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#361 OFFLINE   cypherx

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:11 AM

Currently I have active an HR24 and an H24. When the HR44 comes out, is it cheaper for it to replace my HR24 or can I just replace my H24 and have 2 DVR's?

Do they charge you another line item for $8 (I think it is) for DVR? I have an $8 Advanced dvr and a $10 Advanced HD charge. Sounds like the DVR is $2 cheaper???

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:36 AM

You can have an HR44 and an HR24, no problem. The DVR fee is per account, not per receiver. Your recurring monthly cost should not change if you drop the H24 and add the HR44.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

I'm planning on getting the HR44 to replace the HR22 which as everybody knows how dog on slow it is, I hope it stays consistent with the series links and recordings like it always has with the HR22 and reliable without any hardware problems. but it would probably be costly because I'm still on legacy system just like the Genie HR34.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:55 PM

Watch out D*, cable has a new 6 tuner DVR coming out.

6 stream DVR allows up to 6 programs to be recorded simultaneously

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

Watch out D*, cable has a new 6 tuner DVR coming out.

6 stream DVR allows up to 6 programs to be recorded simultaneously


Yes, but it will still be run by Cox in the Phoenix area.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

Watch out D*, cable has a new 6 tuner DVR coming out.

6 stream DVR allows up to 6 programs to be recorded simultaneously


When cable can match the picture quality, UI experience, and channel selection I get with DirecTV, then we can talk.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:19 AM

Watch out D*, cable has a new 6 tuner DVR coming out.

6 stream DVR allows up to 6 programs to be recorded simultaneously

Weird, it says it has a 1TB and yet only has capacity for 125 hrs of HD. Although it comes with optional 500GB (:ewww:) & 2TB drives.

Still, it seems it's using more than half the 1TB for the OS.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 05:58 AM

Maybe MPEG2?

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:24 AM

Grey screen of death is a reference Microsoft's now famous BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) when your PC locks up. Some early clients have a tendenacy to "lock up" and display a grey screen, simply requires a reset of the Genie, however its not the big deal, unless that is you just did an install with a Genie and 5 clients and all of a sudden your customer has NO TV! Yikes

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

You do have to remember that 99.999% of everything is MPEG2 on cable, and their DVRs don't transcode to MPEG4 on the fly to preserve space. That would be too much effort!


Xfinity X1 UI looks fantastic. It has a real nice flow to it. Screen elements have like an iPad / liquid motion modern polished feel to it. Their sports app looks way nicer (and more detailed HD resolution) compared to Scoreguide.

The software can really make or break the experience. By chance most markets deploying some advanced set tops are still running crappy iGuide with its horrendous 520x440 resolution. Passport guide is the most responsive, quick UI I've ever used, but its still only SD 4:3 aspect ratio.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:03 AM

I am planning on switching from Dish to Direct. Main reason is that I want 5 tuners and the new customer pricing is attractive. Should I wait till the release of the HR44? When it is released will I be able to stipulate the HR44 over the HR34? I only have one TV but I do record a lot. I will miss my external hard drive with Dish. Thanks.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:06 AM

I am planning on switching from Dish to Direct. Main reason is that I want 5 tuners and the new customer pricing is attractive. Should I wait till the release of the HR44? When it is released will I be able to stipulate the HR44 over the HR34? I only have one TV but I do record a lot. I will miss my external hard drive with Dish. Thanks.


1: That's really up to you, but you may be waiting a while for the 44

2: Nope. Just like other receivers in the past, the 34 and 44 will be considered 'similar' and you can't specifically request it, but you can get chummy with the installer beforehand and possibly find out when they will have it for install (but don't ask before it's out in your market, or they may get a little annoyed) :)
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:32 AM

I am planning on switching from Dish to Direct. Main reason is that I want 5 tuners and the new customer pricing is attractive. Should I wait till the release of the HR44? When it is released will I be able to stipulate the HR44 over the HR34? I only have one TV but I do record a lot. I will miss my external hard drive with Dish. Thanks.

That's not an option through DirecTV, however, you can also look to a partner vendor such as Solid Signal or other place to select the HR44 specifically once it become available. It will be a leased unit just like if you got it through DirecTV.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

That's not an option through DirecTV, however, you can also look to a partner vendor such as Solid Signal or other place to select the HR44 specifically once it become available. It will be a leased unit just like if you got it through DirecTV.


