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#351 OFFLINE   Supramom2000

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

Of course. There will be specific needs such as yours, and I am sorry it limits you and others currently.

May be time for a new AVR? I just bought a Denon for about $400, and it does Pandora all by itself when it's not doing TV duty or Airplay.


There really isn't any place to put another AVR. The one hooked up to the TV is very good and it is in the family room, which is open to the kitchen and covers the whole main floor. It also covers my office, but I do play my itunes or stream from the desktop when in my office. But most of the time I am in the kitchen or family room, thus wanting to use the sound system in there.

Anyway - don't want to hijack the thread. Thanks for the suggestions!

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:41 PM

Since one can access Pandora on a laptop, desktop, iPhone, iPad and more, is this really a limitation of note? I myself can't see listening to Pandora while the TV is on anyway, but diff strokes.....

When you are watching your favorite team at an away location, and you're stuck listening to the homie sportscasters. This can get on one's nerves -- especially, when your team is losing.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

I myself can't see listening to Pandora while the TV is on anyway, but diff strokes.....


I can, and I do it often with my HR2x boxes while watching sporting events. I wish I could do so with my HR34.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

When you are watching your favorite team at an away location, and you're stuck listening to the homie sportscasters. This can get on one's nerves -- especially, when your team is losing.


But your DIRECTV® Pandora link isn't going to do much good in an away location! Agree some 'casters make a bad game stink....!
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:43 AM

So, I am not under contract and Directv keeps offering me a free HR34 and install if I re-up.

Obviously, I am more interested in the HR44.

I currently have an HR24, HR22, and H21. I do not have MRV nor do I have the Cinema Connection Kit. It is just the wife and I. She has her DVR in the bedroom and I have mine in the basement. The non-DVR feeds a television in the great room.

I have a couple of questions:

1. In regards to monthly fees, would switching to one HR44 and two clients (I think that is what they are called) save me money?

2. If the answer to #1 is no, is there any benefit to switching to a Genie?

I have read through the respective HR44 and HR34 threads and think I understand the idea (one DVR that feeds the whole house), but I am not sure if I am missing something. I definitely do not understand the pricing structure.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:48 AM

You would not save anything on the monthly bill, you still have an additional TV fee. In your case, replacing two DVRs with one Genie, you'd gain a tuner, PIP etc and have one DVR to manage.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:47 AM

You would not save anything on the monthly bill, you still have an additional TV fee. In your case, replacing two DVRs with one Genie, you'd gain a tuner, PIP etc and have one DVR to manage.


And the ability to lose ALL your recordings in one swell foop.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

So, I am not under contract and Directv keeps offering me a free HR34 and install if I re-up.

Obviously, I am more interested in the HR44.

I currently have an HR24, HR22, and H21. I do not have MRV nor do I have the Cinema Connection Kit. It is just the wife and I. She has her DVR in the bedroom and I have mine in the basement. The non-DVR feeds a television in the great room.

I have a couple of questions:

1. In regards to monthly fees, would switching to one HR44 and two clients (I think that is what they are called) save me money?

2. If the answer to #1 is no, is there any benefit to switching to a Genie?

I have read through the respective HR44 and HR34 threads and think I understand the idea (one DVR that feeds the whole house), but I am not sure if I am missing something. I definitely do not understand the pricing structure.

You won't save money on the monthly bill going the Genie/clients over what you have now. But if you can get an upgrade for a good price why not replace the HR22 with the HR34 and the H21 with a C31? That way you pick up a net of 2 tuners and the room where the H21 is get's a box with full DVR feature set like pause live TV and all the Internet features only the DVR's have.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 11:10 AM

And the ability to lose ALL your recordings in one swell foop.

Rich


Yes, but it all depends on use. If my DVR went, I'd lose a week or two of stuff. To me, easier management trumps that issue.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

Yes, but it all depends on use. If my DVR went, I'd lose a week or two of stuff. To me, easier management trumps that issue.


I does depend on usage, obviously. I don't have any problems managing my HR system.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:11 AM

Currently I have active an HR24 and an H24. When the HR44 comes out, is it cheaper for it to replace my HR24 or can I just replace my H24 and have 2 DVR's?

Do they charge you another line item for $8 (I think it is) for DVR? I have an $8 Advanced dvr and a $10 Advanced HD charge. Sounds like the DVR is $2 cheaper???

