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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR44-700 Genie


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#21 OFFLINE   Mike Bertelson

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:32 AM

Outstanding job as always guys. Looks very cool. I'm glad I waited to get one.

I have a few questions

  • Any time frame on availability?
  • Why no stop button on the remote? Are you suppose to use "exit" now?
  • Why still a limit on 100 series links? Now that its faster I would think it could handle more?
  • Did you ask about a future PIP toggle, or the possibility moving the PIP selection to the left side on the info screen? Or use the dash button as a toggle?
  • Any future possibility of having an 8 tuner HMC with a bigger hard drive? ;) :P
Thanks, great on the first look. :)

There really aren't any answers to all of those questions.

There is no word on availability yet. As always, when we know, you’ll know. :)

Exit is the key to use with this remote. As you can see from the First Look, you can have the RC71 in RF and still use the RC64 in IR. Yes, it does both IR and RF simultaneously.

I have no idea if there are plans for a DVR with more than five tuners but I wouldn’t think so. How many people would need more than five tuners? Probably not that many.

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#22 OFFLINE   spartanstew

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:33 AM

Great job on the first look guys.I want one.


Ditto.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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#23 OFFLINE   Mike Greer

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:46 AM

Looks impressive - hopefully they'll be available quickly since there are multiple manufacturers this time.

"Please note that some DBSTalk.com testers and staff members may have received free equipment from DIRECTV or its partners for
the purpose of evaluation and testing."

Thanks for being upfront and honest with everyone!

A few more questions....

What does the GUI look like? Same as the HR34?
Same amount of guide data as the older receivers?
How big is the external power supply?
If you order a Genie can you specify an HR44? Who would want the HR34 now?
How much will it cost?
How quick are the 'clients' compared to the HR34?
Do the 'trick-play' features work correctly and quickly over MRV?
No more 'Gray Screen of Death' for the RVU clients right?!:D

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:58 AM

Looks impressive - hopefully they'll be available quickly since there are multiple manufacturers this time.

"Please note that some DBSTalk.com testers and staff members may have received free equipment from DIRECTV or its partners for
the purpose of evaluation and testing."

Thanks for being upfront and honest with everyone!


Go back check, but the First Look documents for the last year or two have all had that notice on them.

A few more questions....

What does the GUI look like? Same as the HR34?


Yep.

Same amount of guide data as the older receivers?


Yep.

How big is the external power supply?


Small. Like a common electronics power brick for any consumer device. I just tossed mine on the floor behind my TV with the rest of the stuff and forgot about it.

If you order a Genie can you specify an HR44? Who would want the HR34 now?



Unknown.

How much will it cost?


That's between the customer and Directv, but probably comparable to an HR34. They are functionally identical.

How quick are the 'clients' compared to the HR34?


Generally a bit more responsive to remote commands and displaying data served up by the Genie, like UI graphics and whatnot, but not worlds faster.

Do the 'trick-play' features work correctly and quickly over MRV?


Trickplay works fine for me with both the HR34 and HR44.

No more 'Gray Screen of Death' for the RVU clients right?!:D


No idea what you're talking about here so someone else will have to address this one.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:07 AM

Nice job guys. Looks nice.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:08 AM

Looks impressive - hopefully they'll be available quickly since there are multiple manufacturers this time.

"Please note that some DBSTalk.com testers and staff members may have received free equipment from DIRECTV or its partners for
the purpose of evaluation and testing."

Thanks for being upfront and honest with everyone!

A few more questions....

What does the GUI look like? Same as the HR34?
Same amount of guide data as the older receivers?
How big is the external power supply?
If you order a Genie can you specify an HR44? Who would want the HR34 now?
How much will it cost?
How quick are the 'clients' compared to the HR34?
Do the 'trick-play' features work correctly and quickly over MRV?
No more 'Gray Screen of Death' for the RVU clients right?!:D


Great job on the First Look (as usual)!

GUI is the same as HR34.
Guide data hasn't changed as far as I know.
Maybe someone who is at home can take power supply measurements. Not boo big.
First post says it's not available yet.
Cost? Lets hope for lower cost - didn't someone say in another thread that they were cheaper to produce?
I'd say that client response/trickplay is similar to the HR34. Mine's connected with a WCCK so may not be representative.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:10 AM

Good job Scott and the rest of the test crew. First Look is awesome! This is going to be a super cool DVR!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:12 AM

A few more questions....

