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DIRECTV Adds More Than 30 New Networks to TV Everywhere


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#61 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

Certainly any expansion of the viewing experience is good news, even when it may only benefit a subset of the customer base.

Supporting rooted/altered devices is not something one would typically or realistically expect from any service.

Despite likely not using this personally, it doesn't preclude anyone from being glad for those who will us it.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:18 PM

It very handy for someone like me who doesn't have the CCK/Internet for On Demand, but uses their TV as thier computer monitor. That way, any PPV's that aren't availabe on Cinema, i can now just order and watch online through my TV. :) Also, prior to Showtime/Starz starting up their Go variants, I was able to do their on demand services.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:19 PM

If you go to a family or friends house with DirecTV and join your device to their wifi... Do you get their subscription available on your device or do you get yours (as you are logged in)?

I'm at my inlaws this weekend and although they are authorized for the premium packages (HBO, show, starz, etc) I can't stream it on my iPad because they have Blue Ridge Cable and not DirecTV. That got me to thinking, what if they had direcTV instead? Surely my iPad would detect a valid receiver on their network?

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 12:41 AM

Disney isn't allowing providers to get Watch ESPN seperately, DirecTV won't be able to get it until the contract is up for renewal. And even then, ESPN doesn't have the rights to stream everything online because of existing deals some of the leagues made for mobile rights.


Actually, ESPN does offer their networks for online streaming outside the home. Verizon, Time Warner, and Bright House all have "WatchESPN" which is ESPN3.com + ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming. It's tricky for DirecTV, though. ESPN3 is generally tied to your ISP subscription (if your ISP offers it, even if you don't take TV from them, you get ESPN3) but so far to qualify for ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming you have to have a TV package PLUS the ISP support.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 03:01 AM

Actually, ESPN does offer their networks for online streaming outside the home. Verizon, Time Warner, and Bright House all have "WatchESPN" which is ESPN3.com + ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming. It's tricky for DirecTV, though. ESPN3 is generally tied to your ISP subscription (if your ISP offers it, even if you don't take TV from them, you get ESPN3) but so far to qualify for ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming you have to have a TV package PLUS the ISP support.

That's what I was referring to. The thing is WatchESPN doesn't get you everything that airs on ESPN. Rights reasons force them to blackout certain events from the live streams of ESPN and ESPN2. They just recently got the rights for MLB and NASCAR on it. Before that the video would blur anytime highlights for MLB games were shown on SportsCenter. I have to double check the latest status, but I think Monday Night Football is still limited to computers and tablets because of the deal NFL has with Verizon Wireless for mobile rights.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:46 AM

Hmmmm. You get some TV everywhere (there is WiFi or other i connection); more TV at home, but not all TV anywhere. (In fact, hardly anyone gets all TV anywhere!)


You get it as "everywhere" as the "World Series" is worldwide. ;) There are geographical restrictions to the content as well.
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:51 PM

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:54 PM

You get it as "everywhere" as the "World Series" is worldwide. ;) There are geographical restrictions to the content as well.


Whatever. TV Everywhere is just marketing propaganda.

I have Slingbox devices for many years. Can't beat it.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:23 AM

About a month ago I gave iphone app a spin, and was able to watch all the channels available on my iPhone. A couple of days ago I tried it again the and the only channels I could play is Audience, AXSTV, Sony HD, and SHRTHD. All the other channels are grayed out. When I click on one of the other channels, i get "No HD DVR receiver found. I click retry, and still nothing. I then put in the IP address of the receiver, it says receiver can't be found. Both are on the same network. I have also restarted the reciever.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 01:19 PM

It's tricky for DirecTV, though. ESPN3 is generally tied to your ISP subscription (if your ISP offers it, even if you don't take TV from them, you get ESPN3) but so far to qualify for ESPN/ESPN2 online streaming you have to have a TV package PLUS the ISP support.


Interestingly, DirecTV Latin America added ESPN3 access last August. See http://www.rapidtvne...adds-espn3.html. You watch it through the D* LA website.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:11 PM

TV Everywhere is a nice concept and is slowly getting better. Although, I spent 10 minutes looking for something I could play for free and finally found find something using the "browse by network" menu. That was on my laptop, on my Android phone with 4.2 Jellybean, it continues to error out. Unless you have a lot of premium channels or like to pay for movies, its not that useful yet.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

You don't need to be technologically savvy to visit a torrent website and click download or visit a TV streaming website and click play.

As for content being free...I'm dropping a Benjamin ++ every month for this content so no, I don't consider it free. Actually, I think I'm getting my clocked cleaned as to get the 25 or so channels I want to watch I have to pay for 200 other channels.

