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#26 OFFLINE   sigma1914

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 11:44 AM

As someone who has both, I can definitely say DirecTV is better and my main viewing. Like VOS, the PQ on Uverse wasn't that bad at first, but after watching sports on it...my opinion changed - DirecTV wins easily.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 11:56 AM

Another thing:
Not sure if this works coming from U-Who to DirecTV, but coming from DirecTV and trying to use U-Who, their DVR sucks!
I seriously had to fight not throwing their remote at my TV. :lol:
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

Welcome to DBSTalk!
Always good to have another local guy on the forum.

They're making you wait until the 27th for your install or that's a date that you picked?
Installers are pretty good around here since DirecTV took over the local contractor a few years ago.

So are you getting an HR34 plus 3 C31 clients? If so you can get away with a SWiM LNB and a single coax into the house, then split (single coaxs) to individual rooms. They usually want more $$ to fish line through the walls from the attic, otherwise they'll want to drill in from outside. If you want more than 8 tuners (5 for an HR34, 2 for each standard DVR, 1 for a receiver, none for a C31 client (uses an HR34 tuner)) then they'll install a standard LNB and run 4 coaxs to a SWiM16, usually mounted in your attic.

Get an AM21 for OTA tuning/recording with the HR34. Besides giving an alternative to the DirecTV Local-into-Local stations you can get the subchannels on 4 & 5 with the old shows. How far away are you from the antenna farm in the north-central part of town?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:40 PM

As someone who has both, I can definitely say DirecTV is better and my main viewing. Like VOS, the PQ on Uverse wasn't that bad at first, but after watching sports on it...my opinion changed - DirecTV wins easily.


Sports can be down right terrible. Anything with fast movement looks bad.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:01 PM

As someone who has both, I can definitely say DirecTV is better and my main viewing. Like VOS, the PQ on Uverse wasn't that bad at first, but after watching sports on it...my opinion changed - DirecTV wins easily.


This is refreshing, thats 95% of what I watch on TV today, SPORTS. So good to know, and really the biggest reason I've even questioned UVerse.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

This is refreshing, thats 95% of what I watch on TV today, SPORTS. So good to know, and really the biggest reason I've even questioned UVerse.

The lower bit-rate is most likely the reason.
MPEG-4 strips out the repeated bits to save bandwidth, "but" if there is a lot of change in each frame, there are less repeated bits, so more bandwidth is needed. DirecTV will use more bandwidth, while U-Who doesn't/can't.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:23 PM

Welcome to DBSTalk!
Always good to have another local guy on the forum.

They're making you wait until the 27th for your install or that's a date that you picked?
Installers are pretty good around here since DirecTV took over the local contractor a few years ago.

So are you getting an HR34 plus 3 C31 clients? If so you can get away with a SWiM LNB and a single coax into the house, then split (single coaxs) to individual rooms. They usually want more $$ to fish line through the walls from the attic, otherwise they'll want to drill in from outside. If you want more than 8 tuners (5 for an HR34, 2 for each standard DVR, 1 for a receiver, none for a C31 client (uses an HR34 tuner)) then they'll install a standard LNB and run 4 coaxs to a SWiM16, usually mounted in your attic.

Get an AM21 for OTA tuning/recording with the HR34. Besides giving an alternative to the DirecTV Local-into-Local stations you can get the subchannels on 4 & 5 with the old shows. How far away are you from the antenna farm in the north-central part of town?


Awesome and OKIE!! Yay! lol...need an Okies opinion on the signal and loss of signal during our famous weather days...how does DTV hold up? Its really my only hang up with DTV, weather issues and worries.

Also, I chose the 27th, to give myself some padding to cancel the install if I had 2nd thoughts or my wife wasn't happy with the move. So far she seems open to it so I'm out here trying to make any buyers remorse go away.

Sounds to me like you want me to call back and get a "custom install" done not the standard which is what I think I chose? I might have to print that stuff out so I remember what to have him do.

I asked the sales rep for the 4 room install, the living room being my main install for the DVR and my bedroom with 1 client. While I wanted 2 other rooms installed with clients for future use, but not activated, but looking at my ticket I see only 2 rooms with the Genie and 1 client, so I think I need to call back to fix that?

I think there is a "SWiM LNB and a single coax" in my attic now that Cox installed, but again, not sure if they will use other peoples equipment/hardware up there? What is a SWiM LNB? I don't think I need more than 5 tuners from the (HR-34), I mean 5 shows at once is probably plenty? Seems like a lot of people have 8 or more in the house, but why does one need more than the 5 tuners in the Genie?