What does the GUI look like? Same as the HR34?
Same amount of guide data as the older receivers?
How big is the external power supply?
If you order a Genie can you specify an HR44? Who would want the HR34 now?
How much will it cost?
How quick are the 'clients' compared to the HR34?
Do the 'trick-play' features work correctly and quickly over MRV?
No more 'Gray Screen of Death' for the RVU clients right?!:D

A few answers...

- HR44 shares the HR34 Genie UI platform.
- Cost and date of availability have not been finalized...not expected to be known for a bit yet. These won't be available for some time yet.
- Based on having an extremely fast user experience...it's fair to assume paired clients will see some performance lift.
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#29 OFFLINE   Malibu13

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:25 AM

Great job as always guys! :)

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:34 AM

Will the new remote work with current receivers?
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:37 AM

Will the new remote work with current receivers?

Only in IR. HR44 RF is unique to that box. Also, old RC3x/6x remotes only work with the 44 in IR.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:38 AM

Will the new remote work with current receivers?


In IR mode, yes. In RF mode, no.

Just as the old remote will work with the HR44 in IR mode, but not in RF mode. It is a different rf frequency and protocol.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:44 AM

I know the notice has been there - I'm just glad it is disclosed.

Thanks for the info.

"No idea what you're talking about here so someone else will have to address this one"

I'm talking about the daily posts about the having to reset the HR34 because the 'clients' have a black/grey screen and won't respond.


Go back check, but the First Look documents for the last year or two have all had that notice on them.

A few more questions....



Yep.



Yep.



Small. Like a common electronics power brick for any consumer device. I just tossed mine on the floor behind my TV with the rest of the stuff and forgot about it.



Unknown.



That's between the customer and Directv, but probably comparable to an HR34. They are functionally identical.



Generally a bit more responsive to remote commands and displaying data served up by the Genie, like UI graphics and whatnot, but not worlds faster.

Trickplay works fine for me with both the HR34 and HR44.



No idea what you're talking about here so someone else will have to address this one.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:46 AM

Two questions on the remote:

Since it's apparent it uses a different RF setup, I'm guessing my Acoustic Research remote will not work in RF?

Will the remote be able to operate my TV and Audio receiver for power and volume?
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:48 AM

Terrific job guys on the First Look!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:50 AM

I'm talking about the daily posts about the having to reset the HR34 because the 'clients' have a black/grey screen and won't respond.


I have both a HR34 and HR44 and multiple C31 clients and I don't have this issue. Both of my HMC's get reset once a week when I put the latest CE code on them.

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:50 AM

I asked "If you order a Genie can you specify an HR44? Who would want the HR34 now?"

You responded:

That's between the customer and Directv, but probably comparable to an HR34. They are functionally identical.


Please tell me they aren't going down that road with the HR44!? They are not any more 'functionally identical' than the HR24 is 'functionally identical' to an HR22.

That would be likely enough to keep me from going that route. Nothing like basing your system on an HR44 only to have it fail and then getting a beat up old HR34 to replace it.

I realize it is too soon for all the details but I'm sure DirecTV already has a 'plan' - I just hope it doesn't include 'functionally identical' anywhere!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:51 AM

Great FL as usual. One question about the remote: are the volume and channel buttons rocker switches? I didn't see "+" and "-" symbols on them.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:52 AM

I could be once they start rolling out the HR44's if the installer notes they are using the internal wireless adapter to connect to the internet there will be a flag that says to replace with only a HR44 (just a guess, not based on any facts).

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:03 AM

Two questions on the remote:

Since it's apparent it uses a different RF setup, I'm guessing my Acoustic Research remote will not work in RF?

Will the remote be able to operate my TV and Audio receiver for power and volume?

Nope, the AR remote uses the old RF setup. You could still use it in IR though.

Great FL as usual. One question about the remote: are the volume and channel buttons rocker switches? I didn't see "+" and "-" symbols on them.

Yep, they just stick up and are pushed forward (+) and back (-), and give a little click each time.

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