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Dave Hester fired from Storage Wars, claims fraud


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#1 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:37 PM

http://www.radaronli...ster-show-faked

The fraud he is talking about is the producers salting the lockers with good items, among other things.

This is the actual complaint
http://www.radaronli...Against-A&E.pdf

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:39 PM

I suspect Dave Hester will come out on top. Is there any part of his complaint that comes as a surprise to anyone that has watched more than a few episodes? I remember an episode where a production tag was clearly visible when the locker was supposedly opened for the first time (it was gone in the next camera shot).

I still watch and enjoy the show for it's entertainment value - after all, isn't most TV just fiction?

...of course this whole firing Dave Hester and his lawsuit against the show could very well be more about publicity than anything else.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:56 AM

Of course it's faked. All of these shows are (in one way or another) which is why I don't watch them.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:19 AM

Of course it's faked. All of these shows are (in one way or another) which is why I don't watch them.


+1......It amazes me how many people think these types of shows are real.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:37 AM

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:09 AM

I am guessing this all relates to Hester's salary issues with A&E from last year. Now he has to tell all the kiddies that there is no Santa Claus. At least his persona is not faked.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:15 AM

+1......It amazes me how many people think these types of shows are real.


I'll second that.. My dad is a reality show junky and it disappoints me how such an intelligent man can believe any of them are real. At least I have comfort in knowing that he does know a show like "Hardcore Pawn" is fake..

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:20 AM

+1......It amazes me how many people think these types of shows are real.


I've even seen discussions that Antiques Roadshow is 'salted'.


Funny how Barnum is still right:

"There's a sucker born every minute"

(Although there's some question if he ever said it or not)
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:24 AM

I'd seen before that it was faked, along with American Pickers, Pawn Stars etc.

American Restoration? Not sure about this one. Maybe pre negotiating the price etc, but the part I like, them actually restoring the item is real. Just wish they showed that more, not the stuff between the crew.

I think Deadliest Catch and Flying Wild Alaska (when it was on) was at least mainly real, other than hamming for the camera and such.

I don't think Roadshow is salted. Look at what happened to the watermelon sword people. There were a lot of people that showed up for them when they came here. No way they didn't get a lot of interesting items legitimately.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:45 AM

I've even seen discussions that Antiques Roadshow is 'salted'.

Funny how Barnum is still right:

"There's a sucker born every minute"

(Although there's some question if he ever said it or not)


And it was W. C. Fields who said "Never give a sucker an even break or smarten up a chump".
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:03 AM

I like watching the show and I do believe a small portion is real, but for ever locker to have something totally awesome? Nah. Of course it's fake. Heck, I bet their contracts even tell them as much meaning that its unlikely Dave is going to win this. They are actors in a reality show. What's on air simply isn't what happens in real life. Without the help of the producers the show wood be boring and off air and the part implants know this. Yuuuuup!!!
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:25 AM

American Restoration? Not sure about this one. Maybe pre negotiating the price etc, but the part I like, them actually restoring the item is real. Just wish they showed that more, not the stuff between the crew.

I think Deadliest Catch and Flying Wild Alaska (when it was on) was at least mainly real, other than hamming for the camera and such.

I don't think Roadshow is salted.


They're all faked one way or another, even if it's just scripting and editing. What you see is not how the scene really played out.

Even one of the most 'real' out there, The First 48, is heavily edited. And I don't mean just for time. You can tell they edit for drama, sound effects added and in many cases speak direct to the camera. You even see it sometimes on COPS and some of the others.

I guess 'fake' is sort of a generic term, but when COPS first aired, there was very little altered.

Today's 'reality' shows are just plain fake through and through. Paid actors is about it as far as describing the participants. Survivor, Bachelor, Great Race; ALL of them are faked to some extent.

I like watching the show and I do believe a small portion is real,


Maybe the location. And I'm not sure some of those aren't sets.


What I don't get is why some of these shows aren't treated as the game shows they are and subject to the same rules and regulations as game shows.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:42 AM

Maybe I'm naive but why would anyone care if it were real or not?

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:45 AM

Maybe I'm naive but why would anyone care if it were real or not?


