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2013 DIRECTV Price Increases


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#151 OFFLINE   Spoonman27

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:17 PM

The problem I have with the rising costs is ESPN paying so much for programming and then trying to pass it along without us having a choice. I'm a sports fan but I wouldn't pay $8 a month for ESPN (or whatever distributors would charge after marking up ESPN's fees) except maybe during football season. I realize that my example is simplified but the point is these sports providers are essentially bidding on our behalf and if they overpay they just pass it on to us without most people realizing what has happened. And this will probably continue as long as people go nuts when a channel is removed from their lineup. I'm a huge Pac 12 fan (I even added Comcast solely for that channel for three months) but I don't have a big problem with directv saying "no thanks on your offer" because I'm sick of this cycle. At least with HBO you are dealing directly with them and if they raise prices you can easily opt out.

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#152 OFFLINE   LoopinFool

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:24 PM

I still have Choice XTRA Classic myself. But, I see XTRA is cheaper? I can never remember how it works out. I believe it is best to stay in the grandfathered package yes?

HERE is a post where I shared the channels I found XTRA Classic has that XTRA doesn't.
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#153 OFFLINE   jmpfaff

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:26 PM

+1 to Spoonman's comments

I'm a huge sports fan....and would really miss ESPN if it disappeared. But the rates are getting out of hand, and I really don't blame DirecTV anymore.

And as much as I'd love to have CSN Houston to see the Rockets play more often....I've got DirecTV's back on not paying $3+ per month for that channel....it just isn't worth that much.

PS -- Kudos to Sat Racer and the other DirecTV folks on this thread for taking the abuse with an understanding smile.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:48 PM

+1 to Spoonman's comments

I'm a huge sports fan....and would really miss ESPN if it disappeared. But the rates are getting out of hand, and I really don't blame DirecTV anymore.

And as much as I'd love to have CSN Houston to see the Rockets play more often....I've got DirecTV's back on not paying $3+ per month for that channel....it just isn't worth that much.

PS -- Kudos to Sat Racer and the other DirecTV folks on this thread for taking the abuse with an understanding smile.


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#155 OFFLINE   TomK

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:50 PM

I would love to be able to unsubscribe to ESPN. It will one day approach a 'premium' price and I think we should have the option to remove that from our channels. I think any channel's programming costs that are over $5 a month should be 'a la carte'.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:13 PM

I can't figure out their pricing scheme.

I have 2 HR24s 1 H24 and 1 H21 with MRV and Choice Extra.

How much will my bill change in 2013. I know the programming won't be much, but i can't figure out how much more I will be paying in equipment and DVR/MRV fees.

How much would I be paying if I got them to give me a Genie and 3 clients in exchange for my current equipment?

Thanks as always.

#157 OFFLINE   spartanstew

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:19 PM

I can't figure out their pricing scheme.

I have 2 HR24s 1 H24 and 1 H21 with MRV and Choice Extra.

How much will my bill change in 2013. I know the programming won't be much, but i can't figure out how much more I will be paying in equipment and DVR/MRV fees.

How much would I be paying if I got them to give me a Genie and 3 clients in exchange for my current equipment?

Thanks as always.


Choice Extra is going up $2. The DVR fee is also going up $2. If you currently have the bundled option (HD + DVR + WH) that's also going up $1.

So, your total bill will be going up $5.

As for your second part, it's a bit too vague. Your monthly costs would be the same as they are now, but there would obviously be an equipment charge.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:28 PM

I would love to be able to unsubscribe to ESPN. It will one day approach a 'premium' price and I think we should have the option to remove that from our channels. I think any channel's programming costs that are over $5 a month should be 'a la carte'.


My understanding with ESPN and this may be an issue with others, is ESPN requires a certain penetration rate of the customer base. Something rediculous in the 90's.
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If that is indeed the case, it would explain why you see few packages without it and not available as a premium option, and may prevent this from happening in the future. If i'm wrong on the penetration thing, i'm sure someone will correct me.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:33 PM

I can't figure out their pricing scheme.

I have 2 HR24s 1 H24 and 1 H21 with MRV and Choice Extra.

How much will my bill change in 2013. I know the programming won't be much, but i can't figure out how much more I will be paying in equipment and DVR/MRV fees.

How much would I be paying if I got them to give me a Genie and 3 clients in exchange for my current equipment?

Thanks as always.


