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#26 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:35 AM

Why wouldn't everyone who consciously monitors their expenditures care???

If someone doesn't subscribe to the DirecTV service...and they don't pay a bill for the service...it seems well beyond reasonable there is no reason to care. :rolleyes:

Therefore, posting feedback on pricing from a Dish subscriber that doesn't use DirecTV flaunts with the concept of trolling.
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#27 OFFLINE   HoTat2

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:36 AM

PREMIER™.......... $124.99/mo.


Grandfathered Premier here (DVR fee waived), so its a $5.00 increase for me and to compound the problem my 24 mo. free HD access fee just ended this month. So now a total $15.00 increase. ... :(

Been a sub since '95, so unless I can get some discounts like getting the free HD access fee restored, I'm not going to make it. :nono2:

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:42 AM

The 25/23 WHOLE HOME/GENIE fee includes what ?

Does it include the 10 HD FEE + (EXTRA RECIVER FEES) the 2nd and 3rd and 4th C31 FEE + WHOLE HOME FEE + PROTECTION PLAN FEE + RSN FEE -- or some of these or other fees ?

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:46 AM

The single greatest expense is programming costs. D* will spend more than $10 billion per year on programming alone. So when your single largest expenditure goes up 10% last year, 8% this year and likely continues in the vein for years to come, it's worth pointing out.


However the increases outpace this cost and that's what causes frustration.

Let's say that programming costs increased $1B this year, with 20 million subs, that averages out to $50 per sub to cover the entire programming increase DirecTv anticipates - thats $4.17/month.

My bill increases by $7 per month between programming and fee costs. So I've covered my portion of the programming costs and more.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:55 AM

As others have asked, what is the "Advanced Receiver Fee?" I have two HR2xs with HD and Whole Home and have never heard of this fee before. Is it for the HR34?

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:56 AM

However the increases outpace this cost and that's what causes frustration.

Let's say that programming costs increased $1B this year, with 20 million subs, that averages out to $50 per sub to cover the entire programming increase DirecTv anticipates - thats $4.17/month.

My bill increases by $7 per month between programming and fee costs. So I've covered my portion of the programming costs and more.


But wait,there's more....
Programming cost are only part of the expense pie. Many other aspects to consider IE:Maintenance cost of equipment,development of new equipment,energy costs to run all the facilities and don't forget employee wages and insurance costs all of which go up every year....:nono2:

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:59 AM

The Advanced Receiver Fee is currently $20. That includes HD ($10), DVR ($8), and MRV ($3). Yes, the total is $21, but with it all rolled into one line item they discount it to $20.

The new fee will be $23. The DVR fee is going from $8 to $10. With the new fee, it appears that the $1 discount for having everything as one line item will disappear, so most people will see a $3 increase.

For those that pay for each item separately on your bill, I assume that it will continue that way, but you will see a $2 increase in the DVR fee.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

The Advanced Receiver Fee is currently $20. That includes HD ($10), DVR ($8), and MRV ($3). Yes, the total is $21, but with it all rolled into one line item they discount it to $20.

The new fee will be $23. The DVR fee is going from $8 to $10. With the new fee, it appears that the $1 discount for having everything as one line item will disappear, so most people will see a $3 increase.

For those that pay for each item separately on your bill, I assume that it will continue that way, but you will see a $2 increase in the DVR fee.

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What about people who get the GENIE but only have it hooked up to SD tv's ? do they then reduce the 10 HD fee from it ?

Also what about that promotion they were running -- FREE HD FOR LIFE ? which expires after 24 months (which is shady) is that reduced from the GENIE FEE ? and of FREE HD FOR LIFE EXPIRES (which by legal definition it cant - but companies rarely follow the law) how does one reactivate it ?

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:10 PM

I'm confused about the "Advanced Receiver" fee. I currently have 2 HD DVRs and 1 HD receiver. I do not have whole-home.

My current bill is as follows. How much will my bill go up?

Advanced Receiver-HD $10.00
Advanced Receiver-DVR $8.00

Additional TV $6.00
Additional TV $6.00
Primary TV $6.00
Primary TV Free -$6.00

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:16 PM

But wait,there's more....
Programming cost are only part of the expense pie. Many other aspects to consider IE:Maintenance cost of equipment,development of new equipment,energy costs to run all the facilities and don't forget employee wages and insurance costs all of which go up every year....:nono2:


True, and we could look at each one of those costs and develop a strategy to minimize or reduce each one.

