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#141 OFFLINE   fireponcoal

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:48 AM

My rate is now locked in for two years(starting in Jan. at least) with the Twenty dollar premium package locked down as well. :)
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I hear you and agree though.

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#142 OFFLINE   Alan Gordon

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:54 AM

So...

I have Choice Xtra Classic (with locals), along with the HD Extra Package, and six DNS feeds (CBS, The CW, and ABC). HD, DVR, WHDVR, and multiple receivers.

I saw no mention of the HD Extra package or DNS feeds going up, so it looks like I'm in for a $5.00 increase... :(

I see no reason to complain. We all knew it was coming. I'm under a two year contract, so I'll obviously be sticking around, but as usual, every price increase with DirecTV brings me that much closer to cancelling one year soon.

I'd seriously consider switching to the Entertainment package if that package included a couple of MUST-HAVE channels that I currently receive, but alas, it includes quite a few channels I don't care about, and doesn't include several of the most important ones needed at this household, so it's not really a good option for me.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:40 AM

Luckily I have 54 dollars worth of bill credits that some will expire next month and try to negotiate for more credits if I can, even if they expire some family members and other people in this household is helping pay the bill, if that didn't happen I would of cancel a long time ago which I still might consider knowing how some of the same programming or movies I can watch online.

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#144 OFFLINE   PCampbell

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:53 AM

Enough! I don't "blame" DirecTV and not unexpected but I have just finally reached my "personal" limit. The proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.

After ~8 years with DirecTV I have scheduled my triple-play FIOS install for 1/3/13. Saving in year 1 $80/month and $60/month in year 2 PLUS (not included in computed savings) getting HBO & SHO which actually adds another ~$27/mo savings (not that I wanted it but it was "included") plus 75/25(?)MB internet up from 15/5MB. Again, not needed but part of the package. Oh, plus a $300 visa gift card and a 2year rate lock which effectively adds another $12/month savings over the 2 year contract which was not included in my computation.

I will miss DirecTV but I have to reduce costs just as I reduced my cell phone from $90+taxes/month on AT&T to $28/month inc taxes on T-Mo prepaid with 3X the data at 2x+ the speed of their LTE (around here anyway).

That's well over $125/MONTH savings between the 2. That's a lot.

Will put DirecTV on "suspension" for the "30 day satisfaction guarantee" on Fios just to be sure.

Only thing I will really miss is my 5 tuner HR34 + 2 tuner HR24 but will still have 4 tuners on 2 DVR's. Not a sports watcher (except local teams) so won't be missing any of that.


In two years do change to Dish? They all offer a great price to start then its more of the same.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:56 AM

Isn't it amazing the expenses we pay that our parents' generation didn't have. Pay TV, multiple cell phones, Internet service...no wonder it was easier to survive on one income. Not necessarily easy, but easier.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:01 AM

Isn't it amazing the expenses we pay that our parents' generation didn't have. Pay TV, multiple cell phones, Internet service...no wonder it was easier to survive on one income. Not necessarily easy, but easier.


I pay over 200 a month that I did not pay when we got Married.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:01 AM

The timing coincides with all the increases in the contracts providers have with programmers. Most of them are calendarized, so at the beginning of the year the rates go up for D*, Dish, TWC, Fios, etc, etc. Not all deals, but many. This is why you see some providers actually have increases go into effect in December or January. Some have had two price increases in the same year.

Yes, I remember those simpler times as well. I really do. I remember when programming costs were mostly tied to COLA and as such, rate increases were small or even non existent. Then about 6 or 7 years ago (if memory serves), things started to get sideways on many of the programming deals with some big jumps. Then when the economy tanked 5 years ago, many of the programmers weren't getting advertising revenues they used to get so they started to extract dollars from subscribers with higher programming cost demands...they needed to recoup revenues somewhere.

I understand the backlash, but I also look at the value. Avg customer pays less than $3 a day for 200 channels that are on 24/7 on multiple tvs delivering news, sports, entertainment, etc. $3 a day on average. When I look at it through that lens, I know there is tremendous value for the money as well..but that value is measured differently by each person. I don't like coffee, the idea of someone spending $5 on coffee multiple times per day is completely mind boggling to me. But that's me. Everyone see value differently...whether it is coffee, tv, mobile service, or whatever.