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:36 AM

You can have an HR44 and an HR24, no problem. The DVR fee is per account, not per receiver. Your recurring monthly cost should not change if you drop the H24 and add the HR44.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

I'm planning on getting the HR44 to replace the HR22 which as everybody knows how dog on slow it is, I hope it stays consistent with the series links and recordings like it always has with the HR22 and reliable without any hardware problems. but it would probably be costly because I'm still on legacy system just like the Genie HR34.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:55 PM

Watch out D*, cable has a new 6 tuner DVR coming out.

6 stream DVR allows up to 6 programs to be recorded simultaneously

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

Watch out D*, cable has a new 6 tuner DVR coming out.

6 stream DVR allows up to 6 programs to be recorded simultaneously


Yes, but it will still be run by Cox in the Phoenix area.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

Watch out D*, cable has a new 6 tuner DVR coming out.

6 stream DVR allows up to 6 programs to be recorded simultaneously


When cable can match the picture quality, UI experience, and channel selection I get with DirecTV, then we can talk.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:19 AM

Watch out D*, cable has a new 6 tuner DVR coming out.

6 stream DVR allows up to 6 programs to be recorded simultaneously

Weird, it says it has a 1TB and yet only has capacity for 125 hrs of HD. Although it comes with optional 500GB (:ewww:) & 2TB drives.

Still, it seems it's using more than half the 1TB for the OS.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 05:58 AM

Maybe MPEG2?

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:24 AM

Grey screen of death is a reference Microsoft's now famous BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) when your PC locks up. Some early clients have a tendenacy to "lock up" and display a grey screen, simply requires a reset of the Genie, however its not the big deal, unless that is you just did an install with a Genie and 5 clients and all of a sudden your customer has NO TV! Yikes

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

You do have to remember that 99.999% of everything is MPEG2 on cable, and their DVRs don't transcode to MPEG4 on the fly to preserve space. That would be too much effort!


Xfinity X1 UI looks fantastic. It has a real nice flow to it. Screen elements have like an iPad / liquid motion modern polished feel to it. Their sports app looks way nicer (and more detailed HD resolution) compared to Scoreguide.

The software can really make or break the experience. By chance most markets deploying some advanced set tops are still running crappy iGuide with its horrendous 520x440 resolution. Passport guide is the most responsive, quick UI I've ever used, but its still only SD 4:3 aspect ratio.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:03 AM

I am planning on switching from Dish to Direct. Main reason is that I want 5 tuners and the new customer pricing is attractive. Should I wait till the release of the HR44? When it is released will I be able to stipulate the HR44 over the HR34? I only have one TV but I do record a lot. I will miss my external hard drive with Dish. Thanks.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:06 AM

I am planning on switching from Dish to Direct. Main reason is that I want 5 tuners and the new customer pricing is attractive. Should I wait till the release of the HR44? When it is released will I be able to stipulate the HR44 over the HR34? I only have one TV but I do record a lot. I will miss my external hard drive with Dish. Thanks.


1: That's really up to you, but you may be waiting a while for the 44

2: Nope. Just like other receivers in the past, the 34 and 44 will be considered 'similar' and you can't specifically request it, but you can get chummy with the installer beforehand and possibly find out when they will have it for install (but don't ask before it's out in your market, or they may get a little annoyed) :)
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:32 AM

I am planning on switching from Dish to Direct. Main reason is that I want 5 tuners and the new customer pricing is attractive. Should I wait till the release of the HR44? When it is released will I be able to stipulate the HR44 over the HR34? I only have one TV but I do record a lot. I will miss my external hard drive with Dish. Thanks.

That's not an option through DirecTV, however, you can also look to a partner vendor such as Solid Signal or other place to select the HR44 specifically once it become available. It will be a leased unit just like if you got it through DirecTV.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

That's not an option through DirecTV, however, you can also look to a partner vendor such as Solid Signal or other place to select the HR44 specifically once it become available. It will be a leased unit just like if you got it through DirecTV.


Oh yeah, forgot about that :) Of course that downside is that you won't get any special deals on pricing. But, if the model is important enough, it's definitely the way to go.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:06 AM

I guess what I'm asking, not being familiar with the HR34, do you anticipate the 44 being enough of an upgrade over the 34 to warrant waiting? I'm surprised to be reading all the negative reviews here regarding the 34. Maybe I'm just to dam logical but if "D" is going to design a new DVR and everybody thinks the DVR from "E" is faster, then why not just copy that specific technology from "E" in the first place? Not exactly copy of course but you know it's done all the time. While they are at it, why not design the new DVR to allow an external hard drive to augment the internal hard drive instead of negating it. Seems so simple.




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