Where is the Antenna farm, where all the TV/Radio stations are off Broadway? I'm just a few miles west...I'm off 122nd and Rockwell/Council, so not real far. I've picked up the OTA before with a cheap old OTA antenna, back when I had TiVO.

So explain again to me what I need to have installed or ask the installer to do. I guess I'm going custom install now. I want the dish on the back side of the house that faces east. My house sits east/west (front porch/back porch) and if its on the back side (east) it has a clear sight to the south, no trees nothing in the way, its a newer sub division. Will he mount it there and just drill into my attic and run the cable and drop down into the wall where my TV is? How should I have him set it up?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:24 PM

The lower bit-rate is most likely the reason.
MPEG-4 strips out the repeated bits to save bandwidth, "but" if there is a lot of change in each frame, there are less repeated bits, so more bandwidth is needed. DirecTV will use more bandwidth, while U-Who doesn't/can't.


Ok that kind of makes some sense now. I hope I see the difference right away, probably will, I'm pretty picky with visuals like that. My wife doesn't see the difference in the Retina dislplays on iPads and iPhones, but boy I do.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:25 PM

Get an AM21 for OTA tuning/recording with the HR34. Besides giving an alternative to the DirecTV Local-into-Local stations you can get the subchannels on 4 & 5 with the old shows. How far away are you from the antenna farm in the north-central part of town?


Would a DirecTV installer run the line for me and set this up in the attic if I paid some extra to him?
What does the AM21 or AM21N cost? Is it just the box inside the house, what goes in the attic? Or does it tie into the dish and the dish acts like the antenna?
Again, is this part of the DirecTV install?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:17 PM

Some quick info on the Protection Plans:

The basic Protection Plan ($5.99/mo) covers the D* hardware for technical issues, and normal wear & tear.

The Premier Protection Plan ($19.99/mo) includes the basic coverage but also extends this coverage to select non-D* devices in your home. This coverage provides warranty support for flat panel TVs, desktop and laptop computers, tablets, home theater, and network accessories.

There is an add-on for the Premier coverage to handle Accidental Damage from Handling on mobile devices. This covers damage to laptops and tablets, including cracked screens and spills. This feature is available for an additional $4.99 a month.

Each device is covered for up to $2,000 worth or repairs/services and replacements/reimbursements. There is no limit to the number of devices that can be covered under this plan.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:28 PM

Some quick info on the Protection Plans:

The basic Protection Plan ($5.99/mo) covers the D* hardware for technical issues, and normal wear & tear.

The Premier Protection Plan ($19.99/mo) includes the basic coverage but also extends this coverage to select non-D* devices in your home. This coverage provides warranty support for flat panel TVs, desktop and laptop computers, tablets, home theater, and network accessories.

There is an add-on for the Premier coverage to handle Accidental Damage from Handling on mobile devices. This covers damage to laptops and tablets, including cracked screens and spills. This feature is available for an additional $4.99 a month.

Each device is covered for up to $2,000 worth or repairs/services and replacements/reimbursements. There is no limit to the number of devices that can be covered under this plan.


Thanks for the info! I think the $5.99/month might be good.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:33 PM

Would a DirecTV installer run the line for me and set this up in the attic if I paid some extra to him?
What does the AM21 or AM21N cost? Is it just the box inside the house, what goes in the attic? Or does it tie into the dish and the dish acts like the antenna?
Again, is this part of the DirecTV install?


The installer may run the wire, that would be between you and him/her.

The AM21 connects to the HR34 via USB and your antenna wire connects to that. It will not come with your order, you will need to order from DIRECTV after the install or get it from Solidsignal.com.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:37 PM

Oh great, I just watch a demo on Dish Networks Hopper and saw how it worked and the Prime Time Anytime feature too, plus it showed me that Dish has SiriusXM as their music stations...wow, I'm very torn now...Dish or DTV.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:39 PM

The installer may run the wire, that would be between you and him/her.

The AM21 connects to the HR34 via USB and your antenna wire connects to that. It will not come with your order, you will need to order from DIRECTV after the install or get it from Solidsignal.com.


I see, but it allows me to then record even on that antenna? So say I wanted to record something on ABC on that channel, since its hooked to the HR34 it will, is that the main purpose behind it? Do the OTA channels show up in the menu through the HR34 listed with all the others? OR do I have to flip my TV to a different input etc...?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:43 PM

I'm assuming the PiP features work the same from DTV and DISH? Such as the demo on Dish I just saw had a screen where you could see what all tuners were watching and they were labled (bedroom 1, home theater, kitchen etc) and so he had 3 tuners used up (I think that was the max for the hopper?) and he chose to join the show that bedroom 1 was watching and it freed up a tuner...is that the same concept with DTV?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:43 PM

Oh great, I just watch a demo on Dish Networks Hopper and saw how it worked and the Prime Time Anytime feature too, plus it showed me that Dish has SiriusXM as their music stations...wow, I'm very torn now...Dish or DTV.

