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#451 OFFLINE   Rich

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:06 PM

And just how do you think that multiple drives could be used to create one big space without either software (shiver) or hardware RAID?


Easy to do on the SD TiVos. No RAID required. I think the reason the HDDs are not added together is that D* doesn't want everyone opening the boxes. There is plenty of room in the boxes for an extra bracket that would hold a drive that would couple with the internal drive as the TiVos did. That said, I could care less about the internal drive being wasted. 2TBs of capacity is more than enough for anybody who is not interested in recording every show on TV. I think.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:13 PM

Just that external power pack alone would create problems space-wise, oh well rearranging would be in order


Having replaced several power supplies, I'd be happy to see an external brick. I'd get one extra brick, just in case. And, nobody should forget, if the 44 goes south, all the content goes with it. So, even if you have 24TBs of capacity on a 44, it's all gonna be lost. If D* solves that problem, I'd be really happy.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:24 PM

Easy to do on the SD TiVos. No RAID required.


If you're referring to "blessing" a drive that is a form of software RAID that created a JBOD volume.

That said, I could care less about the internal drive being wasted. 2TBs of capacity is more than enough for anybody who is not interested in recording every show on TV. I think.


Agreed, don't care about internal being wasted. I'd rather it be wasted then have it die as part of an "expanded set" and take out everything with the external drive is still good. And with the Genies you don't have to stop at 2TB.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:58 PM

If you're referring to "blessing" a drive that is a form of software RAID that created a JBOD volume.


Had no idea what I was doing then, just knew how to do it. Even then there were limitations.

Agreed, don't care about internal being wasted. I'd rather it be wasted then have it die as part of an "expanded set" and take out everything with the external drive is still good. And with the Genies you don't have to stop at 2TB.


Yup, that was the problem I encountered with putting 2 drives in the SD TiVos.

We should also keep explaining that, even with that massive RAID setup you have, if the HR goes south, you're gonna lose all the content. The battle to allow us to view content from HDDs recorded withing an account by any HR should be continued even if it seems impossible to win. I think.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

We should also keep explaining that, even with that massive RAID setup you have, if the HR goes south, you're gonna lose all the content.


Correct. My RAID setup only protects my recordings if there is a drive failure. I lose them all if the HR itself fails.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:57 PM

Correct. My RAID setup only protects my recordings if there is a drive failure. I lose them all if the HR itself fails.


And there's the rub. After over 6 years of asking for something that's gotta be relatively simple (I can't back up that statement, don't have the knowledge), wouldn't you think someone would do something about this?

Frustrating, I think.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:00 PM

And there's the rub. After over 6 years of asking for something that's gotta be relatively simple (I can't back up that statement, don't have the knowledge), wouldn't you think someone would do something about this?

Frustrating, I think.


After this amount of time I would think if they were going to give it to us they would have by now. Sad...
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:06 PM

After this amount of time I would think if they were going to give it to us they would have by now. Sad...


I'm not giving up. I see no reason they can't do it.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:59 AM

The battle to allow us to view content from HDDs recorded withing an account by any HR should be continued even if it seems impossible to win. I think.

Rich


My biggest gripe!!
C'mon DTV, let the hard-drive be married to the account not the box!
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:48 AM

My biggest gripe!!
C'mon DTV, let the hard-drive be married to the account not the box!


There you go! We should all express our opinions on this problem.

Problem? Of course it's a problem and a major one. Just lose an HR with a nearly full HDD and you'll understand! Over 6 years and counting. Nothing done. Sad.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:54 PM

Having replaced several power supplies, I'd be happy to see an external brick. I'd get one extra brick, just in case. And, nobody should forget, if the 44 goes south, all the content goes with it. So, even if you have 24TBs of capacity on a 44, it's all gonna be lost. If D* solves that problem, I'd be really happy.

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I am not exactly against the expernal power supply as it does allow easy replacements if there are to go bad, and it helps get the heat out of the main unit. However, I am not happy with the fact that it seems like they have used some kind of non-standard, or proprietary power connector for it. This can make it extremely annoying to place if the cord is too long/or more likely too short. If they had used some kind of standard connector you would be able to buy longer/shorter cables to replace the original one to get the length you need.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

Having replaced several power supplies, I'd be happy to see an external brick. I'd get one extra brick, just in case. And, nobody should forget, if the 44 goes south, all the content goes with it. So, even if you have 24TBs of capacity on a 44, it's all gonna be lost. If D* solves that problem, I'd be really happy.
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I'm glad to see an External Power Supply and now if we could just get a Plug n Play Swappable Internal Hard Drive then we would be in business. :)
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:00 PM

There you go! We should all express our opinions on this problem.

