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#1 OFFLINE   Satelliteracer

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

Interesting article in many respects....posted on the Dish forum as well.

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One of the things that jumped out at me in regards to programming disputes: "A blackout is the height of hostility between a carrier and a network. According to the American Television Alliance, a coalition of consumer groups and cable companies, no carrier is more willing to do battle than Dish, which is responsible for 22 of the 42 blackouts recorded since March 2010. DirecTV, with 5 million more subscribers, has been involved in six."
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#2 OFFLINE   damondlt

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

Wow, not surprised!:lol:

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:18 PM

Long read. Wouldn't work for Dish even if they paid me! DirecTV is another option. lol

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 07:13 PM

And the thing is, it doesn't even result in lower prices. Charlie Ergen must be making out like a bandit. I used to be a Dish customer, and the retransmission disputes were annoying, but I would have been completely OK with it if they had resulted in lower fees, but Dish's pricing is just as comparable to DirecTV and Cable and they have increases just as often.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 07:15 PM

It would be funny to see Ergen on Undercover Boss.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:00 PM

plain and simple...Ergen is a tyrannical a-hole. He may have built Dish but many others have built companies with tough but humane treatment of employees.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

Idiot! Plain and simple!!

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

Things like that are why more unions are needed.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

plain and simple...Ergen is a tyrannical a-hole. He may have built Dish but many others have built companies with tough but humane treatment of employees.


Just reading this article is practically giving me a panic attack.
It truly is astounding how much better DirecTV treats its employees.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:40 PM

Just reading this article is practically giving me a panic attack.
It truly is astounding how much better DirecTV treats its employees.


I actually ran into a guy like this in my career. He wasn't the CEO but a high level VP. My judgement is he actually cost the company productivity. Sure people put in the hours but they didn't go the "extra mile" for this clown. People wanted him to fail which he eventually did.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

Does anyone read anything objectively anymore? I mean, really, look at this article's opening paragraph. He cites Glassdoor and admits that it is "hardly the most scientific of methods." But does that stop him from writing an article based on the information there.

Then if you take a look at the author's Twitter feed tonight it is full of celebrations about his "first cover." You think these people don't write this stuff for it's shock value - to get noticed? Please.

I have DirecTV. I've never worked for Dish and not an ounce of my well being depends on Dish. I just get tired of these guys who have the "power of the pen" who think they are being investigative and provocative but in reality are just being sloppy, lazy, poor excuses for journalists.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:00 PM

Didn't Dish have to pay Tivo a ton of money??
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

It would be funny to see Ergen on Undercover Boss.


A very reliable source has told me that Ergen was, in fact approached to do just this, but his reaction when asked was nothing short of a "Get the f--- out of my face" response.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:37 AM

An absolutely GREAT read, should be required for anyone wanting to understand what's behind the competition.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:34 AM

I find the article to be sad reading. Charlie's obviously a very smart, driven man who lost all sense of decency and respect somewhere along the line.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 07:28 AM

Things like that are why more unions are needed.

If they had a union, their service would be terrible and our premiums would be even higher. Haven't you ever heard of garbage pileups, people getting stuck at airports, or businesses not receving their shipments due to strikes? A smart company or corporation usually stays ahead of the union.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 07:52 AM

If they had a union, their service would be terrible and our premiums would be even higher. Haven't you ever heard of garbage pileups, people getting stuck at airports, or businesses not receving their shipments due to strikes? A smart company or corporation usually stays ahead of the union.

Totally agree. unions are a joke, its just a bunch of slow over paid guys who drain our economy of growth and money.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:26 AM

I subscribed to DISH for 9 years and never liked Ergen. When I would watch his call in shows he came off as not a very genuine person who there for show. His constant disputes with networks was a constant annoyance. When they finally settled the consumer never saw any benefit. Just the inconvienance of not having that network for a few days or weeks in some cases. I'm glad I left them for a lot of reasons. This article just reaffirmed to me that DISH is just a terrible organization and I hope they never merge with DirecTV.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:34 AM

People bad mouthing Charlie Ergen and DISH. I'm shocked! :eek2:......:sure:

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:06 AM

In fairness, to me the article seems like the author came in with an agenda, and found what he was looking for. Not to say any of it is untrue, but it does seem biased.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:13 AM

It's what passes for 'research' in today's journalism. Make your conclusion, then go out and look for supporting info all the while ignoring the info that doesn't support that conclusion.

Every radio/tv yakker on both sides of the political aisle has been doing it this way for years.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:15 PM

It would be funny to see Ergen on Undercover Boss.


When I was reading I thought the very same. Mike White did it.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:43 PM

In fairness, to me the article seems like the author came in with an agenda, and found what he was looking for. Not to say any of it is untrue, but it does seem biased.


Indeed. Somewhere it transitioned from "worst company to work for" to a "bash dish" piece.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:50 PM

In fairness, to me the article seems like the author came in with an agenda, and found what he was looking for. Not to say any of it is untrue, but it does seem biased.

Which is why some of us have avoided posting on this topic altogether.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:10 PM

Which is why some of us have avoided posting on this topic altogether.


It may be slanted toward Dish being a bad company or Ergen being a bad person as a CEO. But how many people don't like Ergen or Dish. So it can't all be slanted toward bad or good. And No I don't work for Dish OR DirecTV.

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