You can always apply the "Reduce-To-Ridiculous" sales technique to make something sound inexpensive. And I do fit the $3/day average you mention, which is not a bad value. I just liked it better when it was $2/day.

I would actually hate to go back to the content offered during the simpler time I mentioned. Back to a time when a transplanted sports fan could hardly ever watch his or her favorite team on TV. Even though it was closer to a $1/day back then, with only 33 stations, the cost/station was more then double the current cost.

I did a search for an old cable channel lineup and found one for a cable company I once had, Storer Cable. Here is a link to an article from 1993 announcing a change in the channel line up. Here is part of the article showing pricing:

Storer Cable subscribers, accustomed to flicking their remote controls to one set of channels, may have noticed some changes earlier this week.

That`s because the cable company changed the channel lineup to group together broadcast networks and cable networks by category, said Scott Norwood, state manager for Storer/TCI.

The change affects Storer customers in north Dade and southwest Broward, including Pembroke Pines and Miramar.

In addition, the changes were made to make way for a new level of service.

The new level -- known as basic service -- consists of 12 channels and costs $10 per month. It was created so the company would comply with new cable legislation that went into effect on Thursday.

The 1992 Cable Act requires cable companies to offer a low-cost, basic level of service.

Storer`s 12-channel basic service consists of broadcast, public, educational and government access channels.

Customers can purchase another level -- so-called expanded basic -- to get 21 additional channels, including ESPN, USA, TNT, Discovery, WTBS, Nickelodeon and CNN. It costs $23.45 per month.

And subscribers back then seemed to complain as much as we do in this article.

"I have to pay almost $2 more for a bunch of stuff I don't want," said Jeffrey D'Annolofo of Pembroke Pines. "I don't feel, as a consumer, that I have any choice here. It doesn't seem fair."

He and others will see rates from TCI of South Florida go up by $1.79. TCI's south Broward customers will get five new channels: E! Entertainment, Country Music TV, CSPAN2, Mind Extension University and TV Guide on Screen.

"It's a bunch of junk," D'Annolofo said.


Edited by RACJ2, 28 December 2012 - 11:08 AM.

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#148 OFFLINE   Laxguy

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:27 AM

So, the more things change, the more they remain the same?? :lol:

Plus ça change.....

Certainly the complaints haven't changed a lot!
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#149 OFFLINE   Jtaylor1

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:44 AM

My bill will be $155, while the additional and primary TV fees remains the same.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:06 PM

I still have Choice XTRA Classic myself. But, I see XTRA is cheaper? I can never remember how it works out. I believe it is best to stay in the grandfathered package yes?

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:17 PM

The problem I have with the rising costs is ESPN paying so much for programming and then trying to pass it along without us having a choice. I'm a sports fan but I wouldn't pay $8 a month for ESPN (or whatever distributors would charge after marking up ESPN's fees) except maybe during football season. I realize that my example is simplified but the point is these sports providers are essentially bidding on our behalf and if they overpay they just pass it on to us without most people realizing what has happened. And this will probably continue as long as people go nuts when a channel is removed from their lineup. I'm a huge Pac 12 fan (I even added Comcast solely for that channel for three months) but I don't have a big problem with directv saying "no thanks on your offer" because I'm sick of this cycle. At least with HBO you are dealing directly with them and if they raise prices you can easily opt out.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:24 PM

I still have Choice XTRA Classic myself. But, I see XTRA is cheaper? I can never remember how it works out. I believe it is best to stay in the grandfathered package yes?

HERE is a post where I shared the channels I found XTRA Classic has that XTRA doesn't.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:26 PM

+1 to Spoonman's comments

I'm a huge sports fan....and would really miss ESPN if it disappeared. But the rates are getting out of hand, and I really don't blame DirecTV anymore.

