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#226 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

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#227 OFFLINE   fireponcoal

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:17 PM

DirecTV Genie whole-home DVR review: http://www.engadget....ome-dvr-review/


Very well written review..

#228 OFFLINE   HarleyD

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:31 PM

Based on the screen grabs of the guide the reviewer lives in the Tampa DMA.

It's also interesting how often I end up learning something from these reviews that I didn't know about my own equipment.

Specifically, I've always used the red and green buttons to make the 12 hour jumps forward and backward in the guide and didn't know I could do the same thing with FF and REW.

Edited by HarleyD, 29 December 2012 - 05:36 PM.

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#229 OFFLINE   spartanstew

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:49 PM

Specifically, I've always used the red and green buttons to make the 12 hour jumps forward and backward in the guide and didn't know I could do the same thing with FF and REW.


It wasn't always that way.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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#230 OFFLINE   Satelliteracer

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:50 PM

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If I was following the thread correctly, you are in CHOICE XTRA CLASSIC which won't show up in the comparison on the web because the package isn't sold any longer. That might be the disconnect going on. Choice Xtra Classic is different than Choice Xtra. Also, as you pointed out, Plus DVR and PLUS HD DVR are migrating over to Choice Xtra Classic. They are identical in channels and services, the difference is that with Plus HD and Plus HD DVR the DVR and HD was bundled together into one package. Now they are broken out separately.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:51 PM

True, but a 25% increase is typically classified as steep.


25% price increase?
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:03 PM

25% price increase?


The DVR fee going from $8 to $10 is a 25% increase.

I prefer to call it a $2 increase, doesn't sound as bad :)

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:20 PM

ok I did some checking into the RSN Fee today. I found because I get Root Sports (from Pittsburgh) along with STO (Sports Time Ohio) and Fox Sports Ohio I am lucky enough to qualify for this special fee... YAY :( But what I am at odds with and someone here maybe able to help. I leve in North East Ohio, my locals come from the Youngstown DMA, Cleveland is considered my neighboring locals, this si what gets me. So I am in the secondary Pittsburgh market aswell, but back on Cleveland. I am in Clevelands DMA for "Neighboring Locals" Dish has those, last I knew on the national beam but I can not in any way shape of form get D* to put those on my programing, (I would pay extra for them) But I am forced to get Fox Sports Pittsburgh, I don't watch Penquin Hockey or Pirates Baseball (who does) But I can not opt out of that crappy channel. I get teh sports pack from football season until the end of college hoops and Hockey. I for the life of me can not remember watching Roots Sports..... That's my comment I can't get channels I am aloud to have and would pay 5 bucks a month to have but I am forced into having 1 crappy channel that is going to cost me 2 more bucks. OK rant over. Have a Happy New Year everyone!!!!

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:27 PM

DirecTV Genie whole-home DVR review: http://www.engadget....ome-dvr-review/


Love it, I've already told a commenter that they are wrong, caused another to spontaneously reboot with a remote reprogram suggestion, and explained booleans, along with promoting this site. Almost a full days work.

Edited by dpeters11, 29 December 2012 - 10:33 PM.


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:55 AM

True, but a 25% increase is typically classified as steep.

Of course...just like a 25 cent price increase on a $0.99 Coke at McDonalds.

That's why numbers can become manipulated to make a point and at the same time can become meaningless, especially when it comes to percentages.

2 Bucks is 2 Bucks...it's that simple.

Then again...the whole pricing model changes with ALL providers is forcing plenty of folks to re-evaluate what they pay for each month...and just how important some of the elements of the bill really are in terms of "need".
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#236 OFFLINE   HinterXGames

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:01 AM

Like I said earlier, when some channel package (like ESPN) reaches a certain price per month (say $5 or $8, whatever) then I think that package should be a la carte. There is that $5 'extra HD' channel package that we can add a la carte so why not something like ESPN for example? Directv needs to take a stand on that for its customers.


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I think it's because ESPN requires a certain penetration rate of the customer base, which is ungodly (in the 90's I think). If you make it a la carte like premiums, HD Extra Pack, etc, then that penetration can not be reached.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:10 AM

Love it, I've already told a commenter that they are wrong, caused another to spontaneously reboot with a remote reprogram suggestion, and explained booleans, along with promoting this site. Almost a full days work.

Yeah...the overview is a typical Engadget piece...typos, mis-spellings (especially the banner photo heading about the DirecTV Genie whole-shome DVR), poorly cropped photos, misinformation, and lust for menu screenshots...several of which are not unique to the Genie.

But other than those things...it's a work of art.

Coming full circle back to the topic at hand...

It will be interesting to see the mid-year 2013 numbers on new subscribers and YTD revenue for various providers. That might give a clearer indication of the impact of customer switiching....
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#238 OFFLINE   HarleyD

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:30 AM

It wasn't always that way.


Be that as it may, a change was implemented and I wasn't aware of it.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:33 AM

Man.......with Premier this is pushing me ever close to the $200/mo threshold. I dont want to change anything about my setup/programming but this is getting to the point where I might have to.