But that's why you higher excessively priced CEOs and others far smarter than I to control those costs and creatively manage other expenses to keep the overall cost of the product down. If DirecTv, or any other provider, truly wanted to make a splash in the TV business how about lowering the price of the product while keeping the quality the same.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:23 PM

However the increases outpace this cost and that's what causes frustration.

Let's say that programming costs increased $1B this year, with 20 million subs, that averages out to $50 per sub to cover the entire programming increase DirecTv anticipates - thats $4.17/month.

My bill increases by $7 per month between programming and fee costs. So I've covered my portion of the programming costs and more.


Yes, and yet a customer with Entertainment and three standard receivers saw $0 increase for 2013.

Different increases in different areas. Entertainment doesn't have RSNs, one of the largest culprits of programming costs. Their prices didn't go up.

I think you are missing other costs as well. It's not just programming, that just happens to be the largest. Licensing fees for technology ranging from middlewear to DVRs to technology improvements, etc. Adding more HD channels, costs lots of money. Adding Directv Everywhere, costs lots of money. Launching a new satellite in 2014 (but building it now), costs lots of money.

So I think you need to add more billions to your numerator. My two cents.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:23 PM

True, and we could look at each one of those costs and develop a strategy to minimize or reduce each one.

But that's why you higher excessively priced CEOs and others far smarter than I to control those costs and creatively manage other expenses to keep the overall cost of the product down. If DirecTv, or any other provider, truly wanted to make a splash in the TV business how about lowering the price of the product while keeping the quality the same.


That would truly, indeed be a SPLASH!!!!:hurah:

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:25 PM

True, and we could look at each one of those costs and develop a strategy to minimize or reduce each one.

But that's why you higher excessively priced CEOs and others far smarter than I to control those costs and creatively manage other expenses to keep the overall cost of the product down. If DirecTv, or any other provider, truly wanted to make a splash in the TV business how about lowering the price of the product while keeping the quality the same.


All of that is being done, but you can't creatively wipe them all out, they are still going to increase. You can manage them to a point. You don't want to skimp on how to build a satellite or how to build out HD channels, etc.


It would also be really cool if HBO, ESPN, Viacom, Turner, A&E, Liberty, Showtime, CBS, NBC, FOX, etc, etc, wanted to make a splash in the TV business and lower their prices while keeping the quality the same, keep creating new shows, etc. Of course then the actors, writers, producers, directors, etc would have to lower their costs in producing those things. The leagues would have to lower their demands on licensing for sports, etc. You get the idea.

Edited by Satelliteracer, 27 December 2012 - 12:33 PM.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:28 PM

I wonder how long before I get squeezed out of my grandfathered package or how much they intend to raise the price on that.

I currently have the Choice Xtra + HD DVR @ $86.99/mo so I am not paying ala carte fees for HD or DVR/Advanced Receiver.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:29 PM

As others have asked, what is the "Advanced Receiver Fee?" I have two HR2xs with HD and Whole Home and have never heard of this fee before. Is it for the HR34?


Most new customers in 2012 have the Advanced Receiver fee where all the individual fees are bundled together..HD, MRV, DVR at $20. Customers that came in prior to that may have one or all of those services charged individually. For example, DVR $8, MRV $3, HD $10. It really depends how you receive it on your bill.

If you currently have Advanced Receiver Fee on your bill, then the appropriate change happens. If you don't, then it isn't applicable.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:30 PM

I wonder how long before I get squeezed out of my grandfathered package or how much they intend to raise the price on that.

I currently have the Choice Xtra + HD DVR @ $86.99/mo so I am not paying ala carte fees for HD or DVR/Advanced Receiver.


On your bill does it say PLUS HD DVR or something to that effect?
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:33 PM

On your bill does it say PLUS HD DVR or something to that effect?


Yes it does.

Current Charges for Service Period 12/01/12 - 12/30/12

12/01 12/30 PLUS HD DVR Monthly 86.99

12/01 12/30 DIRECTV HD EXTRA PACK Monthly 4.99

08/19 09/18 NFL SUNDAY TICKET 2012 Regular Season in 5 Payments 0.00

12/01 12/30 Advanced Receiver-DVR $8.00/mo Included in Base Pkg 0.00

12/01 12/30 DIRECTV Whole-Home DVR Service Monthly 3.00


Fees

12/02 Additional TV 6.00

12/02 Additional TV 6.00

12/02 Additional TV 6.00

12/02 Additional TV 6.00

12/02 Additional TV 6.00

12/02 Additional TV 6.00

12/02 Primary TV 6.00


Adjustments & Credits

10/31 11/30 Advanced Receiver-DVR Billing Adjustment -10.00 Credit

12/02 Primary TV Free -6.00 Credit


Taxes

Sales Tax 0.77

Communications Service Tax 14.49



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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:35 PM

Yes it does.

