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New Rates? HBO Increase - It Pays to Complain


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#26 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:04 PM

Nah, then you'd just complain when Netflix and Redbox raised their rates.
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Don't forget data caps, or increase in Internet access price.

I was actually surprised when Redbox increased DVD prices 20% that they didn't raise Blu-Ray prices.

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#27 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

Swampland doesn't count.


Even that has been going up. :lol:
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:12 PM

I will say out of all the Premiums, with HBO increasing, at least the content they provide is high quality. Really, HBO is the standard in original series production, and there's a reason why they have some of the most popular ones out there, even in comparison to showtime.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:26 PM

Fans are on high in this thread. lol

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:51 PM

Multiply that $18 by every show you watch...

Oh, and I challenge you to find an HBO series that costs less than $50 to $60 per season to own on disc.


Sorry, I had to. This is a current show that is selling at a lower than $50 price tag.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:05 PM

Does anyone know if you can subscribe ONLY to the premium channels? And drop the 'choice' package? It irritates me more & more to have to pay so much money for a package of programming that is 30% Geico & Progressive commericals. And the actual programming is foolishness like real housewives and 50 most shocking whatevers. But I need my HBO & Showtime programs.

Will DirecTV allow this or do you have to have a base package to reach the premiums?

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:06 PM

Sorry, I had to. This is a current show that is selling at a lower than $50 price tag.

http://www.bestbuy.c...33&st=boardwalk empire&lp=1&cp=1


Not by much and clearly over $18.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:11 PM

Does anyone know if you can subscribe ONLY to the premium channels? And drop the 'choice' package? It irritates me more & more to have to pay so much money for a package of programming that is 30% Geico & Progressive commericals. And the actual programming is foolishness like real housewives and 50 most shocking whatevers. But I need my HBO & Showtime programs.

Will DirecTV allow this or do you have to have a base package to reach the premiums?


You have to have a base package, like Entertainment. Not sure if its available with the Family package.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:12 PM

Does anyone know if you can subscribe ONLY to the premium channels? And drop the 'choice' package? It irritates me more & more to have to pay so much money for a package of programming that is 30% Geico & Progressive commericals. And the actual programming is foolishness like real housewives and 50 most shocking whatevers. But I need my HBO & Showtime programs.

Will DirecTV allow this or do you have to have a base package to reach the premiums?


Pretty sure you need a base package. They do, however, have some pretty stripped down base packages for like $29 I think. You need to call and ask for them, they arent advertised. One used to be called SELECT. It was replaced by something else of similar name, but about the same price.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:15 PM

Ad if you are getting free HD, that goes out the window if you drop too far. Even just getting HBO and Family, with HD you are still talking $60, without DVR etc.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

Does anyone know if you can subscribe ONLY to the premium channels? And drop the 'choice' package? It irritates me more & more to have to pay so much money for a package of programming that is 30% Geico & Progressive commericals. And the actual programming is foolishness like real housewives and 50 most shocking whatevers. But I need my HBO & Showtime programs.

Will DirecTV allow this or do you have to have a base package to reach the premiums?


Must have base package
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:02 PM

I completely agree the biggest driving force behind the customer price increase is the higher fees being required by content owners. However, lets not be naive. The number one priority of D* is stockholders, not customers.

Some posters keep repeating that D* fights to keep customer costs down. This is only true to the point that it benefits, not hurts profit margins for stockholders. As much as we the customer would like to think we are the primary reason D* makes content and price decisions, we are not. That is why no matter how much we complain on forums such as this, we have very little influence on D*. The only time customers have any power is when they organize en masse to make a statement and I think we all know that just isn't going to happen in this situation.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:17 PM

Heeeeeee's baaaaaack......fits the thread.......

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:54 PM

Yeah, no kidding!

I've never in my life heard someone say "Those were so much more expensive when I was your age".


I paid 700.00 + installation cost for my first Motorola wireless phone that you just made calls on - 5 watts of transmit recieve power, for christmas I paid full retail price for my 12 yr olds phone that does the exact same thing - paid 49.99 for it.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:15 PM

I paid 700.00 + installation cost for my first Motorola wireless phone that you just made calls on - 5 watts of transmit recieve power, for christmas I paid full retail price for my 12 yr olds phone that does the exact same thing - paid 49.99 for it.


That's a device, not a service though.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:27 PM

I paid 700.00 + installation cost for my first Motorola wireless phone that you just made calls on - 5 watts of transmit recieve power, for christmas I paid full retail price for my 12 yr olds phone that does the exact same thing - paid 49.99 for it.


FCC SAR limit is 1.6W/Kg..max was more like 3W back in the 90s and 0.6W (motorola) today..just sayin..

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:32 PM

Does anyone know if you can subscribe ONLY to the premium channels? And drop the 'choice' package? It irritates me more & more to have to pay so much money for a package of programming that is 30% Geico & Progressive commericals. And the actual programming is foolishness like real housewives and 50 most shocking whatevers. But I need my HBO & Showtime programs.

Will DirecTV allow this or do you have to have a base package to reach the premiums?


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:12 PM

I completely agree the biggest driving force behind the customer price increase is the higher fees being required by content owners. However, lets not be naive. The number one priority of D* is stockholders, not customers.