If you have HD Monthly (10$), Whole home (3$), and DVR (8$) as seperate charges on your bill., then you will see a 2$ increase with DVR and with Choice Extra (current) another 2$ change, so a total of 4$ in increases.
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If you have 'Advanced Reciever' as a charge on your bill at 20$, then that is seeing a 3$ change and you will see a difference of 5$.
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As you can see both customers with Seperate charges for the 3 services or the single Advanced Reciever charge, will both being going to a total cost of 23$ for all 3 of the services. They will just be listed differently for people, depending on when they signed up.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:06 PM

Contract? When I signed up it was a 2 year contract for a bundle, they gave me a monthly bundle price for the 1st and 2nd year. The 1st year, the monthly price was somewhat higher, after quite a bit of hassle, got credit for most of the overage. The 2nd year the price of the bundle was A LOT higher. After many inquiries, DirecTV basically said my promotion period was over and they could charge whatever their price structure was - that they had no record of what I was quoted. Now it looks like it's going up more in the 2nd year. So, what is this "contract"? On my side, I am locked in for 2 years; on their side, they can charge what they want, and I have to pay it, and if I want to get out because they are charging more then quoted I pay THEM penalties???

#161 OFFLINE   spartanstew

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:09 PM

So, what is this "contract"? On my side, I am locked in for 2 years; on their side, they can charge what they want, and I have to pay it, and if I want to get out because they are charging more then quoted I pay THEM penalties???


Correct.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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#162 OFFLINE   bakerd

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:14 PM

Thanks, I'm not sure it was intended, but at least you made me chuckle.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:31 PM

I hope no one is under the misapprehension that the "contract" protects both parties.

These contracts may as well have been written by Tony Soprano's lawyers.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:40 PM

Oh, great, now I have all sorts of new ideas of what happens if I don't pay...

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:43 PM

Thanks, I'm not sure it was intended, but at least you made me chuckle.

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This is from the customer agreement: Our Programming Changes. Many factors affect the availability, cost and quality of programming and may influence the decision to raise prices and the amount of any increase. These include, among others, programming and other costs, consumer demand, market and shareholder expectations, and changing business conditions. Accordingly, we must reserve the unrestricted right to change, rearrange, add or delete our programming packages, the selections in those packages, our prices, and any other Service we offer, at any time.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:50 PM

So if I may paraphrase: We shall charge what we want, and you shall pay.
If you do not pay what we want, you shall pay.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:53 PM

Oh, great, now I have all sorts of new ideas of what happens if I don't pay...


Well, the good news is that you would probably eventually prevail in court as a jury is highly unlikely to back DirecTVs view of the contract terms.

The bad news is eventually is a long time away, the collection agencies will have had a lot of fun with you, and your lawyer costs would far exceed the amount of the early termination fee, so you might as well just live out the contract. :nono2:

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:59 PM

Maybe there is a law firm that will take it on for the thousands that have been defrauded, collect millions, and the distribute the pennies that are left...

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:07 PM

Maybe there is a law firm that will take it on for the thousands that have been defrauded, collect millions, and the distribute the pennies that are left...


If there were a basis for claiming fraud, you can bet your sweet a** that some schemer would start a class action suit, and you're right about the distribution....

But there's not a hint of fraud here. Misunderstanding by some customers, yes, but not even deception, much less fraud. That's an ugly word.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:10 PM

Maybe there is a law firm that will take it on for the thousands that have been defrauded, collect millions, and the distribute the pennies that are left...


Except the customers were not defrauded..

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#171 OFFLINE   bakerd

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

OK, to quote one price, then charge another is generally considered "bait and switch", is at best misleading, and at worst, if you could prove intent, fraud...

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:16 PM

I am a sports fan and not in dire need of ESPN. I'd miss things for sure but could live with the loss to be honest. Even the ESPNtoGo I wrote about getting with Fios above.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:32 PM

Thank you!

HERE is a post where I shared the channels I found XTRA Classic has that XTRA doesn't.
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#174 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:38 PM

OK, to quote one price, then charge another is generally considered "bait and switch", is at best misleading, and at worst, if you could prove intent, fraud...


No it isn't. Prices and availability have always been subject to change with every single service provider. This is nothing new. We've had a couple of decades to get used to it.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:38 PM

OK, to quote one price, then charge another is generally considered "bait and switch", is at best misleading, and at worst, if you could prove intent, fraud...


Did you read post 165?

And Bait and Switch is generally getting someone interested in a product, or store, by offering a low price, then telling the prospect you're out of it, but here's a better thing, yeah, more expensive, but worth it.
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