DRM is draconian and doesn't serve a purpose in this day and age. Stopping a paying DirecTV customer for watching a TV show on a jailbroken iPad is not going to suddenly make that TV show unavailable elsewhere on the 'net. The only thing it does is frustrate the paying customer. Not allowing a customer to watch HBO on their old TV does nothing but anger the customer - it doesn't stop one single download of Game of Thrones from torrent sites. It doesn't stop a single episode of True Blood from being streamed illegally. Actually, it probably encourages it.


Exactly. There's a reason Game of Thrones is the most pirated TV show of 2012, and if DRM was accomplishing anything at all, that wouldn't be the case.

I am just happy to have a slingbox HD with the ability to bypass this nonsense.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:22 PM

Great to have this but what is the real Cost being added to everyone package that doesn't want or have the devices to get this great offer.

I guess they are just treated as D* taxpayers -Revenue for the greater good
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:36 PM

Exactly. There's a reason Game of Thrones is the most pirated TV show of 2012, and if DRM was accomplishing anything at all, that wouldn't be the case.


Uh, no.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:48 PM

Uh, no.


Uh, yes. Bitmetv and various other places beg to differ.. Pirates are winning.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:57 PM

Uh, no.


Maybe if DRM was working, GoT would still be the most pirated show, but it wouldn't be anywhere close to the massive scale that its at now. DRM is stopping no one who wants the show but doesn't want to pay for it.

The only people DRM is affecting are those of us that pay for it, and have to deal with the DRM issues. Punish people who access it legally while people who pirate it get to keep their money and laugh at us. What a great business model.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:17 PM

Maybe if DRM was working, GoT would still be the most pirated show, but it wouldn't be anywhere close to the massive scale that its at now. DRM is stopping no one who wants the show but doesn't want to pay for it.

The only people DRM is affecting are those of us that pay for it, and have to deal with the DRM issues. Punish people who access it legally while people who pirate it get to keep their money and laugh at us. What a great business model.


So, something only works if it 100% effective?

Do you lock you door to your house. I sure hope you don't waste your time because if someone wants to get in, they can, making your lock ineffective.

DRM has some effect. The question no one knows the answer to is "how much." That includes you.

Seems to me, though, that pirating was more rampant 10+ years ago. Casual folk were downloading all kinds of stuff.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:36 PM

So, something only works if it 100% effective?

Do you lock you door to your house. I sure hope you don't waste your time because if someone wants to get in, they can, making your lock ineffective.

DRM has some effect. The question no one knows the answer to is "how much." That includes you.

Seems to me, though, that pirating was more rampant 10+ years ago. Casual folk were downloading all kinds of stuff.


Well put.

And actually there are some people who still believe in paying for what they acquire....

DRM stops the thieves who have the desire but not the savvy to complete their theft. Obviously that excludes the smart guys who are also thieves! :hurah::eek2:
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:09 PM

Well put.

And actually there are some people who still believe in paying for what they acquire....

DRM stops the thieves who have the desire but not the savvy to complete their theft. Obviously that excludes the smart guys who are also thieves! :hurah::eek2:


It also excludes anyone who knows how to read and follow directions (cracking DRM isn't exactly rocket science, downloading torrents is even easier), anyone who knows someone else who already does it, or anyone who can Google streaming services and click a play button, so it pretty much excludes 99.9% of the internet population.

DRM isn't stopping anyone who wants the content.

Its like chaining a bicycle up to a parking meter and thinking it's secure when anyone can come along and lift the chain up over the meter and walk off with the bicycle. But hey at least it stops the people who aren't strong enough to lift the chain.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:59 PM

It also excludes anyone who knows how to read and follow directions (cracking DRM isn't exactly rocket science, downloading torrents is even easier), anyone who knows someone else who already does it, or anyone who can Google streaming services and click a play button, so it pretty much excludes 99.9% of the internet population.

DRM isn't stopping anyone who wants the content.

Its like chaining a bicycle up to a parking meter and thinking it's secure when anyone can come along and lift the chain up over the meter and walk off with the bicycle. But hey at least it stops the people who aren't strong enough to lift the chain.


I'm pretty savvy. I find it harder to get content. It can be gotten but just like locking a door, the act of making it harder deters most. For some it is a game. For most it is not.

You fool yourself into thinking most people have any tech savvy at all. They do not. Napster was easy. But torrents for many who did napster are not. Closing easy paths does deter. It won't stop the hard core. Nothing will. But to claim it has no affect is completely wrong.

BTW, you never answered. Do you lock your door at night or when you leave your house?
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