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#51 OFFLINE   zeus

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:17 PM

I would disagree with this. For many people DRM does stop those types of things. The more technologically savvy obviously get creative


You don't need to be technologically savvy to visit a torrent website and click download or visit a TV streaming website and click play.

As for content being free...I'm dropping a Benjamin ++ every month for this content so no, I don't consider it free. Actually, I think I'm getting my clocked cleaned as to get the 25 or so channels I want to watch I have to pay for 200 other channels.

DRM is draconian and doesn't serve a purpose in this day and age. Stopping a paying DirecTV customer for watching a TV show on a jailbroken iPad is not going to suddenly make that TV show unavailable elsewhere on the 'net. The only thing it does is frustrate the paying customer. Not allowing a customer to watch HBO on their old TV does nothing but anger the customer - it doesn't stop one single download of Game of Thrones from torrent sites. It doesn't stop a single episode of True Blood from being streamed illegally. Actually, it probably encourages it.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:30 PM

You don't need to be technologically savvy to visit a torrent website and click download or visit a TV streaming website and click play.

As for content being free...I'm dropping a Benjamin ++ every month for this content so no, I don't consider it free. Actually, I think I'm getting my clocked cleaned as to get the 25 or so channels I want to watch I have to pay for 200 other channels.

DRM is draconian and doesn't serve a purpose in this day and age. Stopping a paying DirecTV customer for watching a TV show on a jailbroken iPad is not going to suddenly make that TV show unavailable elsewhere on the 'net. The only thing it does is frustrate the paying customer. Not allowing a customer to watch HBO on their old TV does nothing but anger the customer - it doesn't stop one single download of Game of Thrones from torrent sites. It doesn't stop a single episode of True Blood from being streamed illegally. Actually, it probably encourages it.


Simply don't jailbreak your iPhone. I have yet to hear a compelling argument in favor of jailbreaking.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 05:52 PM

Simply don't jailbreak your iPhone. I have yet to hear a compelling argument in favor of jailbreaking.


For the iPad there are tons of valuable tweaks like retina pad, springtomize and a slew of great themes. For the iPhone all I really miss is iBlacklist. I'm on the iPhone 5 now which doesn't have a jailbreak, so for now I put electric companies that are trying to get me to switch 5 times a day into their own contact with a custom ringtone and vibration that is set to "none". Unfortunately they still clutter up my call logs. IBlacklist (a firewall for your phone basically) is a valuable feature.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

I'm on the iPhone 5 now which doesn't have a jailbreak, so for now I put electric companies that are trying to get me to switch 5 times a day into their own contact with a custom ringtone and vibration that is set to "none". Unfortunately they still clutter up my call logs. IBlacklist (a firewall for your phone basically) is a valuable feature.


Not sure who your provider is, but both AT&T and Verizon offer usage controls that allow you to block incoming calls. AT&T charges a nominal $4.99 mo. while Verizon does not charge any additional. No jailbreaking is required either.

http://www.att.net/s...mitsForWireless

http://support.veriz...e.html?id=20989


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Posted 22 December 2012 - 07:02 AM

Yes, but terms of the warranty dictate it isn't altered and they have every right to make sure the apps function only on those devices that haven't been changed.

For obvious reasons...imagine training a customer service force to not only be able to answer questions about how the product is supposed to work, but also how people have modified it and any millions of permutations that can take.


...you mean like android? :)

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:56 AM

Simply don't jailbreak your iPhone. I have yet to hear a compelling argument in favor of jailbreaking.


I could list at least a thousand, but it would probably be over your head and this isn't the place for it. When you buy a device, it is yours and you have the right to customize it as you will.

That aside, I'd never buy a device from a company that wasn't meant to be tweaked at origin - which is why I prefer android for phones/tablets and linux for desktops/laptops.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:13 AM

I could list at least a thousand, but it would probably be over your head and this isn't the place for it. When you buy a device, it is yours and you have the right to customize it as you will.

That aside, I'd never buy a device from a company that wasn't meant to be tweaked at origin - which is why I prefer android for phones/tablets and linux for desktops/laptops.


No need to drop insults.

And you have no legal right to modify your android to fire killer laser beams. :hurah:
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:23 AM

I could list at least a thousand, but it would probably be over your head and this isn't the place for it. When you buy a device, it is yours and you have the right to customize it as you will.


You do. But when the terms of service say if you do then your service is invalidated, then you really can't expect things to work if the service does not allow them.

You can saw your iPhone in half if you want. You own it. Just don't expect it to work as advertised.

You don't like the Apple model, don't buy an apple device. Simple as that. I'm happy I have. I have friends who have continual issues with their droid devices. I'm sure there are this that wok well but the droid market is too flexible. Some devices work better than others. You make your choice.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:15 PM

I could list at least a thousand, but it would probably be over your head and this isn't the place for it.


I sincerely doubt that. On both counts.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:23 PM

Let's get back to the topic of the added channels and quit discussion on modified unsupported devices.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

Certainly any expansion of the viewing experience is good news, even when it may only benefit a subset of the customer base.

Supporting rooted/altered devices is not something one would typically or realistically expect from any service.

