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#341 OFFLINE   bsather

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:39 PM

For those of us who have a HR34 and were to purchase the HR44 online, are we allowed to have both?

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#342 OFFLINE   Mike Bertelson

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

For those of us who have a HR34 and were to purchase the HR44 online, are we allowed to have both?

We have no idea what the future policy will be. However, right now we can only have one Genie per account.

IMHO, they'll have to change that sooner or later but for now it's the policy.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:08 PM

will we be able to specify a 44 when it comes out and we order a new reciver or is going to be classified like a 34 and and its a crap shot like the 21-24 zre
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#344 OFFLINE   Mike Bertelson

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:11 PM

will we be able to specify a 44 when it comes out and we order a new reciver or is going to be classified like a 34 and and its a crap shot like the 21-24 zre

I have no idea but I'm thinking that both will be considered equivalent.

It might be new installs will get the HR44 because of Wi-Fi. Less work for the install. Along those lines maybe if an existing customer needed Wi-Fi they could specify the HR44.

I'm just guessin' here. We don't know what the policy is going to be yet. When DIRECTV decides to release that info then you can bet you'll here it her first. :)

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

I searched this thread for Pandora and got zero hits.

So does the HR44 handle Pandora like a HR34 or a HR2x?

In other words, can you view a channel while Pandora plays?
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#346 OFFLINE   Supramom2000

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:35 PM

I searched this thread for Pandora and got zero hits.

So does the HR44 handle Pandora like a HR34 or a HR2x?

In other words, can you view a channel while Pandora plays?


No. You get the Pandora screensaver. The option to view live TV is not there.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:45 PM

No. You get the Pandora screensaver. The option to view live TV is not there.


Since one can access Pandora on a laptop, desktop, iPhone, iPad and more, is this really a limitation of note? I myself can't see listening to Pandora while the TV is on anyway, but diff strokes.....
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:01 PM

Since one can access Pandora on a laptop, desktop, iPhone, iPad and more, is this really a limitation of note? I myself can't see listening to Pandora while the TV is on anyway, but diff strokes.....


The HR34/44 should have the same Pandora features as the HR2X's whether or not you personally see no need for it.

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#349 OFFLINE   Supramom2000

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:05 PM

Since one can access Pandora on a laptop, desktop, iPhone, iPad and more, is this really a limitation of note? I myself can't see listening to Pandora while the TV is on anyway, but diff strokes.....


I don't use my computer devices for playing music throughout the house while I do chores or cook or pay bills or whatever. I like the sound system hooked up to the TV. So I prefer to use Pandora and Music Share.

My husband used to watch football or hockey while I streamed Pandora, so it was a very nice compromise. But now we can't do that.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:13 PM

I don't use my computer devices for playing music throughout the house while I do chores or cook or pay bills or whatever. I like the sound system hooked up to the TV. So I prefer to use Pandora and Music Share.

My husband used to watch football or hockey while I streamed Pandora, so it was a very nice compromise. But now we can't do that.


Of course. There will be specific needs such as yours, and I am sorry it limits you and others currently.

May be time for a new AVR? I just bought a Denon for about $400, and it does Pandora all by itself when it's not doing TV duty or Airplay.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

Of course. There will be specific needs such as yours, and I am sorry it limits you and others currently.

May be time for a new AVR? I just bought a Denon for about $400, and it does Pandora all by itself when it's not doing TV duty or Airplay.


There really isn't any place to put another AVR. The one hooked up to the TV is very good and it is in the family room, which is open to the kitchen and covers the whole main floor. It also covers my office, but I do play my itunes or stream from the desktop when in my office. But most of the time I am in the kitchen or family room, thus wanting to use the sound system in there.

Anyway - don't want to hijack the thread. Thanks for the suggestions!

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:41 PM

Since one can access Pandora on a laptop, desktop, iPhone, iPad and more, is this really a limitation of note? I myself can't see listening to Pandora while the TV is on anyway, but diff strokes.....

When you are watching your favorite team at an away location, and you're stuck listening to the homie sportscasters. This can get on one's nerves -- especially, when your team is losing.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

I myself can't see listening to Pandora while the TV is on anyway, but diff strokes.....


I can, and I do it often with my HR2x boxes while watching sporting events. I wish I could do so with my HR34.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

When you are watching your favorite team at an away location, and you're stuck listening to the homie sportscasters. This can get on one's nerves -- especially, when your team is losing.


But your DIRECTV® Pandora link isn't going to do much good in an away location! Agree some 'casters make a bad game stink....!
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:43 AM

So, I am not under contract and Directv keeps offering me a free HR34 and install if I re-up.

Obviously, I am more interested in the HR44.

I currently have an HR24, HR22, and H21. I do not have MRV nor do I have the Cinema Connection Kit. It is just the wife and I. She has her DVR in the bedroom and I have mine in the basement. The non-DVR feeds a television in the great room.

I have a couple of questions:

1. In regards to monthly fees, would switching to one HR44 and two clients (I think that is what they are called) save me money?

2. If the answer to #1 is no, is there any benefit to switching to a Genie?

I have read through the respective HR44 and HR34 threads and think I understand the idea (one DVR that feeds the whole house), but I am not sure if I am missing something. I definitely do not understand the pricing structure.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:48 AM

You would not save anything on the monthly bill, you still have an additional TV fee. In your case, replacing two DVRs with one Genie, you'd gain a tuner, PIP etc and have one DVR to manage.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:47 AM

You would not save anything on the monthly bill, you still have an additional TV fee. In your case, replacing two DVRs with one Genie, you'd gain a tuner, PIP etc and have one DVR to manage.


And the ability to lose ALL your recordings in one swell foop.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

So, I am not under contract and Directv keeps offering me a free HR34 and install if I re-up.

Obviously, I am more interested in the HR44.

I currently have an HR24, HR22, and H21. I do not have MRV nor do I have the Cinema Connection Kit. It is just the wife and I. She has her DVR in the bedroom and I have mine in the basement. The non-DVR feeds a television in the great room.

I have a couple of questions:

1. In regards to monthly fees, would switching to one HR44 and two clients (I think that is what they are called) save me money?

2. If the answer to #1 is no, is there any benefit to switching to a Genie?

I have read through the respective HR44 and HR34 threads and think I understand the idea (one DVR that feeds the whole house), but I am not sure if I am missing something. I definitely do not understand the pricing structure.

You won't save money on the monthly bill going the Genie/clients over what you have now. But if you can get an upgrade for a good price why not replace the HR22 with the HR34 and the H21 with a C31? That way you pick up a net of 2 tuners and the room where the H21 is get's a box with full DVR feature set like pause live TV and all the Internet features only the DVR's have.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 11:10 AM

And the ability to lose ALL your recordings in one swell foop.

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Yes, but it all depends on use. If my DVR went, I'd lose a week or two of stuff. To me, easier management trumps that issue.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

Yes, but it all depends on use. If my DVR went, I'd lose a week or two of stuff. To me, easier management trumps that issue.


I does depend on usage, obviously. I don't have any problems managing my HR system.

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