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#641 OFFLINE   ladannen

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 12:01 PM

What if you acquired 2 of these through a 3rd party like Solid Signal?  Would that get around the 'one per account'?

 

Nope. You could get another unit from Solid Signal but currently will be turned down when you call Directv to activate it.

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#642 OFFLINE   Mike Bertelson

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:10 PM

OK thanks.  What if you acquired 2 of these through a 3rd party like Solid Signal?  Would that get around the 'one per account'?
 
Alternatively, If I had a single HR44 along with 2 C41s, an RVU enabled Samsung TV, plus kept two of my HR24s that would give me 9 tuners which should be enough.

It isn't a matter of getting the DVRs, it a matter of getting them activated. As it stands right now, DIRECTV will only activate one Genie.  

 

IIUC, the system won't allow the CSR to activate the second Genie.

 

When they're available getting the Genie will be relative easy, activating them will not be.

 

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 03:36 PM

I currently have 3 HR24s, an HR22, and an H21.  I will also need another box.   Instead of just adding another box I figured I'd consider the HR44 and C41 setup.

 

The literature states that an HR44 can support 3 RVU clients.  Given that I already have more than 5 tuners and also would need more than 3 RVU clients, can 2 HR44s coexist in the same setup?  I would be looking to have 2 HR44s, 3 C41s, and and RVU enabled Samsung TV.  Will this work?

 

Just so you are aware, the Genie (HR34/HR44) can actually support up to 8 clients.  It's just that you can only watch TV on a maximum of 3 of them at any time (if you turn on a 4th or 5th I believe they show an error screen telling you that you need to turn off one of the others).


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 04:45 PM

OK thanks.  What if you acquired 2 of these through a 3rd party like Solid Signal?  Would that get around the 'one per account'?

 

Just my .02, but no matter where you get them, DirecTV still has to activate them (or not). Best thing would be to call DirecTV before you buy.

 

Remember if the C41s are being used for LIVE TV, that's two less recording tuners, not that 7 wouldn't be plenty. :P

 

And if you currently have a SWM8 and need to spring for a SWM16, you can save some $$$ by going with the HR44, 2-C41s, the Sammy, 1-HR24 and the H21.


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 08:49 PM

OK thanks.  What if you acquired 2 of these through a 3rd party like Solid Signal?  Would that get around the 'one per account'?

 

 

DirecTV will only activate one. no way around it.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:00 AM

OK thanks.  What if you acquired 2 of these through a 3rd party like Solid Signal?  Would that get around the 'one per account'?

 

 

No, they would only activate one.


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:45 PM

I am looking for an esata external 2 -3 tb drive that will work with my new Genie.  It seems choice is quite limited.  Any suggestions?



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM

What I hooked up today to an HR44-500 - WD20EURS 2TB drive using a Vantec NexStar 3 enclosure.


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:57 PM

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:30 PM

So the best thing is to by a drive and the enclosure and build my own.  Might be the way to go.  eSatas externals are hard to come by.  This seems to be the only one.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:45 PM

Think I've seen that WD20EURS recently for $88. AV-GP and best.

Just looked and $94 today. Great drive, there's also bigger.
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:42 AM

 

So the best thing is to by a drive and the enclosure and build my own.  Might be the way to go.  eSatas externals are hard to come by.  This seems to be the only one.

Fantom Drives GreenDrive 3TB eSATA

 

 

I wouldn't trust a Fantom.  Too many problems.  Try this.   And they are on sale today.  Easily returnable if it won't work with a 3TB drive.     

 

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:46 PM

I wouldn't trust a Fantom.  Too many problems.  Try this.   And they are on sale today.  Easily returnable if it won't work with a 3TB drive.     

 

Rich

 

It will work with 3TB on an HR44-500.  I know that without a doubt because that's what I'm now running.  I put my RAID enclosures to work for me on a NAS setup instead.


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 07:13 PM

I got the Fantom Drives GreenDrive 3TB eSATA and it is working great.   I don't pay too much attention to HD reviews because there will always be about 20% 1 star reviews saying the drive fails, crashes etc... it goes with the territory.  The happy people go about life and rarely leave a review on a drive that just works, those that have a bad experience let off steam with 1 star rants.   My main concern was when I plugged in the drive would it be compatible with the Genie and take advantage of all its 3TB glory and it does. 

 

I have ~10 external drives I bought over the years and each one had lots of bad reviews.  So far I have been lucky but eventually one will fail, eventually they all do.  As drives get larger and cheaper I tend to replace the older smaller drives with larger newer ones.  ie.. 750 gb  to 1 tb to 2 tb ect...  Now I am going to 3 and 4 TB drives as I have several redundant backups of my pc I use for my business and about 450 BD and DVD movies backed up.


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Posted 07 June 2013 - 11:07 PM

Maybe it's me but skip ahead and back is not as smooth or fast as the HR24, even fast forward 4x speed is not fast enough.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 09:57 AM

I think 4x FW is very fast...too fast actually.  I use 3x and can usually stop it right where I want.  I can't do that with 4x.

 

I just compared it to my HR24-500 and it's just as or even faster.  Maybe it's just me though.

 

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 10:12 AM

No, it ain't just you, Mike. I, too, use 3x almost exclusively. 4x seems to sometimes skip large chunks- i.e., to me, seems erratic± even if I could stop it just where I want consistently, it's not a good choice for me right now. 


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 10:44 AM

What about when using FF x3 while viewing a recording over MRV?  The HR20\21\22\23\24x don't handle it the same as local recordings.  Does the HR44?



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 10:57 AM

What about when using FF x3 while viewing a recording over MRV?  The HR20\21\22\23\24x don't handle it the same as local recordings.  Does the HR44?

I really can't tell the difference between local and MRV on the HR44.  On my HR21 it is definitely snappier with local recordings.

 

It does take a few seconds longer to start the recording but trick play is identical.

 

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 11:06 AM

My 44 is consistently the fastest receiver I have. Response time to any menu choice or button press is almost instantaneous.

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