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#51 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 01:30 PM

I understand that every year our prices will go up no matter what. I just don't get a $15 increase. If it was $5 like the rest then I could see that but $15 is a huge and I mean huge jump in price.

Part of that comes from holding down the price over the past few years. DISH tried to stay under the $100 price point ... they broke it when they went to $104.99 a couple of years back. There is less reason to keep the price artifically low.

With AEP being AT250+four movie packages it makes it simple for people to scale back if they wish ... drop one or more of the movie packages or drop to AT200 plus the movie packages of choice.

All sports should be in one package. Never going to happen though.

No thank you ... not ALL sports in one package. While the price of ESPN bumping up all packages is not a good thought at least people can get ESPN without paying for the other networks.

See previous a la carte discussions for the argument over how much such a package would cost.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

We pay enough as it is. I'll switch our package to the Top 200 from Top 250 and Red Zone will be dropped as soon as the NFL season is over. That will save money with the new increase. We don't need to be paying more for TV especially when most of the channels aren't worth it nor do we watch them.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 05:23 PM

I like the 20 channels you get with the BB $10. I don't like the slow BB movie delivery but will keep BB. It would seem Dish would want to do something about the slow DVD service either by improving their streaming interface and selection or improving the DVD turnaround and availability. Poor service pretty much always costs you customers. After dropping from the 250 to the 200 plan last year, I am now wondering why I even have 200. It used to be that you had to have 200 or greater to get the music channels, now they are available on the 120 plan. When I look at 200 there are only 2 channels that I even rarely watch. Hallmark and BBC America.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:15 PM

What is the point of the AEP package? It used to be a savings for subscribers by combining premium channels and DVR service at a discount. Now there is no savings with it and in fact costs $1.00 more than getting AT250 plus the four premiums (AT250 $74.99 plus $44 for all four premiums = $118.99, the new AEP price = $119.99). Makes no sense.


Do we know yet that the four-for-$44 will still hold true? HBO is going up (or maybe it already has, I can't remember)... It wouldn't surprise me if the $44 premium package discount goes up too.

That price list so far only shows the major packages... not the premiums or other add-ons.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

Do we know yet that the four-for-$44 will still hold true? HBO is going up (or maybe it already has, I can't remember)... It wouldn't surprise me if the $44 premium package discount goes up too.

That price list so far only shows the major packages... not the premiums or other add-ons.


HBO recently went up to $18/month.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:49 PM

Do we know yet that the four-for-$44 will still hold true? HBO is going up (or maybe it already has, I can't remember)... It wouldn't surprise me if the $44 premium package discount goes up too.

That price list so far only shows the major packages... not the premiums or other add-ons.


Going up $1 to $45 on the 17th.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:15 PM

Well, I just got my Social Security COLA letter this week. My income will increase less than half of the Dish increase. I'm glad no other prices are going up.

If this is about sports, they really need to create a sports-less package for us odd ducks who NEVER watch the sports channels and would be very happy to see them all go away. I can understand bundled pricing, but to force me to pay for a whole class of programming that I will never watch seems unfair at the best.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:21 PM

I need water and electric. I don't need or watch ESPN. So why am I forced to pay for an expensive channel I will never watch? In fact I have all the sports channels blocked.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:52 PM

I need water and electric. I don't need or watch ESPN. So why am I forced to pay for an expensive channel I will never watch? In fact I have all the sports channels blocked.


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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:15 PM

Seems like there is more than just the increases for the TOP120+ and AEP, like something being added to them. Perhaps Top120+ is being phased out? It will be $10 more than the Top120, so that's a reasonable choice, but only $5 less than the Top200 with quite a few more channels. As for AEP - why even have the package if it's the same as getting the Top250 and the all the Movies in price.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:16 PM

I need water and electric. I don't need or watch ESPN. So why am I forced to pay for an expensive channel I will never watch? In fact I have all the sports channels blocked.


If Dish wants to Kick Directv in the Nuts big TIME, All they have to do is offer A La Carte ! I only watch 10 channels or so Plus Movies channels

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 07:44 PM

If Dish wants to Kick Directv in the Nuts big TIME, All they have to do is offer A La Carte ! I only watch 10 channels or so Plus Movies channels

Me too. $10 channels at $7 each plus 15 a month for the movie channels. Sweet. Only $85mo. Yes, at a-la-cart rates that's what they would be.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:34 PM

If Dish wants to Kick Directv in the Nuts big TIME, All they have to do is offer A La Carte ! I only watch 10 channels or so Plus Movies channels


Its been discussed a million times and the general consensus is its not affordable for the customer. Bundled channel packages would be significantly cheaper for you.

Your 10 channels would probably cost just as much as the AT200.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:28 AM

If Dish wants to Kick Directv in the Nuts big TIME, All they have to do is offer A La Carte ! I only watch 10 channels or so Plus Movies channels


You have to get the programmers to go along with ala carte as well, so far they have not.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 11:27 AM

HBO recently went up to $18/month.