Current Charges for Service Period 12/01/12 - 12/30/12

12/01 12/30 PLUS HD DVR Monthly 86.99

12/01 12/30 DIRECTV HD EXTRA PACK Monthly 4.99

08/19 09/18 NFL SUNDAY TICKET 2012 Regular Season in 5 Payments 0.00

12/01 12/30 Advanced Receiver-DVR $8.00/mo Included in Base Pkg 0.00

12/01 12/30 DIRECTV Whole-Home DVR Service Monthly 3.00


That will change soon. You will be migrated to CHOICE XTRA CLASSIC and those fees broken out separately. No change in pricing, no change in programming, but just broken out in individual line items rather than bundled into that $86.99 package. Likely by your next bill. Many customers are already going through that process.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

I can't say I'm surprised. Thanks for the heads up.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:42 PM

All of that is being done, but you can't creatively wipe them all out, they are still going to increase. You can manage them to a point. You don't want to skimp on how to build a satellite or how to build out HD channels, etc.


It would also be really cool if HBO, ESPN, Viacom, Turner, A&E, Liberty, Showtime, CBS, NBC, FOX, etc, etc, wanted to make a splash in the TV business and lower their prices while keeping the quality the same, keep creating new shows, etc. They're all linked...there is a food chain here.


There are many monsters here, but since I pay DirecTv, my frustration is directed at them.

I had no intention of making this a bash against DirecTv, and I am well aware of other costs in play,but perhaps the big, bad corporation can do with a little less, especially after I read things like:

"Net income attributable to DIRECTV increased 19% to $2.61 billion in 2011"

http://investor.dire...eleaseID=649162

But then someone would have to look in the mirror and ask a very difficult question, "Who is more important to me - my customers or my shareholders?

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:45 PM

I can't say I'm surprised. Thanks for the heads up.


It's not a bad thing, more of a procedural thing. Part of a streamlining of systems and since it will have no impact on you in terms of pricing or channels, you will be fine. It's basically an elimination of additional SKUs is one way to look at it. More SKUs cost more money in development, more training for agents, etc.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:51 PM

There are many monsters here, but since I pay DirecTv, my frustration is directed at them.


The reality is, you are paying all of them....the sports leagues, the producers, directors, actors, the athletes, etc. You really are. One entity is collecting the payment, but you are paying them all.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:02 PM

It's not a bad thing, more of a procedural thing. Part of a streamlining of systems and since it will have no impact on you in terms of pricing or channels, you will be fine. It's basically an elimination of additional SKUs is one way to look at it. More SKUs cost more money in development, more training for agents, etc.


I understand and I'm good with it.

Seriously, thanks for the heads up. It's preferable to just having the bill show up in a new structure.

Just not entirely sure why the corporation didn't already let me know. But I understand that the bottom line effect is nil and I am not unhappy or surprised. And if in the end streamlining the system gains an efficiency then I'm all for it. Costs lost to inefficiency just get passed on to us.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:03 PM

What I find absolutely CRAZY is that it will cost me $16/mo extra to watch hockey (if there ever is a season) and that's just to get my RSN and NBCS. Adding the NHL network is another $7/mo (at least that one is included with Center Ice).

That's the price difference between Entertainment and Choice Extra (the lowest currently available package including RSN's and NBCS).

Perhaps it will just be for the best if my team moves to the great white north.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:18 PM

What about people who get the GENIE but only have it hooked up to SD tv's ? do they then reduce the 10 HD fee from it ?

Also what about that promotion they were running -- FREE HD FOR LIFE ? which expires after 24 months (which is shady) is that reduced from the GENIE FEE ? and of FREE HD FOR LIFE EXPIRES (which by legal definition it cant - but companies rarely follow the law) how does one reactivate it ?


HD monthly service is required when HD equipment is active on the account. The only exception to this are customers who are required to have HD equipment to recieve their locals. They can remove it if they wish, but that is the only time. (that is determined by zipcode).
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The Free HD for life promotion is for life, there is no expiration date on it and the 24 months free HD offer was completely different from it.
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Some promotions may have eligibility requirements to get them/not lose them/get them back (such as minimum base package, ABP, Paperless billing, etc). If you'd like more info on those requirements then I would contact a customer care agent who should be able to supply you with that information.

Edited by HinterXGames, 27 December 2012 - 01:28 PM.





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