Truth in advertising. I'm fine with scripted shows. But if they're scripted, present them as such, don't present them as 'reality'.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:01 AM

Moonshiners is also fake how dumb can the law be to catch those idoits all u have to do is to find out where there camera crew stays at and simply follow them to the moonshine stills LOL......

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:11 AM

It came out nearly twenty years ago that the original MTV reality show, Real World, was scripted. I can't believe that this is news and certainly not worthy of a lawsuit.

But then, if you are making stars of low life trailer trash...
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:32 AM

But then, if you are making stars of low life trailer trash...



Or when low-life trailer trash is running the shows ....
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:39 AM

i'm surprised that hester would think the show is real.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:57 AM

I am guessing this all relates to Hester's salary issues with A&E from last year. Now he has to tell all the kiddies that there is no Santa Claus. At least his persona is not faked.


Santa Claus is not real.:(

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:59 AM

News coming out of a lawsuit over Pawn Stars and their talent agents. If it's 'real', why do they need talent agents?
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:01 AM

Maybe the location. And I'm not sure some of those aren't sets.


As for "small portion" I'll only assume that you and I aren't even remotely thinking about the same thing ... I'm talking about personalities, Jared and Brandy's interaction with each other, the Sheets jokes, etc. etc.

I don't believe the show is scripted, but I do believe the show is set up ... It's a bunch of guys ad-libbing their way throw a show that has been given a general direction by the producers (including planting cool stuff in pre-picked lockers). It's not even clear to me whether there is real bidding going on the day of show taping because shot setup, etc. will take a big chunk of the time. But I'm certain that only one of the shows stars is allowed to win the pre-picked lockers. How would it look if joe six pack came in off the street and took one of the really cool lockers - the producers would be out of a locker and have nothing to show for it.

It's 30 minutes of escapism TV and if anyone thinks "reality tv" is real just doesn't get it.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:03 AM

i'm surprised that hester would think the show is real.


:lol: I'm sure Dave knows that it's not real. Sounds like he's in a contract dispute with the producers ... Heck, even this event is probably a stunt to attract more viewers to the Show ... We'll probably see Dave back within the next two weeks after they've "made up."
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:09 AM

It's not even clear to me whether there is real bidding going on the day of show taping because shot setup, etc. will take a big chunk of the time. But I'm certain that only one of the shows stars is allowed to win the pre-picked lockers. How would it look if joe six pack came in off the street and took one of the really cool lockers - the producers would be out of a locker and have nothing to show for it.

Can you say Spin-Off Series? :P

They may seed the locker after the bidding. These really valuable things are in the back, hidden away.

They also might seed all of the lockers a bit. Really, what's a $3,000 guitar worth in the big scheme of things in a network series? If they have to spend $10,000 seeding all the lockers a bit, that's chump change when it comes to producing a television show. They'll spend that much on the craft truck feeding the cast and crew to produce a half an hour of television.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:14 AM

They're all faked one way or another, even if it's just scripting and editing. What you see is not how the scene really played out.

Even one of the most 'real' out there, The First 48, is heavily edited. And I don't mean just for time. You can tell they edit for drama, sound effects added and in many cases speak direct to the camera. You even see it sometimes on COPS and some of the others.

I guess 'fake' is sort of a generic term, but when COPS first aired, there was very little altered.

Today's 'reality' shows are just plain fake through and through. Paid actors is about it as far as describing the participants. Survivor, Bachelor, Great Race; ALL of them are faked to some extent.



Maybe the location. And I'm not sure some of those aren't sets.


What I don't get is why some of these shows aren't treated as the game shows they are and subject to the same rules and regulations as game shows.


Ok, I get the editing. They do tend to create "characters", or make things more dramatic. I've noticed in a few shows, like on Pawn Stars, before the break you'll see the expert say something like there's a potential issue with the item, but after the break, there's no doubt and he's positive it's legit.

I can see why they don't have the same rules as game shows, in that case you have actual contestants, and you can't have it rigged in such a way that one person is guaranteed to win. I truly believe that the contestants on Jeopardy! are real people, not actors. It just takes quite a lot to get to that point. I had trouble with the online test...

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:37 AM

I can see why they don't have the same rules as game shows, in that case you have actual contestants, and you can't have it rigged in such a way that one person is guaranteed to win.


You don't think Survivor and Race have contestants vying for a prize? How are they not game shows?

Or am I misreading?
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