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 11:43 AM

Well, I just got my Social Security COLA letter this week. My income will increase less than half of the Dish increase. I'm glad no other prices are going up.

If this is about sports, they really need to create a sports-less package for us odd ducks who NEVER watch the sports channels and would be very happy to see them all go away. I can understand bundled pricing, but to force me to pay for a whole class of programming that I will never watch seems unfair at the best.


I fully agree with you. 20 years ago The Disney was $10 a month.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:22 PM

Really?


HBO is $18 on Dish.

As pointed out - A La Carte has been talked to death. You will pay more than you do now, for fewer channels. Fine if you only want two or three channels, but even then you will be screaming at paying so much for those two or three.
Want an example? RSN's cost somewhere around $3+ now (toward $4 or more for some) with everyone paying, make it A La Carte and it has been determined because so few would actually get them (Compared to everyone being forced to pay now) the cost could be $10 to $15 a month for just the RSN.
So lets say $10 for the RSN, and approx $7 each for five channels. That is $31 for just those four channels. Does not even include the cost of locals. We already see $5+ is the price for some of the A La Carte available. Some channels will cost more than the $7, some might cost somewhat less..... But you can see it just does not work unless you really only want a couple of channels.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:48 PM

HBO is $18 on Dish.

As pointed out - A La Carte has been talked to death. You will pay more than you do now, for fewer channels. Fine if you only want two or three channels, but even then you will be screaming at paying so much for those two or three.
Want an example? RSN's cost somewhere around $3+ now (toward $4 or more for some) with everyone paying, make it A La Carte and it has been determined because so few would actually get them (Compared to everyone being forced to pay now) the cost could be $10 to $15 a month for just the RSN.
So lets say $10 for the RSN, and approx $7 each for five channels. That is $31 for just those four channels. Does not even include the cost of locals. We already see $5+ is the price for some of the A La Carte available. Some channels will cost more than the $7, some might cost somewhat less..... But you can see it just does not work unless you really only want a couple of channels.


And even then those few channels may cost more together , then the price of going from at 200 to at 250, so if it were possible to get a la carte + a package the logical choice would probably still be to just get the package instead.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:49 AM

I understand that every year our prices will go up no matter what. I just don't get a $15 increase. If it was $5 like the rest then I could see that but $15 is a huge and I mean huge jump in price.

By the way your wrong with your ESPN example. I am a huge college football fan. ESPN just bought the rites to the first ever Division 1 college football playoff. They buy the rights to everything so they do add content all the time. Now I know not everyone watched ESPN and lots who don't want it so I get that too but ESPN does add content every single year.

AEP and their $15 increase as of now has not added anything. At least give us the sports pack like DirecTV.


I don't understand a $15 increase either. I've never seen one that big for programming.
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:08 PM

http://skyvision.com...ndex.html#10pak

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Get It All Pak
$46.66 a month
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∙ BBC America ∙ Centeric (BET Jazz) ∙ Biography ∙ Bravo E&W
∙ Bloomberg TV ∙ Chiller ∙ Cooking Channel ∙ Current TV
∙ OWN (Discovery Health) ∙ Planet Green (Discovery Home)
∙ The Hub (Discovery Kids) ∙ Discovery Military
∙ Discovery Science ∙ Investigation Discovery (Discovery Times)
∙ DMX Music ∙ ESPN Classic ∙ FIT TV
∙ FOX Movie Channel ∙ FOX Soccer Channel ∙ FUSE ∙ G4
∙ Game Show Network ∙ Golf ∙ GAC
∙ HGTV East & West ∙ History International
∙ History Channel East & West ∙ Horse Racing Channel ∙ IFC
∙ Halogen (Inspirational Life) ∙ Lifetime Movie Network
∙ MTV2 ∙ MTV Hits ∙ National Geographic ∙ Nick Toons
∙ Teen Nick (Nick GAS) ∙ Nick Jr (Noggin) ∙ RFD-TV
∙ OLN (Versus) ∙ The Outdoor Channel ∙ Sci-Fi
∙ Shop NBC ∙ Sleuth ∙ Speed Channel ∙ Sprout for Kids
∙ Style ∙ TBN ∙ Disney XD (Toon Disney) ∙ TCM
∙ The Word ∙ TV Games ∙ VH1 Classic
∙ VH1 Country (CMT Pure) ∙ VH1 Soul ∙ WE

PLUS

∙ Starz E ∙ Starz West ∙ Starz Cinema E ∙ Sundance
∙ Starz Comedy E (Kids) ∙ Starz Edge E ∙ Starz Edge W
∙ Starz in Black E ∙ Starz Kids & Family E ∙ Encore Action E
∙ Encore Action W ∙ Encore Drama E ∙ Encore Drama W
∙ Encore E ∙ Encore W ∙ Encore Love E ∙ Encore Love W
∙ Encore Mystery E ∙ Encore Mystery W ∙ Encore WAM E
∙ Encore Westerns E ∙ Encore Westerns W ∙ MOVIEplex E

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

I don't understand a $15 increase either. I've never seen one that big for programming.