And as much as I'd love to have CSN Houston to see the Rockets play more often....I've got DirecTV's back on not paying $3+ per month for that channel....it just isn't worth that much.

PS -- Kudos to Sat Racer and the other DirecTV folks on this thread for taking the abuse with an understanding smile.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:48 PM

+1 to Spoonman's comments

I'm a huge sports fan....and would really miss ESPN if it disappeared. But the rates are getting out of hand, and I really don't blame DirecTV anymore.

And as much as I'd love to have CSN Houston to see the Rockets play more often....I've got DirecTV's back on not paying $3+ per month for that channel....it just isn't worth that much.

PS -- Kudos to Sat Racer and the other DirecTV folks on this thread for taking the abuse with an understanding smile.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:50 PM

I would love to be able to unsubscribe to ESPN. It will one day approach a 'premium' price and I think we should have the option to remove that from our channels. I think any channel's programming costs that are over $5 a month should be 'a la carte'.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:13 PM

I can't figure out their pricing scheme.

I have 2 HR24s 1 H24 and 1 H21 with MRV and Choice Extra.

How much will my bill change in 2013. I know the programming won't be much, but i can't figure out how much more I will be paying in equipment and DVR/MRV fees.

How much would I be paying if I got them to give me a Genie and 3 clients in exchange for my current equipment?

Thanks as always.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:19 PM

I can't figure out their pricing scheme.

I have 2 HR24s 1 H24 and 1 H21 with MRV and Choice Extra.

How much will my bill change in 2013. I know the programming won't be much, but i can't figure out how much more I will be paying in equipment and DVR/MRV fees.

How much would I be paying if I got them to give me a Genie and 3 clients in exchange for my current equipment?

Thanks as always.


Choice Extra is going up $2. The DVR fee is also going up $2. If you currently have the bundled option (HD + DVR + WH) that's also going up $1.

So, your total bill will be going up $5.

As for your second part, it's a bit too vague. Your monthly costs would be the same as they are now, but there would obviously be an equipment charge.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:28 PM

I would love to be able to unsubscribe to ESPN. It will one day approach a 'premium' price and I think we should have the option to remove that from our channels. I think any channel's programming costs that are over $5 a month should be 'a la carte'.


My understanding with ESPN and this may be an issue with others, is ESPN requires a certain penetration rate of the customer base. Something rediculous in the 90's.
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If that is indeed the case, it would explain why you see few packages without it and not available as a premium option, and may prevent this from happening in the future. If i'm wrong on the penetration thing, i'm sure someone will correct me.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:33 PM

I can't figure out their pricing scheme.

I have 2 HR24s 1 H24 and 1 H21 with MRV and Choice Extra.

How much will my bill change in 2013. I know the programming won't be much, but i can't figure out how much more I will be paying in equipment and DVR/MRV fees.

How much would I be paying if I got them to give me a Genie and 3 clients in exchange for my current equipment?

Thanks as always.


If you have HD Monthly (10$), Whole home (3$), and DVR (8$) as seperate charges on your bill., then you will see a 2$ increase with DVR and with Choice Extra (current) another 2$ change, so a total of 4$ in increases.
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If you have 'Advanced Reciever' as a charge on your bill at 20$, then that is seeing a 3$ change and you will see a difference of 5$.
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As you can see both customers with Seperate charges for the 3 services or the single Advanced Reciever charge, will both being going to a total cost of 23$ for all 3 of the services. They will just be listed differently for people, depending on when they signed up.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:06 PM

Contract? When I signed up it was a 2 year contract for a bundle, they gave me a monthly bundle price for the 1st and 2nd year. The 1st year, the monthly price was somewhat higher, after quite a bit of hassle, got credit for most of the overage. The 2nd year the price of the bundle was A LOT higher. After many inquiries, DirecTV basically said my promotion period was over and they could charge whatever their price structure was - that they had no record of what I was quoted. Now it looks like it's going up more in the 2nd year. So, what is this "contract"? On my side, I am locked in for 2 years; on their side, they can charge what they want, and I have to pay it, and if I want to get out because they are charging more then quoted I pay THEM penalties???




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