Oh yeah, forgot about that :) Of course that downside is that you won't get any special deals on pricing. But, if the model is important enough, it's definitely the way to go.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:06 AM

I guess what I'm asking, not being familiar with the HR34, do you anticipate the 44 being enough of an upgrade over the 34 to warrant waiting? I'm surprised to be reading all the negative reviews here regarding the 34. Maybe I'm just to dam logical but if "D" is going to design a new DVR and everybody thinks the DVR from "E" is faster, then why not just copy that specific technology from "E" in the first place? Not exactly copy of course but you know it's done all the time. While they are at it, why not design the new DVR to allow an external hard drive to augment the internal hard drive instead of negating it. Seems so simple.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:09 AM

I guess what I'm asking, not being familiar with the HR34, do you anticipate the 44 being enough of an upgrade over the 34 to warrant waiting?


Except for the smaller foot print/external power brick, built in wireless, coax and TOSLINK DD out and faster UI then they are the same. If any of those items are important to you, or you're one of those folks that just must have the latest/greatest then you should wait otherwise you'll always be second guessing yourself.

But if you want 5 tuners now and the larger hard drive then go for it, it's not as slow as some will make it out to be.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:13 AM

They're (DirecTV) priorities are different from ours.
They're interested in "enhancing shareholder value", pushing PPV, that kind of thing.
We like features like our bigger external hard drives but while it works, it's an unsupported feature right now.
Maybe they'll get around to making them supplemental rather than a replacement, just don't hold your breath.
At least their working on DVR speed. While the HR34 won't ever be as fast as the HR44s, it is faster than it used to be and will get speedier with new firmware releases.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:24 AM

They're (DirecTV) priorities are different from ours.
They're interested in "enhancing shareholder value", pushing PPV, that kind of thing.


Spot on. You sure got that right. +1

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:07 AM

I guess what I'm asking, not being familiar with the HR34, do you anticipate the 44 being enough of an upgrade over the 34 to warrant waiting? I'm surprised to be reading all the negative reviews here regarding the 34. Maybe I'm just to dam logical but if "D" is going to design a new DVR and everybody thinks the DVR from "E" is faster, then why not just copy that specific technology from "E" in the first place? Not exactly copy of course but you know it's done all the time. While they are at it, why not design the new DVR to allow an external hard drive to augment the internal hard drive instead of negating it. Seems so simple.


If you get a Genie, you'll want to put an external drive on it. Forget about adding the internal to the external drive, tho. The D* HRs do not allow the internal capacity to be added to the external capacity. Apparently, you can put any size HDD on them externally. With 5 tuners, that 1TB internal is gonna get full quickly if your recording habits are anything like mine.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:07 AM

They're (DirecTV) priorities are different from ours.
They're interested in "enhancing shareholder value", pushing PPV, that kind of thing.
We like features like our bigger external hard drives but while it works, it's an unsupported feature right now.
Maybe they'll get around to making them supplemental rather than a replacement, just don't hold your breath.
At least their working on DVR speed. While the HR34 won't ever be as fast as the HR44s, it is faster than it used to be and will get speedier with new firmware releases.

The external drive (eSATA) is unsupported but even DIRECTV provides some guidance on installing the drive. (Link)

I don’t know for sure but after reading that page, everything else I could find, it is and is likely to remain unsupported. They don’t know what drive & enclosure someone is using and can’t possibly build a large enough knowledge base to support all the possible combinations. I believe it’s especially true after reading the disclaimer…

Please note: We offer this tip because we want to help you get the most out of your DIRECTV experience. It is recommended for advanced users who are comfortable working with electronic hardware. This modification of your DIRECTV system is not officially supported by DIRECTV. DIRECTV, Inc. expressly denies any liability relating to any and all injuries and damages of any and every kind from the use of above equipment. User is responsible for the loss of or damage to the above equipment and assumes the costs and expenses of all necessary servicing and repairs. DIRECTV expressly denies any guarantee or warranty, either express or implied regarding the quality and performance of the above equipment.



As to getting them combined into one volume, I kinda think if they’re not going to support eSATA they’re not going to make that an option. But, that’s just a guess on my part.

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