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#1 OFFLINE   chrisjmccord

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:10 PM

Ok so I'm leaving AT&T, breaking my bundle up...I'm sitting at this crossroads for going to Dish or DTV...trying to figure out which one is best for me and my family and our viewing habits.

I've heard the good on DTV, been in that thread and others on AVS Forum, they had me sold, till I started investigating and watching demons on YouTube of The Hopper etc...and it opened my eyes to Dish.

If you were to try to sway me, or make me see and like Dish over DTV, how would you do it, what features would you say are better on Dish that DTV can't touch or aren't quite as good as?

I've heard the 1080i picture on Dish is not quite 1080i etc...because of bandwidth and that DTV has the most, etc...PQ is important to me, probably the main reason I started looking to leave UVerse.

So far the things I like that I'm seeing from Dish are the Hopper/Joey whole home DVR setup. 3 tuners vs their 5 is not as good especially when one is taken for the PrimeTimeAnytime service, leaving only 2 more, but I don't think our viewing habits would be hindered by this limitation, my wife mainly records PrimeTimeShows anyway, so she'd always have that one tuner to record on. I guess if she were watching them while one was recording that would then leave me with only 1 tuner to say watch a live game or some other show right? The 5 seems to sound like a better deal right now.

I love SiriusXM music and that would be a major plus for Dish. However I dont know if its a good sole reason to go with Dish? I will have an AVR soon that has LAN inputs that can stream from my existing XM account to the tuner. So its not a deal breaker but the nice menu GUI with icons and logos of the channels is cool, lol.

What else would Dish give me that DTV can't...?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:13 PM

There wasn't enough in this thread to convince you DIRECTV was a good solution?

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=212058

You mentioned that 95% of what you watch on TV is sports, have you confirmed that you will get the sports you want on Dish?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:15 PM

Ok so I'm leaving AT&T, breaking my bundle up...I'm sitting at this crossroads for going to Dish or DTV...trying to figure out which one is best for me and my family and our viewing habits.

I've heard the good on DTV, been in that thread and others on AVS Forum, they had me sold, till I started investigating and watching demons on YouTube of The Hopper etc...and it opened my eyes to Dish.

If you were to try to sway me, or make me see and like Dish over DTV, how would you do it, what features would you say are better on Dish that DTV can't touch or aren't quite as good as?

I've heard the 1080i picture on Dish is not quite 1080i etc...because of bandwidth and that DTV has the most, etc...PQ is important to me, probably the main reason I started looking to leave UVerse.

So far the things I like that I'm seeing from Dish are the Hopper/Joey whole home DVR setup. 3 tuners vs their 5 is not as good especially when one is taken for the PrimeTimeAnytime service, leaving only 2 more, but I don't think our viewing habits would be hindered by this limitation, my wife mainly records PrimeTimeShows anyway, so she'd always have that one tuner to record on. I guess if she were watching them while one was recording that would then leave me with only 1 tuner to say watch a live game or some other show right? The 5 seems to sound like a better deal right now.

I love SiriusXM music and that would be a major plus for Dish. However I dont know if its a good sole reason to go with Dish? I will have an AVR soon that has LAN inputs that can stream from my existing XM account to the tuner. So its not a deal breaker but the nice menu GUI with icons and logos of the channels is cool, lol.

What else would Dish give me that DTV can't...?


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

On the top of my head, Dish has G4 (also in HD), Epix 1 (HD), Epix 2 (HD), Epix 3 (HD), Epix Drive-In, MoviePlex, IndiePlex HD, RetroPlex HD, etc.

However, it is up to you. I find Dish to have cheaper base prices than DirecTV. We had some bad installs with DirecTV in the family requiring another visit; however, I think it ha to do either with the initial installers or/an equipment. Never had a major problem with Dish, yet.

In the end, I would compare channel lineups.

DirecTV: http://www.att.com/C...nnel_Lineup.pdf

Dish:
http://www.mydish.co...grammingguides/

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

There wasn't enough in this thread to convince you DIRECTV was a good solution?

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=212058

You mentioned that 95% of what you watch on TV is sports, have you confirmed that you will get the sports you want on Dish?


Yes, I wanted to hear the stories from both sides. Posting in that thread gives me more of a DTV bias, where here I wanted to hear the Dish bias, thats all. A lot of the DTV owners don't have all the facts or latest facts on Dish stuff and vice versa, so I'm researching from both sides.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

On the top of my head, Dish has G4 (also in HD), Epix 1 (HD), Epix 2 (HD), Epix 3 (HD), Epix Drive-In, MoviePlex, IndiePlex HD, RetroPlex HD, etc.

However, it is up to you. I find Dish to have cheaper base prices than DirecTV. We had some bad installs with DirecTV in the family requiring another visit; however, I think it ha to do either with the initial installers or/an equipment. Never had a major problem with Dish, yet.

In the end, I would compare channel lineups.

DirecTV: http://www.att.com/C...nnel_Lineup.pdf


Sure, I've been trying to do that as well and so far all the main channels I watch are available on both. You've mentioned some here that DTV doesn't have so I'll need to see what they are, not familiar with any except G4, and see if I require them.

