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#51 OFFLINE   wilbur_the_goose

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:05 AM

zkc - A company I used to work for had a divisional CIO like you describe. He was the only one that could make decisions, and people feared him.

He finally irked the wrong people and was laid off, and the productivity and profitability increased.

Folks like this can be GREAT for getting a company off the ground, but are often become tyrants in a middle-aged company.

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#52 OFFLINE   DodgerKing

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:14 AM

Scariest line of the article: "He’s also made it clear that he’d like to try again to merge with DirecTV "

Obviously, I'd drop D* the second Charlie took control.

Remember the early days of Home Shopping Network? A goofball would be behind a desk with a "Tootie" horn? It was like an old SCTV skit, and that's what I think of Charlie and his mean companies.

As would I. I do not want Charlie anywhere near DirecTV. Sirius ruined XM and Dish will ruin DirecTV.

#53 OFFLINE   DodgerKing

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:15 AM

What makes you think Charlie would take control?

Lets see 14 million and Dropping , 30 million and growing. I think we know who would be running the company.;)

Heres your cut charlie ,now scat!

Not necessarily true. XM had more subs than Sirius, yet Sirius is the one that took control

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:17 AM

zkc - A company I used to work for had a divisional CIO like you describe. He was the only one that could make decisions, and people feared him.


I worked for one like that. His production was high and his superiors liked him because production was up. Some made jokes that he had made a deal with the devil and that's why he got away with things he did. He would get information on employees by asking others what people were saying, looking for negative things that were said about him.

He was basically a people pusher and if he didn't like someone, he would take that person down using unethical means. For example, if an employee, supervisor, or manager under him bucked him, he would not try to correct the situation. Instead, he would leave him/her out of meetings and other activities making the person feel totally left out and broken. He actually would take a good experienced inteligent individual, and break them spiritually and professionly making that person feel worthless and usless and setting them up to fail.

I saw him do that more than once. Unlike those that had never worked anywhere else, it was those that came from other places that would, in most cases, feel his wrath.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:19 PM

Totally agree. unions are a joke, its just a bunch of slow over paid guys who drain our economy of growth and money.

You all can get pissed off, but I don't care!


That's exactly what happened to Union Carbide. We'd hire new mechanics and they'd be a ball of fire. Couldn't give them enough work. Six months in, they were as bad as the regular employees. Kinda like an extremely contagious disease. Ever wonder why new cars cost so much? Unions.

UCC is gone now, bought out by Dow Chemical. Swept all the dead wood right out the gate. I was a union member and a shop steward before getting promoted. Sad story, I wouldn't be sitting here today if it wasn't for UCC. But the culture changed so drastically and it wasn't the same as when I was hired. I couldn't wait to get out of that place.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

D* doesn't need to buy E*. E* will slowly wither away on it's own.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:35 PM

Some managers and companies don't consider employee morale important. There do need to be rules etc, but if morale is bad, the company suffers. Of course not all companies are all that negatively affected by a high churn rate.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

I'm sorry to say this but does anybody has ever work for software/code engineering before it seems that Directv does not have anyone qualified(that's what it seems to look like) because the HR34 has so much potential as a home media receiver as is the C31 do to software related issues, and knowing how they are it would take awhile before they release another update, and knowing the regular upfront cost for existing customers it should work as is suppose to.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:56 PM

Not necessarily true. XM had more subs than Sirius, yet Sirius is the one that took control

And they wre both Dying. Again your compairing Dish to Directv, Dish is staying afloat, Directv is still growing. Directv has way more connections, and way less lawsuits.

If you think the merger will be ran by charlie, your dreaming.:hurah:

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:05 PM

And they wre both Dying. Again your compairing Dish to Directv, Dish is staying afloat, Directv is still growing. Directv has way more connections, and way less lawsuits.

If you think the merger will be ran by charlie, your dreaming.:hurah:


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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

Depends on your definition of 'dying'. Both were increasing subscriptions, but both were losing money. Buying sports and personalities (e.g Howard Stern), were costing the companies.

But I think the point several people have tried to make is that at the time of the merger, XM was the 'stronger' company, yet Sirius ended up in charge.

From what I've read of Charlie Ergen, I don't think he would support a merger unless he ended up in control.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:15 PM

From what I've read of Charlie Ergen, I don't think he would support a merger unless he ended up in control.

Which is why there is no merger.
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You honestly think they would say here you go charlie. HA HA yea, twice the customers, my guess twice total value.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:21 PM

D* doesn't need to buy E*. E* will slowly wither away on it's own.


Let's hope not. We should want multiple sat companies in order to foster competition and innovation.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:23 PM

Not everyone is created equal and there are some media bias toward any major company Walmart,Apple,Microsoft,Netflix,Comcast,Time Warner,AT&T and also Directv all driven for competition and reluctant to pay high cost for content from networks with an exception to Directv which is why we pay more.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:30 PM

staying afloat
maybe in your wet dreams
don't make me laugh

Guess we'll just have to wait for the year end results, and see who went backwards again and who didn't.:P

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:41 PM

directv is run by a bunch of wuss ,they cave in to the demands of every network at renewal time

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:42 PM

What a stupid and untruthful post that is.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

directv is run by a bunch of wuss ,they cave in to the demands of every network at renewal time

Maybe, but they aren't shelling out $700,000 million + on a fight they lost either.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:05 PM

directv is run by a bunch of wuss ,they cave in to the demands of every network at renewal time


Dish happens to be the provider with a long history of bad deals. Sounds like you need to do your homework.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:26 PM

directv is run by a bunch of wuss ,they cave in to the demands of every network at renewal time


Make a list of what Dish has and what DirecTV has. Which list is longer?

I'll save you the trouble: DirecTV wins.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:21 PM

Including G4? :)

I'm assuming AMC caved, not Dish...

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

Let's hope not. We should want multiple sat companies in order to foster competition and innovation.


Agreed. It's like the cell phone business. Some want RIM to go under, but we need more companies innovating.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

Agreed. It's like the cell phone business. Some want RIM to go under, but we need more companies innovating.


Problem is, RIM isn't innovating. They're playing catch-up after resting on their laurels.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:26 PM

The difference between the sat companies and cell phone industry is that sat is part of the whole PayTV industry. And there are many options, in fact even more now with IPTV starting to really take off.

Even if Rim isn't innovating, they are breathing down the necks of thems who are. That is their role for now until they reorganize their mission. (And likely their company.)

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 06:56 AM

I'm assuming AMC caved, not Dish...

I will have to agree on this.:)

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