$200/month? u must be nuts

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:36 AM

$200/month? u must be nuts

Now now...let's not get nasty.

No doubt $200/month for Pay TV is too pricey for the average subcriber...and certainly here as well...but you'd be surprised how many folks spend $150+/month on it...even with Dish, Cable, etc.

Then again...there are folks with a lust for mobile phones and pay $500+ for a phone and $150+ per month for service on those as well.

Not my cup of expense tea...but if folks have the finances for it, and choose to do it...it's their prerogative (and money) to do so.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:37 AM

ok I did some checking into the RSN Fee today. I found because I get Root Sports (from Pittsburgh) along with STO (Sports Time Ohio) and Fox Sports Ohio I am lucky enough to qualify for this special fee... YAY :( But what I am at odds with and someone here maybe able to help. I leve in North East Ohio, my locals come from the Youngstown DMA, Cleveland is considered my neighboring locals, this si what gets me. So I am in the secondary Pittsburgh market aswell, but back on Cleveland. I am in Clevelands DMA for "Neighboring Locals" Dish has those, last I knew on the national beam but I can not in any way shape of form get D* to put those on my programing, (I would pay extra for them) But I am forced to get Fox Sports Pittsburgh, I don't watch Penquin Hockey or Pirates Baseball (who does) But I can not opt out of that crappy channel. I get teh sports pack from football season until the end of college hoops and Hockey. I for the life of me can not remember watching Roots Sports..... That's my comment I can't get channels I am aloud to have and would pay 5 bucks a month to have but I am forced into having 1 crappy channel that is going to cost me 2 more bucks. OK rant over. Have a Happy New Year everyone!!!!


Since you would pay extra lay out a one time $50 expense and get an AM21 and you can select a secondary Zip code. Just punch in 44110, or any other zip in the Cleveland metro area and those will show up in your guide as well.

Now those are just the OTA channels (ergo an antenna will be required) but if you are already getting STO and Fox Sports Ohio those are the Cleveland RSNs. OTA is all you are missing.

This will let you get all of the sub channels as well.

I grew up in Youngstown and Boardman so I feel your pain. It's Youngstown, no it's Pittsburgh, no it's Cleveland.

The Pittsburgh and Cleveland Mob families had some especially "spirited" debates on that topic.

Edited by HarleyD, 30 December 2012 - 07:48 AM.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:24 AM

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I think it's because ESPN requires a certain penetration rate of the customer base, which is ungodly (in the 90's I think). If you make it a la carte like premiums, HD Extra Pack, etc, then that penetration can not be reached.
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I'm sure someone can confirm the penetration thing.


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:29 AM

Like others, I'm not enamored of rate increases either, but as rate increases go, this is smaller than I had actually expected.

I have been a switcher in the past, but looking at D* and E*'s new rates, I can stay with D* cheaper than I can switch. And now that I've got a 3D TV coming, I have an even better reason for staying with D* and keeping Premier! :)

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:04 AM

Like others, I'm not enamored of rate increases either, but as rate increases go, this is smaller than I had actually expected.
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Up $10 for me is $5 more then I expected. :(
I'm one of those that took a 7.5% increase. Thats much higher then I expected.

That puts me at $175 per month, and I don't have Starz,Sports pack ,or Showtime.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:17 AM

I'll end up at $150 with Premier, 3 HDDVRs, HD and MRV before discounts. But I always get discounts when I call to downgrade from Premier. Anywhere from $20-$40 per month depending on what the Magic 8 ball tells the CSR to do! :)

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:24 AM

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:13 PM

In all honesty...I struggle with a value-based return on investment for the convenience, freedom of choice, and access to stored viewing content when it exceeds about $100/month. That's a common threshold for pain.

I could justify in my own mind that we don't need more than 2 local TV stations and perhaps 2 national networks...as well as maybe 2 dozen specialty network groups....but I'm probably not going to live long enough to see that day.

The ultimate result of annual increases is that more and more customers begin to figure out ways to cut back. As that demand lowers...likely so will the number of channels in the future. It seems like pretty clear writing on the wall.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:44 PM

Up $10 for me is $5 more then I expected. :(
I'm one of those that took a 7.5% increase. Thats much higher then I expected.

That puts me at $175 per month, and I don't have Starz,Sports pack ,or Showtime.


Sounds like Premier could be a cheaper better way to go for you.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:23 PM

Up $10 for me is $5 more then I expected. :(
I'm one of those that took a 7.5% increase. Thats much higher then I expected.

That puts me at $175 per month, and I don't have Starz,Sports pack ,or Showtime.


I'm confused. With 4 DVR's, the protection plan, whole home, HD and Premier I'm at $170.98 before discounts. I guess this will go to about $175 with the increase. What could you have that takes your package to $175 without Starz, Showtime and the sportspack?

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:41 PM

out of market sports packages can be one thing that can do that.

I'm confused. With 4 DVR's, the protection plan, whole home, HD and Premier I'm at $170.98 before discounts. I guess this will go to about $175 with the increase. What could you have that takes your package to $175 without Starz, Showtime and the sportspack?






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