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Dish: "The meanest company in America"?


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#26 OFFLINE   Ray C@DISH Network

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:01 AM

No, I speak from the positive side... the Force by with me!

Does that include your posts? :sure:



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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:21 AM

No, I speak from the positive side... the Force by with me!

And from the side that gets paid! :lol:

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:38 AM

The problem here is... former employees are usually former employees for a reason. Either they left on their own OR were fired... Obviously fired people will have a negative opinion... and most people leaving voluntarily are doing so because of bad feelings.

So... it would be like doing a survey of patients in the emergency room and then extrapolating it to determine that ALL people are sick ALL the time.


Maybe, but when one becomes two, two becomes four, four becomes eight....patterns are hard to ignore.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:31 AM

I find dish to be exceptionally good. Never experienced a bad employee on the phone. Directs equipment sucks. I had them for years and their receiver had constant problems. Dish may not be perfect, but, they are close enough. As far as their employee's, that's not my concern. No job is great today but its a paying job. I am a customer and all that counts is how I am treated which has been stellar so far.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:37 AM

So... it would be like doing a survey of patients in the emergency room and then extrapolating it to determine that ALL people are sick ALL the time.


Or asking people in jails about their experiences with the police and the courts.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

the truth hurts buster

Yeah, you're absolutely right, the truth can hurt ... and I do feel your pain bub. :lol:

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:57 AM

From the article (emphasis added):

Although Dish had more than 100 people employed in its marketing department and reams of customer data to analyze, when it came time to figure out how much it was going to charge for satellite service, Ergen went into his office and came up with the final number alone. “It would be like the CEO of Kraft (KRFT) getting up in the morning and determining how much they were going to charge at retail for 12 slices of American cheese,” says [Former President and CEO] Neuman. “It wasn’t that he didn’t invite input or share his thought process, because he did both. It’s just that he’d had his hands on the wheel for so long that he trusted his own judgment the best.”

What made it worse, Neuman says, is that Ergen was almost always right. Eight months after accepting the job, Neuman resigned.

Basically, it's Charlie's company as founder and majority shareholder. When he's right he wins and when he's wrong he loses.

The man's known to be combative and aggressive with a strong "you can't do that to me" attitude. The question is: "How do you like your Hopper?" It could only come from a company aggressively willing take on the media industry. And that company is owned by Charlie. If you choose to go to work for Dish, that's who you're working for.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:06 AM

I choose to do business with those who are ethical and well run. Therefore, I choose not to do business with Dish Network.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:42 AM

I choose to do business with those who are ethical and well run. Therefore, I choose not to do business with Dish Network.

The terms "ethical" and "well run" are subjective.

In the corporate world according to Wall Street "well run" means "makes money today" and nothing more.

In my world, I choose to do business with those who offer products I want based on quality, features, convenience, and price. I've used Echostar/Dish equipment since 1988 beginning with C-band.

I have no idea about the "ethics" of a major company because I don't have credible sources beyond my own experience. If I really were to focus deeply on morality, I'd "live off the grid", walk everywhere, eat vegan, not use any electronics of any kind, give most of my retirement income to the needy, and slowly go crazy.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:48 AM

I'm not sure if its different for salary folks, but I (and all the other hourly dish employees I know) get 7 paid holidays a year (new years, easter, fourth of july, labor day, thanksgiving, black friday, and christmas), and if I work on the holiday, I get the holiday pay plus my regular pay. So, not sure where the no paid holidays part comes from, unless its salary folks.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:55 PM

Maybe, but when one becomes two, two becomes four, four becomes eight....patterns are hard to ignore.


What pattern? That disgruntled ex-employees are disgruntled?

Again, not defending Dish... I don't know enough to do so... but seriously, what pattern emerges by only asking questions of a targeted group?

100% of women who divorced their husbands due to adultery think men are adulterers... Wow, what a great survey! :rolleyes:

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:15 PM

Somehow I doubt you really know that much about all the businesses you engage with... otherwise, you probably would not be able to do much business.


I know enough about Dish to not do business with them. Some people don't mind being associated with crooks, others do.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:23 PM

I know enough about Dish to not do business with them. Some people don't mind being associated with crooks, others do.


What a self righteous, indignant statement. Your post implies that those of us who do subscribe to Dish are making a choice to associate with crooks -which is nothing less than asinine. What I find interesting about this forum is that I expect my comment to be censored for criticizing your statement, while your post blatantly calling someone a crook without any basis will probably be allowed to remain. TROLL:D

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:15 PM

I don't read it as that. OTOH, you've become quite personal...
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:49 PM

I know enough about Dish to not do business with them. Some people don't mind being associated with crooks, others do.

Dish isn't a person I associate with. Neither is Walmart or Apple.

Sometimes high level employees of these companies do things I don't like, but I'm not going to choose not to order using my iPad something I need that is available through Walmart's web site at an incredibly low price. That doesn't mean I associate with anyone at either company.

