFL:ST subs won't want to pay thousands of dollars per season

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:28 PM

It's not exclusive in Canada and the laws can change so it can't be directv only.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:41 PM

Sure there's a way. If the NFL thinks they can make more money by opening it up to multiple providers, they will. There will eventually be a maximum price DirecTV is willing to pay, because they have to remain competitive with cable and Dish, and NFL:ST subs won't want to pay thousands of dollars per season


The NFL wants to protect their broadcast partners. One provider...that's it. Other providers have been able to bid in the past. It is DirecTV's golden goose. They pay $4 billion for it and will continue to outbid everyone in the industry.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:42 PM

Sure there's a way. If the NFL thinks they can make more money by opening it up to multiple providers, they will. There will eventually be a maximum price DirecTV is willing to pay, because they have to remain competitive with cable and Dish, and NFL:ST subs won't want to pay thousands of dollars per season

Agree, Like I said there far less games on NFL Sunday Ticket now, then there ever has been. Thats going to mean something to Directv and its customers .

Directv isn't going to see the value is spending Billion on something thats quite frankly, NOT really exclusive IMO.

I've had Dish and Cable, both had Red Zone.
Plus the now 13 games on NFL network.
NBC has 18 with Thanksgiving Night.
ESPN has 17 with their 2 monday night games week one. And Saturday Night game.
And 2 Thanksgiving day games.

3 local games every sunday for 17 weeks


You don't need ST to see any of these.

101 games you don't need Sunday Ticket for.:eek2:

Thats almost a Quarter of the season that everyone without ST can watch out of market games. Add red zone channels, and they can catch their teams mainly important plays.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:43 PM

It's not exclusive in Canada and the laws can change so it can't be directv only.


They have no network broadcast partners in Canada to worry about or rely on.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:45 PM

Agree, Like I said there far less games on NFL Sunday Ticket now, then there ever has been. Thats going to mean something to Directv and its customers .

Directv isn't going to see the value is spending Billion on something thats quite frankly, NOT really exclusive IMO.

I've had Dish and Cable, both had Red Zone.
Plus the now 13 games on NFL network.
NBC has 18 with Thanksgiving Night.
ESPN has 17 with their 2 monday night games week one. And Saturday Night game.
And 2 Thanksgiving day games.

3 local games every sunday for 17 weeks

You don't need ST to see any of these.

101 games you don't need Sunday Ticket for.:eek2:


You're ignoring the amount of money made off of and number of customers brought in by Sunday Ticket.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:53 PM

The NFL wants to protect their broadcast partners. One provider...that's it. Other providers have been able to bid in the past. It is DirecTV's golden goose. .

There are only 3 providers that are Big enough to Bid on NFL ST Comcast, Dish and Directv.

And why would Comcast and Dish ever pay the Billions for that? They wouldn't!
NFL will be asking themselves, why should we be exclusive to 20 million customers, when we could be open to 100 million.

And Directv is going to ask themselves, why would we pay Billions for it when we are only giving it away for free, because we never got above a 1/4 of our customers to pay for it.;)

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:56 PM

You're ignoring the amount of money made off of and number of customers brought in by Sunday Ticket.

Its not as many as you think, I remember seeing some less then 2 million. And Directv is basicly giving it away to everyone this year. Which tells me the end is near.


But it was a nice Directv Tour (:)Solid Signal)

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:04 PM

There are only 3 providers that are Big enough to Bid on NFL ST Comcast, Dish and Directv.

And why would Comcast and Dish ever pay the Billions for that? They wouldn't!
NFL will be asking themselves, why should we be exclusive to 20 million customers, when we could be open to 100 million.

And Directv is going to ask themselves, why would we pay Billions for it when we are only giving it away for free, because we never got above a 1/4 of our customers to pay for it.;)


You are forgetting a provider.

The NFL won't be asking themselves that...they are the ones who want it to be exclusive to one provider due to their incredibly important and lucrative agreements with network broadcast partners.

DirecTV does very well off of their deal for ST, especially with bars/restaurant subs and in retaining/gaining customers.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:04 PM

They have no network broadcast partners in Canada to worry about or rely on.

They do, but it isn't as complex as it is in the USA with 400+ stations to keep track of. CTV, Citytv and Rogers Sportsnet carry games that are picked in advanced. CTV has the 1pm game and does it regionally where Toronto gets Buffalo, Ottawa, Quebec and the maritimes get New England, Windsor and Southwest Ontario get Detroit, western canada gets Seattle. Citytv usually picks up regional coverage of the national 4pm broadcast while Rogers SportsNet carries one of the other 4pm games. TSN has the rights to Sunday and Monday night football. The NFL Network carries the Thursday night game. Their version of Sunday ticket gets the rest.

If the imported CBS or Fox station carries one of the CTV, Citytv or SportsNet games, they get blacked out and replaced with the Canadian network carrying the game.

Edited by KyL416, 06 December 2012 - 11:16 PM.





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