Dish: 3 tuners, where one records your local primetime networks off of one transponder.
DirecTV: 5 tuners that will record anything/anytime.

Dish: 1080i programing is reduced from 1920 to 1440
DirecTV: full 1080i

There will always be plus & minus between providers.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

Dish: 3 tuners, where one records your local primetime networks off of one transponder.
DirecTV: 5 tuners that will record anything/anytime.

Dish: 1080i programing is reduced from 1920 to 1440
DirecTV: full 1080i

There will always be plus & minus between providers.


Well those are solid features right there.
Man though having XM would be nice, I love music.
I guess though, I can do without it, because I'm about to buy a new AVR that has the network LAN in it that will stream it, and I have the online account that I'm paying for now anyway. But then if I had Dish, its part of the packages I could drop that then, or maybe not cause then I couldn't listen to it on the road/iphone/work computer etc...choices!! lol.

I know you can turn on/off that Prime Time Anytime stuff, giving back one of the 3, but if you had it going, you then only have 2 to record other stuff? Still might be ok in my house, most of my wife's stuff is on Primetime channels etc. I'm not sure.
5 tuners is nice. Can you not add more tuners to Dish to get more than 3 tuners? Thats just the one Hopper box with 3 tuners right? I could essentially get more than 3? But that 1080i signal reduced is bad, why do they do that?

Weighing these pros/cons for each is going to kill me and my OCD.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:56 PM

But that 1080i signal reduced is bad, why do they do that?

Bandwidth.

DirecTV has Pandora, which isn't XM.

To get decent info on dish, you should really ask over on the dish side of this forum.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:01 PM

Bandwidth.

DirecTV has Pandora, which isn't XM.

To get decent info on dish, you should really ask over on the dish side of this forum.


I will, I just like to hear the "bad" from each side on the opposite side. So like hearing what DTV users don't like about Dish will bring out the worst, as well as asking about DTV on the Dish side will too, so I get an idea of all the good and bad.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:07 PM

I will, I just like to hear the "bad" from each side on the opposite side. So like hearing what DTV users don't like about Dish will bring out the worst, as well as asking about DTV on the Dish side will too, so I get an idea of all the good and bad.

I try to only post what I know, and left dish almost 10 years ago for DirecTV.
To get a better idea about dish, "over there" should give their pluses, where here you get DirecTV's.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:12 PM

I try to only post what I know, and left dish almost 10 years ago for DirecTV.
To get a better idea about dish, "over there" should give their pluses, where here you get DirecTV's.


Exactly, I appreciate your help. I'm riding both waves right now, in both pools, so it should help me decide which one might be best for my family and our habits. Your info has helped a lot! I thank you.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:19 PM

FYI, DISH does not have ESPNNEWS or ESPN U in HD. And most of their RSNs are Game only HD.

Directv is the way to go for sports or Premium movie channels.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:27 PM

FYI, DISH does not have ESPNNEWS or ESPN U in HD. And most of their RSNs are Game only HD.

Directv is the way to go for sports or Premium movie channels.


Man, I am a sports guy and ESPN NEWS is a big one...dang.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:30 PM

Man, I am a sports guy and ESPN NEWS is a big one...dang.


And don't let anyone say that they are coming, DISH is in a lawsuit with ESPN/ABC.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:31 PM

Or at least I want to...actually I've signed up to have DTV installed on the 27th.
But now I'm wondering if I should cancel and wait it out a little bit longer, because I hate being new into something and then something newer comes out, so getting the free HR-34 is cool, but knowing the HR-44 is lingering out there ready to come to new customers bugs me.

I can wait, heck I've never experienced DTV, well back in 1998 I had it when I lived in Houston, but thats worlds and eons ago. So obviously there is no right/wrong decision here, just whats best for me and my needs. I'm just trying to feed off some chatter about the service and the new and old boxes, etc...feedback about being in this position would be nice.

Is now a good time to jump in or wait a bit longer and take advantage of the newer box coming out when it does? Etc...


DirecTV has more HD channels than Dish.
DirecTV has better HD picture quality than Dish.
DirecTV actually resolves their retrans disputes and does so quickly.

Dish Network is in a distant second place behind DirecTV for a reason.
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