As I read it, the only package getting a $15 increase is the Everything Pack... so, while not good if you subscribe to that... at least it is the Everything Pack going up the most, which makes sense given that it has pretty much all the channels.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

But doesn't make sense from this standpoint... AEP has no more channels than Top250. (Plus the movies of course) AEP went up $5. So that leaves a $10 increase. The four movie packages at least at this time are about $1 more at $45 than they were. So that's leaves about a $9 or so increase not accounted for. Like many have pointed out, with that $9 increase it's the same price as getting the Top250 and the four movie packages, so why bother having an AEP? Just seems there is more to it that we do not know...

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:55 PM

http://skyvision.com...ndex.html#10pak

Just a little reminder what the channels really cost and they still make money !


Get It All Pak
$46.66 a month
with annual subscription

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

∙ BBC America ∙ Centeric (BET Jazz) ∙ Biography ∙ Bravo E&W
∙ Bloomberg TV ∙ Chiller ∙ Cooking Channel ∙ Current TV
∙ OWN (Discovery Health) ∙ Planet Green (Discovery Home)
∙ The Hub (Discovery Kids) ∙ Discovery Military
∙ Discovery Science ∙ Investigation Discovery (Discovery Times)
∙ DMX Music ∙ ESPN Classic ∙ FIT TV
∙ FOX Movie Channel ∙ FOX Soccer Channel ∙ FUSE ∙ G4
∙ Game Show Network ∙ Golf ∙ GAC
∙ HGTV East & West ∙ History International
∙ History Channel East & West ∙ Horse Racing Channel ∙ IFC
∙ Halogen (Inspirational Life) ∙ Lifetime Movie Network
∙ MTV2 ∙ MTV Hits ∙ National Geographic ∙ Nick Toons
∙ Teen Nick (Nick GAS) ∙ Nick Jr (Noggin) ∙ RFD-TV
∙ OLN (Versus) ∙ The Outdoor Channel ∙ Sci-Fi
∙ Shop NBC ∙ Sleuth ∙ Speed Channel ∙ Sprout for Kids
∙ Style ∙ TBN ∙ Disney XD (Toon Disney) ∙ TCM
∙ The Word ∙ TV Games ∙ VH1 Classic
∙ VH1 Country (CMT Pure) ∙ VH1 Soul ∙ WE

PLUS

∙ Starz E ∙ Starz West ∙ Starz Cinema E ∙ Sundance
∙ Starz Comedy E (Kids) ∙ Starz Edge E ∙ Starz Edge W
∙ Starz in Black E ∙ Starz Kids & Family E ∙ Encore Action E
∙ Encore Action W ∙ Encore Drama E ∙ Encore Drama W
∙ Encore E ∙ Encore W ∙ Encore Love E ∙ Encore Love W
∙ Encore Mystery E ∙ Encore Mystery W ∙ Encore WAM E
∙ Encore Westerns E ∙ Encore Westerns W ∙ MOVIEplex E

$55.99 Month


I am missing your point I think. How is that much different than a similar Dish package? It's nowhere near the channels of the Dish top package... And no RSN among many other sports.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 05:09 PM

Like many have pointed out, with that $9 increase it's the same price as getting the Top250 and the four movie packages, so why bother having an AEP? Just seems there is more to it that we do not know...

AT250 $74.99+$45 for all four movie packages = $119.99. The same price as AEP. I don't see why AEP needs to be cheaper than AT250+four movie packages. The $45 for four movie packages is already a $12 discount.

I seem to remember pricing a few years back where AEP = AT250+4 movie packs. And I remember complaints that AEP jumped the most ... but no kudos the next couple of years as it stayed low.

I see AEP's price as artificially low for the past few years ... DISH playing with the $100 price. With the 2013 bump to at least $109.99 they might as well get back a real price. DirecTV is already at $119.99 for Premier so they will still be higher than DISH once their annual increase kicks in.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 07:17 PM

AT250 $74.99+$45 for all four movie packages = $119.99. The same price as AEP. I don't see why AEP needs to be cheaper than AT250+four movie packages. The $45 for four movie packages is already a $12 discount.

I seem to remember pricing a few years back where AEP = AT250+4 movie packs. And I remember complaints that AEP jumped the most ... but no kudos the next couple of years as it stayed low.

I see AEP's price as artificially low for the past few years ... DISH playing with the $100 price. With the 2013 bump to at least $109.99 they might as well get back a real price. DirecTV is already at $119.99 for Premier so they will still be higher than DISH once their annual increase kicks in.


True but again at least Direct gives you their sports pack with their premier. Plus more Max channels and more HD in their premiums. Especially their Showtimes.

So please tell us what is Dish adding????? It doesn't make sense. Even if Direct goes up some they still off more in their top pack.




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