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Are some of Discovery and History channels shows staged?


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#26 OFFLINE   fluffybear

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:05 AM

Did you happen to see his behind the scenes show?


What makes you think that show wasn't faked?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

One of the teachers at my son's school was on DIY's "Yard Crashers" last year. She was one of the helpers called in to her nephews house. They were building a cigar smoking pagoda thing in the back yard.

Turns out, her nephew is a pastor of a local church, and doesn't smoke. They applied for the show, and the show contacted him and said "We'd love to do X in your back yard". They had interviews with the wife saying she hated him smoking cigars in the house and he needed some place to smoke, and interviews with him saying how he was going to have such a good time with his friends sitting out in the pagoda smoking cigars with all his buddies.

The work was real - they did the yard in 2 days with the help of the show & the family and friends who were called in to help. Everything else about the show (including "surprising" the family while they were shopping at Home Depot or some such store) was staged.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:56 PM

Wasn't Survivorman revealed as being faked a few years ago? One of those "survive in the wild" shows was.


That was Bear Grylls.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

What makes you think that show wasn't faked?


What's next, Amazing Race filmed on a sound stage? :)

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:15 PM

What's next, Amazing Race filmed on a sound stage? :)


Wasn't the show, "I'm a celeberity, get me the he!! out of here" discovered to have been filmed on a soundstage in Manhattan Beach rather than some jungle locale in Costa Rica. If they can do it, why not Amazing Race? ;)

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:26 PM

Wasn't Survivorman revealed as being faked a few years ago? One of those "survive in the wild" shows was.



Survivorman is real. It's just the one guy. He films everything himself. If its a three day process he is really out there by himself for three days. He does have a backup crew elsewhere for safety and such, but they don't interfere unless absolutely necessary. He stopped doing the show regularly because of the toll it was taking on his body.

Man vs. Wild is staged. He has had help building things that he then demonstrates, he has a production crew with him, and he has been known to stay in a hotel overnight rather than how it appears on the show.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:44 PM

Yeah, the story he gave about the parasitic worm he picked up made my stomach churn.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:25 PM

That was Bear Grylls.


Ok, so Man vs. Wild. Same type of show, probably just as fake.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:20 PM

Well, there's always Dirty Jobs...no, that got cancelled.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:20 PM

I'm sure that some of the stuff on Mythbusters is staged.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:08 AM

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 05:57 AM

Survivorman is real. It's just the one guy. He films everything himself. If its a three day process he is really out there by himself for three days. He does have a backup crew elsewhere for safety and such, but they don't interfere unless absolutely necessary. He stopped doing the show regularly because of the toll it was taking on his body.


And you probably still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny :lol:

I quit watching Survivorman regularly because of the toll it was taking on my body! :)

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:13 AM

I'm sure that some of the stuff on Mythbusters is staged.


That's pretty much the point of Mythbusters.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:35 AM

I'm sure that some of the stuff on Mythbusters is staged.


That's pretty much the point of Mythbusters.



Staged for experimentation and demonstration is one thing.

What these guys do is more like grandstanding or showmanship. Doesn't qualify as 'science' to me.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:02 AM

All I can say now is, I hope my favorite show Gold Rush is digging up real Gold :)

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:14 AM

^ Probably about as real as the 'ghosts' on the Haunted whatever shows.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

Staged for experimentation and demonstration is one thing.

What these guys do is more like grandstanding or showmanship. Doesn't qualify as 'science' to me.


Well, they generally do it to the myth (though sometimes they do use the term loosely), then see what it would take to actually replicate the results. Either that or just blow the whole thing up. I'm good with that.

Heck, even actual science shows, with actual astronomers have things wrong, on purpose, for dramatization purposes.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:56 AM

[...] I do miss Sunrise Earth. It was some of the first HD tv I got to enjoy.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

Hoarders is all real and no one can tell me different.


I do believe that Hoarders is essentially real, although they do play editing tricks with certain reaction shots.

When somebody says "all reality shows are staged," I would modify that to "all reality shows have some level of staging."

There is quite a range, from subtle influences by producers and spliced-in reaction shots, to downright manipulation and scripting of every part of the show.

My wife was watching Mystery Diners on Food Network, and it was completely obvious to me immediately that it was the latter example of a (poorly) scripted show with actors.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:32 PM

I watched the season debut of Property Wars last night. There were two occurrences that felt completely staged. In the first there was a small pile of sand neatly located in the middle of the driveway of one of the houses. The buyer found a little piece of PVC and gambled that the house had a new kitchen (wrong). In the second, a dirt bike motorcycle was found in a storage building - but it was a nice storage building and the bike was under a tarp -- why?

I won't be watching again.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:26 PM

First: Total forgot Property Wars was on last night, got something to watch later.

Second:

All of these shows, not just Discovery and History all of them.... Are a blend between Rigged, Scripted, and Creatively Edited.

They are blending pieces filmed at totally different times, to make it appear like it happened in one night. These "casts" have to wear the same clothes... all the time.

They are injecting "drama" into some of them for no reason, like the BS with Pawn Stars and the ownership.

Most of these shows to me, are filler.. 30 minutes shows, that I can watch when:
a) My kids are around, my son actually gets into some of them.
B) want to watch that one last show before crashing at night.

Shows that I watch for more in depth entertainment... are some of the one hour action/drama shows... or some of the upcomming mini-series (and some of the recent ones)....

At the end of the day, it is TV.
Ultimately it is edited by someone, produced by someone, to match their vision for what they wanted to present.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:34 PM

And you probably still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny :lol:

I quit watching Survivorman regularly because of the toll it was taking on my body! :)


Facts are facts. Do your own homework. Man Vs. Wild is staged, Survivorman was not.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 05:20 PM

Facts are facts. Do your own homework. Man Vs. Wild is staged, Survivorman was not.


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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:05 AM

If memory serves me correctly, about two years ago there was union action against the studios demanding recognition for some of the writers/producers on reality shows. Many of them started out a low-paying non-union productions and were trying to hide the fact that many of them were heavily scripted and edited. I think it was the Real World/Real Housewives types of shows that were the biggest offenders.

One thing to look at is how many people are on the production crew when you go to their IMDB listing. Storage Wars has a crew 2-3 times as large as Survivorman. And if you look at a show like Real Housewives of Miami the crew includes a lead writer and several Story Producers. Hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:30 AM

Right. Like with Pawn Stars I like some of the items brought in, learn about them etc. I'm assuming that the actual items are authentic. That's where my real interest is. I really don't care about the family dynamics or if they have negotiated the item beforehand.

I know it's not Antiques Roadshow, which I know some say is also fake, but I know the appraisers have to pay their own way to participate.


I do like seeing the appraisals, but makes you wonder if ther is collusion before the price is announced ! Why wouldnt Rick tell his so called " I Have a Friend let me call him" !!!
And in Hardcore pawn it is soooo staged its sickening ! Back when it first aired was alot better. I remember one episode how Ashly defended her self as having a college degree in gemology then a year later a poor girl who's grandmother passed away and she had to pay for it came in with Grandma's bag of precious stones. Ashly looks at them calls them Glass ! and sends her away ! Yep she's a pro LOL Then her rip off scumbag father says wait let me look he wants a professional to look at this one ruby ! As the Appraisal is being announced they cut out his price ! The next scene is LES says to the girl iam so happy to give you $ 10,000.00 dollars for this burmese ruby !!!!!!!!!!! Really makes you wonder was it staged or did we just witnessed a crime ! for a $ 100,000.00 stone !! :mad:

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