Dish Network cannot be mean or a crook, only some of the people who work for it can be mean if they choose. I haven't met any mean Dish employees or crooks among them, but if I do I won't associate with them.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 07:09 PM

I'm not sure if its different for salary folks, but I (and all the other hourly dish employees I know) get 7 paid holidays a year (new years, easter, fourth of july, labor day, thanksgiving, black friday, and christmas), and if I work on the holiday, I get the holiday pay plus my regular pay. So, not sure where the no paid holidays part comes from, unless its salary folks.


Same here.
Im a former employee so most would think my opinion of Dish would be negative but fact of the matter is they paid well, offered a ton of P4P bonuses on every single pay check, extra money for upselling packages.

Getting paid 16$ an hour(accounting for p4p) not including over time(which was also multiplied by P4P separately which is awesome), in south texas when everyone else was either being paid 9$ an hour or was making comparable wages by working in a prison was quite nice.
Seriously, as a college student walking away with a 1000$ pay check, when all your friends are struggling to make 500$ at other jobs in that same period is quite nice.

Really the only thing that was weird was not qualifying for sick days until you have worked for Dish for 2 years. But even then they offer you a crap ton of PTO (paid time off), a lot of LEPC and a lot of UPTO that you really dont need the sick days.

Really the only bad thing about working there, are your retarded co-workers who seem to think there still in high school :lol:

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:50 AM

I know enough about Dish to not do business with them. Some people don't mind being associated with crooks, others do.


I am curious as to what factual information this statement is based on. My experience with Dish has always been positive and pleasant, I can honestly say that I have received customer service equal to Dish from very few companies.

I had a friend who moved to an apartment AFTER signing a 2 year contract. There was no line of sight at the new apartment so service was unavailable. They originally wanted over $400 to let her out of the contract. After speaking to several service representatives, one representative suggested downgrading her service to the minimum level, which was $9.95/mo for the rest of the contract. which ended up costing less than $200. I thought that was a nice compromise on the part of Dish, since my friend was at fault for not verifying service availability at the new location before moving.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:21 AM

Dish isn't a person I associate with. Neither is Walmart or Apple.


But Walmart is filthy through to the core, from the store level management up through the highest levels of the boardroom. One of those companies that's too dirty to get caught and prosecuted. Stories all over the world about corruption and mistreatment of workers.

They will never get a dime from me.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:33 AM

I don't know how Walmart isn't on top of this list. My current gripe is and I realize January and February are the slow season they have cut our hours back. Highest we get is 38 a week but for most of the last 6 months we've got 36 now we're down we're down 34. Thats full time people part time is even worse. Coming from a company that makes what 27 billion in profit can't afford to pay us the same in the slow times even the amount of work doesn't change.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:20 AM

I am curious as to what factual information this statement is based on. My experience with Dish has always been positive and pleasant, I can honestly say that I have received customer service equal to Dish from very few companies.

I had a friend who moved to an apartment AFTER signing a 2 year contract. There was no line of sight at the new apartment so service was unavailable. They originally wanted over $400 to let her out of the contract. After speaking to several service representatives, one representative suggested downgrading her service to the minimum level, which was $9.95/mo for the rest of the contract. which ended up costing less than $200. I thought that was a nice compromise on the part of Dish, since my friend was at fault for not verifying service availability at the new location before moving.


Factual information? Look no further than their lawsuits. Crooks, thieves, and liars.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:50 AM

I don't know how Walmart isn't on top of this list. My current gripe is and I realize January and February are the slow season they have cut our hours back. Highest we get is 38 a week but for most of the last 6 months we've got 36 now we're down we're down 34. Thats full time people part time is even worse. Coming from a company that makes what 27 billion in profit can't afford to pay us the same in the slow times even the amount of work doesn't change.


They made only a paltry $15,000,000,000. It's customary to deduct taxes and interest....

If you're doing the same work in 34 hours that you used to get paid for 38 hours..... it's good to cut down padding.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:36 AM

Factual information? Look no further than their lawsuits. Crooks, thieves, and liars.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:43 AM

They made only a paltry $15,000,000,000. It's customary to deduct taxes and interest....

If you're doing the same work in 34 hours that you used to get paid for 38 hours..... it's good to cut down padding.


Good for who ? Certainly not the workers, unless you're raising their hourly rate to compensate....
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

Good for who ? Certainly not the workers, unless you're raising their hourly rate to compensate....


Welcome to the world of capitalism!!!!!

America should of woken up 30 years ago......now everyone pays!!

We also subsidize many Walmart workers because the pay is less than a living wage..

There called the working poor....

Food stamps, and Medicaid are just a few things workers qualify for, sad but true.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:20 PM

Welcome to the world of capitalism!!!!!

America should of woken up 30 years ago......now everyone pays!!

We also subsidize many Walmart workers because the pay is less than a living wage..

There called the working poor....

Food stamps, and Medicaid are just a few things workers qualify for, sad but true.


Croney capitalism is not capitalism. Plus name a single better system. Even in our current system our working poor live in luxury compared to how most worldwide live.

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