Problem? Of course it's a problem and a major one. Just lose an HR with a nearly full HDD and you'll understand! Over 6 years and counting. Nothing done. Sad.

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Duly noted.

So, DTV...Please PLEASE PALEEASE; reflash the 44 so the keys are not embedded to each other but rather upon activation/reactivation to our account??

This has got to be so easy-peasy compared to launching a bird 22,380 miles above earth!
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:12 PM

Duly noted.

So, DTV...Please PLEASE PALEEASE; reflash the 44 so the keys are not embedded to each other but rather upon activation/reactivation to our account??

This has got to be so easy-peasy compared to launching a bird 22,380 miles above earth!


+1000.

It is so easy I could do it and I am a Caveman!!! :lol:
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:12 PM

I am not exactly against the expernal power supply as it does allow easy replacements if there are to go bad, and it helps get the heat out of the main unit. However, I am not happy with the fact that it seems like they have used some kind of non-standard, or proprietary power connector for it. This can make it extremely annoying to place if the cord is too long/or more likely too short. If they had used some kind of standard connector you would be able to buy longer/shorter cables to replace the original one to get the length you need.


Yeah, and I also noticed on the latest installation video that the power plug has a proprietary locking mechanism to prevent it from easily being kicked out of the socket or something. A good idea for a more secure power connection than a mere barrel plug, but remember not to make the mistake of trying to quickly remove it by just yanking on the cord. An outer sleeve on the plug itself must be pulled back first to release the lock before the plug can be removed.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:17 PM

There you go! We should all express our opinions on this problem.

Problem? Of course it's a problem and a major one. Just lose an HR with a nearly full HDD and you'll understand! Over 6 years and counting. Nothing done. Sad.
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I have lost Recordings due to a Bad Hard Drive twice and once Directv Reformatted my Drive on my HR24-500 and I lost all of my Recordings and didn't even have a chance to respond to a message that I didn't want my Drive Reformatted. :nono2:

It would be relatively easy to do as all of the RID #s associated with all of your DVRs are on Directv's Authentication Server which also has your Account #!!! :)
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:43 PM

What are the chances we can have an HR34 AND an HR44 on one account??

I want 10 tuners! :eek2:

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

What are the chances we can have an HR34 AND an HR44 on one account??

I want 10 tuners! :eek2:


For the present apparently, as far as known, no chance, as the DIRECTV policy is one HMC DVR per household. Outside of maybe a fluke occurrence like when a ("very") few subscribers managed to acquire and maintain activation of two HR34s on their account.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:57 PM

What are the chances we can have an HR34 AND an HR44 on one account??

I want 10 tuners! :eek2:


Right now, none. Someday, I expect it.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:08 PM

What are the chances we can have an HR34 AND an HR44 on one account??

I want 10 tuners! :eek2:


you can have 10 tuners just use a genie, 2 hddvr's and a hd receiver and wholaa you got 10 :lol:
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

Not impressed with the same thing. To me this is just a commodity and I'll just shop for the best price when it comes down to it. Espn looks the same on all the providers...

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:14 AM

Not impressed with the same thing. To me this is just a commodity and I'll just shop for the best price when it comes down to it.


To me it is different and enough so that I'm waiting on it vs.getting the HR34 installed like weeks ago for free.

Faster processor alone (in the world of computers anyway) also means new model names/numbers as well. Now chuck in the fact that the HR44 also has wi-fi connectivity and an external power slab.... you now have some additional perks as well. :)



Espn looks the same on all the providers...


If you think this way then you might as well also view your webpages on an old 386 computer. Why? well because dbstalk.com also looks the same on both! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

So Yes, I agree with your statement that ESPN will look the same on both DVR's but does that really mean anything? Well readers choice I guess but when I'm scrolling up/down in the guide (or channels) I'll bet that I get there way faster and smoother than you!

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:52 PM

Duly noted.

So, DTV...Please PLEASE PALEEASE; reflash the 44 so the keys are not embedded to each other but rather upon activation/reactivation to our account??

This has got to be so easy-peasy compared to launching a bird 22,380 miles above earth!


+1

And allow users to move content from old receivers to the new one before deactivation.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:39 AM

My biggest gripe!!
C'mon DTV, let the hard-drive be married to the account not the box!


So I'll say it twice: YOU CAN CAY THAT AGAIN! Until that happens, DTV is committing a major crime against its customers, say I.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:03 AM

I feel like we may beating a dead horse but hopefully DTV will start to listen to us paying customers! This has got to be the No.1 gripe with their (us) "DVR Customers".

Personally- I would also LOVE the ability to create folders (like "Movies, Sports, Debbies Soaps, Lil Johnnies Stuff, etc...) with a move & drop button capability. Again, not that big of deal software-programming wise.
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