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#1 OFFLINE   wcalifas254

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:05 AM

Well I still have a RCA DRD420 receiver in use with MPG guide and still haven't gotten the call to replace it. I've heard stories that they're getting ready to make the MPG receivers obsolete. So when's the actual date for that? Anyone know?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:32 AM

I thought it was 1/1 and im hopefull they have reconsidered....

I dont wanna lose my program guide.. (Although now most of the channels are not using MPG anymore anyway so i dont see that guide data.. (I dont wanna lose what i have had left the last year or so and i dont wanna have to get rid of my RCA reciever (Best reciever they ever allowed to be made for directv)))

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

I thought it was 1/1 and im hopefull they have reconsidered....

I dont wanna lose my program guide.. (Although now most of the channels are not using MPG anymore anyway so i dont see that guide data.. (I dont wanna lose what i have had left the last year or so and i dont wanna have to give my my RCA reciever (Best reciever they ever allowed to be made for directv)))


What model of RCA receiver are you using?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:50 AM

Well I still have a RCA DRD420 receiver in use with MPG guide and still haven't gotten the call to replace it. I've heard stories that they're getting ready to make the MPG receivers obsolete. So when's the actual date for that? Anyone know?


It's starting right now in some DMAs, but depending on where you live it may be a few months before you are contacted.

The dates are still in flux for the rest of the country.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:46 PM

(I dont wanna lose what i have had left the last year or so and i dont wanna have to give my my RCA reciever (Best reciever they ever allowed to be made for directv)))


LOL because it didnt do anything. Tht is like saying a bicycle is better than a car because the bike never breaks down. :D:D:D

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:00 PM

It's starting right now in some DMAs, but depending on where you live it may be a few months before you are contacted.

The dates are still in flux for the rest of the country.


now does that box they swapping out owned? rented with no 1-2 year lock in?

just asking.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

So I hear that these receivers with mpg will not work anymore. Will it be the guide that won't show anything or will the receivers not get a signal anymore?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

It will get SAME signal just fine; it's FW [SW] what will not discover System Info/EPG (that's what MPG means) eg no channel list, no sats, no tpns, no EPG.
Like your brain will be cleared of all basic instincts. :D

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

now does that box they swapping out owned? rented with no 1-2 year lock in?

just asking.


No commitment. It is a leased receiver, but the net net is no additional charge for the customer and no commitment on the service. It's just a very outdated guide that consumes bandwidth, resources, and costly to maintain for what amounts to not very many receivers out there that are alive in the field utilizing it.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:24 PM

It will get SAME signal just fine; it's FW [SW] what will not discover System Info/EPG (that's what MPG means) eg no channel list, no sats, no tpns, no EPG.
Like your brain will be cleared of all basic instincts. :D


Just curious, but does the old MPG stream packets still use PID 9?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

And 0x5XX PIDs and a few from beginning ... we will see when the stream will be ceased ... I'm more curious about 0002 ;)

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:19 PM

No commitment. It is a leased receiver, but the net net is no additional charge for the customer and no commitment on the service. It's just a very outdated guide that consumes bandwidth, resources, and costly to maintain for what amounts to not very many receivers out there that are alive in the field utilizing it.


Will people get new HD boxes and dish's with that swap out?
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:23 PM

Will people get new HD boxes and dish's with that swap out?


If they have SD now, they wont be given HD to replace it if thats what you're asking. They still have current technology sd stuff.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:01 AM

What model of RCA receiver are you using?

I have THE SAME ONE YOU HAVE :) (DRD420)

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:54 AM

I have THE SAME ONE YOU HAVE :) (DRD420)


Well I haven't received a call yet to replace that 420 have you?

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:49 AM

Well I haven't received a call yet to replace that 420 have you?


California is further down the list, you will get a communication later in the year.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 08:08 PM

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:14 PM

Well I haven't received a call yet to replace that 420 have you?

They have called several times but i havent answered the phone for fear they would try and get my RCA away from me....... I DONT WANT ONE OF THIER NEWER CRAP IRDs!! (1 or 2 times i have talked to them and they tried to get my BOX off my acct and i explained that I am not interested in HD,etc....... I like my basic IRD and the speed is excellent and i dont wanna lose that) -- I dont care if i dont see the channel data really (I dont see 1/2 of them now anyway!),i have been a customer for about 14 years and i love DTV......... I dont want that to change!

Why dont they just start charging a little bit MORE MONEY to provide the MPG data to older boxs??

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:37 PM

They have called several times but i havent answered the phone for fear they would try and get my RCA away from me....... I DONT WANT ONE OF THIER NEWER CRAP IRDs!! (1 or 2 times i have talked to them and they tried to get my BOX off my acct and i explained that I am not interested in HD,etc....... I like my basic IRD and the speed is excellent and i dont wanna lose that) -- I dont care if i dont see the channel data really (I dont see 1/2 of them now anyway!),i have been a customer for about 14 years and i love DTV......... I dont want that to change!

Why dont they just start charging a little bit MORE MONEY to provide the MPG data to older boxs??


The SD bandwidth it will free up is significantly more valuable than the few dollars they could make by asking people to pay extra for obsolete receivers (which is probably no people. Maybe two or three customers total?)

If you live in an MPEG-2 market you'll get a D12 and new remote for the swap.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:43 PM

Why dont they just start charging a little bit MORE MONEY to provide the MPG data to older boxs??


Ok, it will cost you $300,00 per year. Can you handle that?:lol:

Just a number I through out I have no idea what it cost.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:35 AM

They have called several times but i havent answered the phone for fear they would try and get my RCA away from me....... I DONT WANT ONE OF THIER NEWER CRAP IRDs!! (1 or 2 times i have talked to them and they tried to get my BOX off my acct and i explained that I am not interested in HD,etc....... I like my basic IRD and the speed is excellent and i dont wanna lose that) -- I dont care if i dont see the channel data really (I dont see 1/2 of them now anyway!),i have been a customer for about 14 years and i love DTV......... I dont want that to change!

Why dont they just start charging a little bit MORE MONEY to provide the MPG data to older boxs??



You won't be getting an HD receiver, but actually SD receivers. Much more memory, faster processor, etc, etc. I understand the reluctance, but at the same time it would be like having a separate highway system for cars that only make up 1% of the population.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:53 AM

Can someone give me an estimate of the time left for the mpg guide to be in the stream?

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:40 AM

Can someone give me an estimate of the time left for the mpg guide to be in the stream?


It will be on a DMA by DMA basis. Some will happen sooner, some will happen later. Depends on the size of your DMA, how long it takes to transition customers off, etc.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:50 AM

Well, the one remaining MPG box I had just got replaced.

I was waiting for DirecTV to contact me about it but I logged into my account at directv.com and was being offered a free HD DVR so I took that and when I activated it I deactivated the old Hughes HIRD-E11.

My only remaining legacy boxes are two R10 DirecTiVOs and where they are located upgrading to HD is not a priority. The office and the dining room with an RF out wire run through the wall into the laundry room. I listen more than I watch in those places.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

IMHO, if Directv is swapping boxes why not replace them with MPEG4-compatible hardware? Converting all channels to MPEG4 will free up much more bandwidth than eliminating the mpg guide.




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