Despite likely not using this personally, it doesn't preclude anyone from being glad for those who will us it.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:18 PM

It very handy for someone like me who doesn't have the CCK/Internet for On Demand, but uses their TV as thier computer monitor. That way, any PPV's that aren't availabe on Cinema, i can now just order and watch online through my TV. :) Also, prior to Showtime/Starz starting up their Go variants, I was able to do their on demand services.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:19 PM

If you go to a family or friends house with DirecTV and join your device to their wifi... Do you get their subscription available on your device or do you get yours (as you are logged in)?

I'm at my inlaws this weekend and although they are authorized for the premium packages (HBO, show, starz, etc) I can't stream it on my iPad because they have Blue Ridge Cable and not DirecTV. That got me to thinking, what if they had direcTV instead? Surely my iPad would detect a valid receiver on their network?

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 12:41 AM

Disney isn't allowing providers to get Watch ESPN seperately, DirecTV won't be able to get it until the contract is up for renewal. And even then, ESPN doesn't have the rights to stream everything online because of existing deals some of the leagues made for mobile rights.


Actually, ESPN does offer their networks for online streaming outside the home. Verizon, Time Warner, and Bright House all have "WatchESPN" which is ESPN3.com + ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming. It's tricky for DirecTV, though. ESPN3 is generally tied to your ISP subscription (if your ISP offers it, even if you don't take TV from them, you get ESPN3) but so far to qualify for ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming you have to have a TV package PLUS the ISP support.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 03:01 AM

Actually, ESPN does offer their networks for online streaming outside the home. Verizon, Time Warner, and Bright House all have "WatchESPN" which is ESPN3.com + ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming. It's tricky for DirecTV, though. ESPN3 is generally tied to your ISP subscription (if your ISP offers it, even if you don't take TV from them, you get ESPN3) but so far to qualify for ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming you have to have a TV package PLUS the ISP support.

That's what I was referring to. The thing is WatchESPN doesn't get you everything that airs on ESPN. Rights reasons force them to blackout certain events from the live streams of ESPN and ESPN2. They just recently got the rights for MLB and NASCAR on it. Before that the video would blur anytime highlights for MLB games were shown on SportsCenter. I have to double check the latest status, but I think Monday Night Football is still limited to computers and tablets because of the deal NFL has with Verizon Wireless for mobile rights.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

Hmmmm. You get some TV everywhere (there is WiFi or other i connection); more TV at home, but not all TV anywhere. (In fact, hardly anyone gets all TV anywhere!)


You get it as "everywhere" as the "World Series" is worldwide. ;) There are geographical restrictions to the content as well.
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:51 PM

Reminds me of a favorite tag line:

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:54 PM

You get it as "everywhere" as the "World Series" is worldwide. ;) There are geographical restrictions to the content as well.


Whatever. TV Everywhere is just marketing propaganda.

I have Slingbox devices for many years. Can't beat it.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:23 AM

About a month ago I gave iphone app a spin, and was able to watch all the channels available on my iPhone. A couple of days ago I tried it again the and the only channels I could play is Audience, AXSTV, Sony HD, and SHRTHD. All the other channels are grayed out. When I click on one of the other channels, i get "No HD DVR receiver found. I click retry, and still nothing. I then put in the IP address of the receiver, it says receiver can't be found. Both are on the same network. I have also restarted the reciever.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 01:19 PM

It's tricky for DirecTV, though. ESPN3 is generally tied to your ISP subscription (if your ISP offers it, even if you don't take TV from them, you get ESPN3) but so far to qualify for ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming you have to have a TV package PLUS the ISP support.


Interestingly, DirecTV Latin America added ESPN3 access last August. See http://www.rapidtvne...adds-espn3.html. You watch it through the D* LA website.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:11 PM

TV Everywhere is a nice concept and is slowly getting better. Although, I spent 10 minutes looking for something I could play for free and finally found find something using the "browse by network" menu. That was on my laptop, on my Android phone with 4.2 Jellybean, it continues to error out. Unless you have a lot of premium channels or like to pay for movies, its not that useful yet.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

You don't need to be technologically savvy to visit a torrent website and click download or visit a TV streaming website and click play.

As for content being free...I'm dropping a Benjamin ++ every month for this content so no, I don't consider it free. Actually, I think I'm getting my clocked cleaned as to get the 25 or so channels I want to watch I have to pay for 200 other channels.

DRM is draconian and doesn't serve a purpose in this day and age. Stopping a paying DirecTV customer for watching a TV show on a jailbroken iPad is not going to suddenly make that TV show unavailable elsewhere on the 'net. The only thing it does is frustrate the paying customer. Not allowing a customer to watch HBO on their old TV does nothing but anger the customer - it doesn't stop one single download of Game of Thrones from torrent sites. It doesn't stop a single episode of True Blood from being streamed illegally. Actually, it probably encourages it.


Exactly. There's a reason Game of Thrones is the most pirated TV show of 2012, and if DRM was accomplishing anything at all, that wouldn't be the case.

I am just happy to have a slingbox HD with the ability to bypass this nonsense.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:22 PM

Great to have this but what is the real Cost being added to everyone package that doesn't want or have the devices to get this great offer.

I guess they are just treated as D* taxpayers -Revenue for the greater good

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:36 PM

Exactly. There's a reason Game of Thrones is the most pirated TV show of 2012, and if DRM was accomplishing anything at all, that wouldn't be the case.


Uh, no.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:48 PM

Uh, no.


Uh, yes. Bitmetv and various other places beg to differ.. Pirates are winning.




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