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#41 OFFLINE   damondlt

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:41 AM

You mean like when XM (the bigger and growing) company took over Sirius?

You mean Both dying Satellite Radio companys. And still dying!:lol:

Yea ok bad example!
XM was far from Growing anything except Debt.



The merger's completion is a relief to shareholders who have expressed frustration with the prolonged approval process. XM and Sirius have struggled financially and have said that joining forces is the only way that they can survive. Music-enabled cellphones, iPods, music Web sites and traditional radio stations all provide increased competition.




Right from here.
http://www.washingto...ST2008072503697


Directv is doing more then fine on their own 2 feet.

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#42 OFFLINE   brucegrr

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:27 PM

The author had an agenda and then a Directv employee came here to post it, shocker.


All writers have an "agenda" or have bias. Neutrality is a myth. This is why we must be discerning and learn to tell the difference between fact and fiction.

I suspect that Dish is not as bad as the article says it is but that is not saying much. A lot of corporations treat their employees like chattel. Rare is the company that respects its employees and treats them as humans first and employees second. In businesses where employees can easily and cheaply be replaced there is little incentive to treat people well.

#43 OFFLINE   wilbur_the_goose

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:03 PM

What makes you think Charlie would take control?

Lets see 14 million and Dropping , 30 million and growing. I think we know who would be running the company.;)

Heres your cut charlie ,now scat!


Ask XM subscribers that same question. "We" had a LOT more subs, but Sirius took control and the end product is nowhere near as good as the XM days.

#44 OFFLINE   Lord Vader

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:07 PM

I agree. I liked XM a lot more than I like Sirius XM.

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:39 PM

Not defending Dish but Dish Network is no different than any other company that are trying to reach specific goals and expect a lot from their employees, because there is competition out there and everybody from the trainee to the executives trying to thrive even if they try to push people around to get the message, but regardless they shouldn't treat some of their employees like that shameful

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#46 OFFLINE   Hoosier205

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:45 PM

Not defending Dish but Dish Network is no different than any other company that are trying to reach specific goals and expect a lot from their employees, because there is competition out there and everybody from the trainee to the executives trying to thrive even if they try to push people around to get the message, but regardless they shouldn't treat some of their employees like that shameful


They've accomplished far less that DirecTV while racking up far more collateral damage.
DTV = Digital Television

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:56 PM

They've accomplished far less that DirecTV while racking up far more collateral damage.


At least I prefer their software engineering department than Directv's especially with the Genie HR34/C31 issues but then again NO ONE's perfect

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:09 PM

At least I prefer their software engineering department than Directv's especially with the Genie HR34/C31 issues but then again NO ONE's perfect


I prefer DirecTV's folks since they come by their equipment and features the ethical way, rather than by theft or other corrupt means.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:09 PM

I do think they still do a nightly reboot. That might help with some issues.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:22 PM

"Meanest?" Is that like getting a boo-boo?

C'mon, life is tough. I work in and out of the C-level, and have for most of my 20+ years of being in the workforce, and one of the things that one learns early on is that at that level, people like Charlie are pretty much the norm, rather than the exception. That is, they almost all tend to be somewhat arrogant, definitely quirky, and absolutely certain that their way is not only the right way, but the only way. They also tend to be very, very successful.

The biggest challenge with these types of personalities is to convince them that they can achieve an even greater level of success by simply slightly moderating their methods and, heaven forbid, their "vision." And trust me, it is, indeed, one huge challenge.

With regard to the apparently "disgruntled" employees, all of whom seem to be doing quite well for themselves post-Dish, one of the few great things left about this country is that one is pretty much free to find oneself another job anytime one wishes to do so. However, my guess is that once they finish processing it all, they probably owe Charlie a major thank-you card.

The bottom line is that if I were starting a business, I'd want Charlie on my team, not on the other side.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:05 AM

zkc - A company I used to work for had a divisional CIO like you describe. He was the only one that could make decisions, and people feared him.

He finally irked the wrong people and was laid off, and the productivity and profitability increased.

Folks like this can be GREAT for getting a company off the ground, but are often become tyrants in a middle-aged company.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:14 AM

Scariest line of the article: "He’s also made it clear that he’d like to try again to merge with DirecTV "

Obviously, I'd drop D* the second Charlie took control.

Remember the early days of Home Shopping Network? A goofball would be behind a desk with a "Tootie" horn? It was like an old SCTV skit, and that's what I think of Charlie and his mean companies.

As would I. I do not want Charlie anywhere near DirecTV. Sirius ruined XM and Dish will ruin DirecTV.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:15 AM

What makes you think Charlie would take control?

Lets see 14 million and Dropping , 30 million and growing. I think we know who would be running the company.;)

Heres your cut charlie ,now scat!

Not necessarily true. XM had more subs than Sirius, yet Sirius is the one that took control

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:17 AM

zkc - A company I used to work for had a divisional CIO like you describe. He was the only one that could make decisions, and people feared him.


I worked for one like that. His production was high and his superiors liked him because production was up. Some made jokes that he had made a deal with the devil and that's why he got away with things he did. He would get information on employees by asking others what people were saying, looking for negative things that were said about him.

He was basically a people pusher and if he didn't like someone, he would take that person down using unethical means. For example, if an employee, supervisor, or manager under him bucked him, he would not try to correct the situation. Instead, he would leave him/her out of meetings and other activities making the person feel totally left out and broken. He actually would take a good experienced inteligent individual, and break them spiritually and professionly making that person feel worthless and usless and setting them up to fail.

I saw him do that more than once. Unlike those that had never worked anywhere else, it was those that came from other places that would, in most cases, feel his wrath.

The warning was, "Don't piss XXXXX off."

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 12:19 PM

Totally agree. unions are a joke, its just a bunch of slow over paid guys who drain our economy of growth and money.

You all can get pissed off, but I don't care!


That's exactly what happened to Union Carbide. We'd hire new mechanics and they'd be a ball of fire. Couldn't give them enough work. Six months in, they were as bad as the regular employees. Kinda like an extremely contagious disease. Ever wonder why new cars cost so much? Unions.

UCC is gone now, bought out by Dow Chemical. Swept all the dead wood right out the gate. I was a union member and a shop steward before getting promoted. Sad story, I wouldn't be sitting here today if it wasn't for UCC. But the culture changed so drastically and it wasn't the same as when I was hired. I couldn't wait to get out of that place.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

D* doesn't need to buy E*. E* will slowly wither away on it's own.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:35 PM

Some managers and companies don't consider employee morale important. There do need to be rules etc, but if morale is bad, the company suffers. Of course not all companies are all that negatively affected by a high churn rate.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

I'm sorry to say this but does anybody has ever work for software/code engineering before it seems that Directv does not have anyone qualified(that's what it seems to look like) because the HR34 has so much potential as a home media receiver as is the C31 do to software related issues, and knowing how they are it would take awhile before they release another update, and knowing the regular upfront cost for existing customers it should work as is suppose to.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:56 PM

Not necessarily true. XM had more subs than Sirius, yet Sirius is the one that took control

And they wre both Dying. Again your compairing Dish to Directv, Dish is staying afloat, Directv is still growing. Directv has way more connections, and way less lawsuits.

If you think the merger will be ran by charlie, your dreaming.:hurah:

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:05 PM

And they wre both Dying. Again your compairing Dish to Directv, Dish is staying afloat, Directv is still growing. Directv has way more connections, and way less lawsuits.

If you think the merger will be ran by charlie, your dreaming.:hurah:


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