I don't agree with this. I have to live it everyday with our management and they push hard that there are multiple priorities. Of course stockholders are one, but customers is every bit at the top of the food chain. If it wasn't, there are many areas the company spends money on that they wouldn't but only do so to keep customers happy and the product moving forward.

I've worked at a number of Fortune 500 companies and some are definitely stockholder first. I do not put D* in that group. It is possible to serve both, and in fact it can be done where it yields fruitful results for both.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 07:53 PM

I don't agree with this. I have to live it everyday with our management and they push hard that there are multiple priorities. Of course stockholders are one, but customers is every bit at the top of the food chain. If it wasn't, there are many areas the company spends money on that they wouldn't but only do so to keep customers happy and the product moving forward.

I've worked at a number of Fortune 500 companies and some are definitely stockholder first. I do not put D* in that group. It is possible to serve both, and in fact it can be done where it yields fruitful results for both.


That's good to know. Thanks for the clarification.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

As much as we all hate them, yearly price increases are on any satellite or cable service. It is like Christmas, you know it is going to be a yearly event.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:01 AM

Not by much and clearly over $18.


Not meaning to fan any flames, but I dont think the point was that you could get a series for $18, but rather was to compare the yearly HBO price of $216 ($18 per month for 12 months) to what you might spend that $ on instead.

Consistent to the OP of this point, you could buy full seasons of 4-6 shows on DVD for the same $ you spend in a year on HBO. If you have to have your HBO for that 1 show (or even 2 or 3) then you are potentially wasting money paying $18 a month for it. If you watch a ton of HBO programming, then perhaps you get you $'s worth from the subscription.

I like HBO, and feel they have a lot of high end content. However, I'm in that camp that just doesn't consistently get $216 a year of value from it. If I'm lucky, I have time to consistently watch maybe 5 shows total across all networks, so I don't feel I have the time to get enough value from a single network to justify spending extra $ for it. I can spend half that much in a year on select movie rentals/ppv purchases along with Netflix or select DVDs and get more value (perceived by me) than I would if I paid the $ to subscribe to HBO.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:53 AM

I don't have a huge problem with the increase then again I'm also a premier sub so its not going up for me (yet)... But that said I would be happy to continue paying for HBO up to maybe even at 23-25 a month.... I don't find as much value in Cinemax, or Starz so probably around 15-17 max for now on it, and Showtime would sit around 18-20 a month. Maybe this is just me, but I find huge value in these channels for the series, and will compensate them for there great job. I don't even watch movies much on them.... but others in my house do so it's used for that reason also.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:18 AM

They should not agree to the increases to start with. As a TV consumer I can not deal directly with the content provider. I can however deal with Directv.

I do have a choice. Fortunately for me DirectTV is NOT a necessity. I could go on living just fine with only OTA (free) and Netflix streaming (a huge Value at only $8 a month) and an occasional cheap Redbox rental. In fact since I currently spend close to $100 a month on Directv I could even splurge a little on a few VUDU rentals and buy some BlueRay DVD's - and still save $$ over what I am paying now to DTV.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:39 AM

If direct is loosing so much money by giving the op a discount since its the providers they have to pay, why are they so quick to give the discount? If my business would lose money by providing the dicount i would have let the op cancel. I have the premier nad am grandfathered on a few things however, i also know some people that have the same package and do not have he grandfathering and their bill is the same as mine. Same number of dvrs except a little newer.i am getting tired ofhe message service telling me hey free starz, showtimetime etc, when i am paying for it already in my premier package. If they are going to give away free service they should pop up with a auto discount for the subscrbers that are paying during the free service i have had directv for a while now and it has been relativly good , butball my boxes are getting old, and with the new technology out there , it isnt really worth paying 200 a month for tv service anymore. Really, is there actually anything being broadcast now, that youre looking foward to watching. Thats the boat i'm in and is starting to take on water.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:46 AM

If direct is loosing so much money by giving the op a discount since its the providers they have to pay, why are they so quick to give the discount? If my business would lose money by providing the dicount i would have let the op cancel. I have the premier nad am grandfathered on a few things however, i also know some people that have the same package and do not have he grandfathering and their bill is the same as mine. Same number of dvrs except a little newer.i am getting tired ofhe message service telling me hey free starz, showtimetime etc, when i am paying for it already in my premier package. If they are going to give away free service they should pop up with a auto discount for the subscrbers that are paying during the free service i have had directv for a while now and it has been relativly good , butball my boxes are getting old, and with the new technology out there , it isnt really worth paying 200 a month for tv service anymore. Really, is there actually anything being broadcast now, that youre looking foward to watching. Thats the boat i'm in and is starting to take on water.

My spell-checker almost blew up reviewing that post. :eek2:

I don't think most folks would disagree that overall Pay-TV subscription costs are getting quite high, and that in some cases they've passed the tipping point of people retaining their current levels of service.

Promotional discounts (all of which are temporary and attempts to get some of those folks keeping those additional services/channels) are offered by the content providers and then passed on via services like DirecTV...it costs them virtually nothing to pass those promotional discounts on to their customers.

Then again, people can get plenty of HDTV for much less than $200 a month.
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