I guess I was hoping to hear more about features in the menu, dvrs, etcs the other things, I considered the channels to be pretty much a wash based on pretty normal viewing habits.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:25 PM

I do like the iPad/iPhone apps that DTV has shown as well, I'm guessing Dish has similar ones?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:26 PM

DISH does not have ESPNU, ESPNNEWS, ABC Family, or DISNEY in HD.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:29 PM

There wasn't enough in this thread to convince you DIRECTV was a good solution?

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=212058

You mentioned that 95% of what you watch on TV is sports, have you confirmed that you will get the sports you want on Dish?


Well, hearing that ESPN NEWS is not in HD on Dish is bad. DTV seems to be the better decision for sports.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:29 PM

Yes, I wanted to hear the stories from both sides. Posting in that thread gives me more of a DTV bias, where here I wanted to hear the Dish bias, thats all. A lot of the DTV owners don't have all the facts or latest facts on Dish stuff and vice versa, so I'm researching from both sides.


Very true, good luck with your decision!

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:32 PM

I updated the links above to compare the two channel lineups. Do you have a list of "must have" channels?

In terms of HD, I did not notice a big difference in HD picture quality. However, I use 720p on our Sony TV; 1080i does not seem to work well with those flow options. I cannot notice a difference in 720p or 1080i on the Samsung TV. 720p seems to look better on the SD channels, though. Therefore, I use 720p on our TVs. I would try to use JustScan on the Samsung, but there were artifacts with both providers.

Dish actually had a local channel and local RSN that was not on DirecTV.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:36 PM

I updated the links above to compare the two channel lineups. Do you have a list of "must have" channels?

In terms of HD, I did not notice a big difference in HD picture quality. However, I use 720p on our Sony TV; 1080i does not seem to work well with those flow options. I cannot notice a difference in 720p or 1080i on the Samsung TV. 720p seems to look better on the SD channels, though. Therefore, I use 720p on our TVs. I would try to use JustScan on the Samsung, but there were artifacts with both providers.

Dish actually had a local channel and local RSN that was not on DirecTV.


Thanks for updating the links, I'll go take a look.
I can't think of any MUST HAVES besides ESPNHD ESPN2 etc, the ESPNs. News wouldn't be a must have I don't think, mainly just the ones where games are on. The regional sports too, FoxSports SW or Oklahoma, etc...and then the locals too, which I plan to install an OTA anyway for back up.

My wife is the one who might have must haves but I don't know hers off the top of my head. I'll get to comparing channels.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:36 PM

On the top of my head, Dish has G4 (also in HD), Epix 1 (HD), Epix 2 (HD), Epix 3 (HD), Epix Drive-In, MoviePlex, IndiePlex HD, RetroPlex HD, etc.

However, it is up to you. I find Dish to have cheaper base prices than DirecTV. We had some bad installs with DirecTV in the family requiring another visit; however, I think it ha to do either with the initial installers or/an equipment. Never had a major problem with Dish, yet.

In the end, I would compare channel lineups.

DirecTV: http://www.att.com/C...nnel_Lineup.pdf

Dish:
http://www.mydish.co...grammingguides/


I updated the links above to compare the two channel lineups. Do you have a list of "must have" channels?

In terms of HD, I did not notice a big difference in HD picture quality. However, I use 720p on our Sony TV; 1080i does not seem to work well with those flow options. I cannot notice a difference in 720p or 1080i on the Samsung TV. 720p seems to look better on the SD channels, though. Therefore, I use 720p on our TVs. I would try to use JustScan on the Samsung, but there were artifacts with both providers.

Dish actually had a local channel and local RSN that was not on DirecTV.


That list for DirecTV is incomplete. FYI

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:41 PM

Thanks for updating the links, I'll go take a look.
I can't think of any MUST HAVES besides ESPNHD ESPN2 etc, the ESPNs. News wouldn't be a must have I don't think, mainly just the ones where games are on. The regional sports too, FoxSports SW or Oklahoma, etc...and then the locals too, which I plan to install an OTA anyway for back up.

My wife is the one who might have must haves but I don't know hers off the top of my head. I'll get to comparing channels.


Fox Sports SW was only a part-time HD channel on Dish before. I don't know if it still is.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

That list for DirecTV is incomplete. FYI


Is it really? I thought AT&T updated it. What is missing?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:46 PM

Fox Sports SW was only a part-time HD channel on Dish before. I don't know if it still is.


The SD is full-time; the HD is usually part-time.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

Is it really? I thought AT&T updated it. What is missing?


A massive number of sports channels.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:51 PM

The SD is full-time; the HD is usually part-time.


I just checked on it. The OP would have two RSN's that I am aware of: FS Midwest and FS Southwest

Both are full-time HD channels with DirecTV
Both are part-time HD channels with Dish Network

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:53 PM

Thanks for updating the links, I'll go take a look.
I can't think of any MUST HAVES besides ESPNHD ESPN2 etc, the ESPNs. News wouldn't be a must have I don't think, mainly just the ones where games are on. The regional sports too, FoxSports SW or Oklahoma, etc...and then the locals too, which I plan to install an OTA anyway for back up.

My wife is the one who might have must haves but I don't know hers off the top of my head. I'll get to comparing channels.


James Long, one of our moderators here at DBSTalk has a DirecTV vs. Dish HD Channel Lineup Comparison PDF here: http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=196101

And another on his website: http://jameslong.name/hdcount.html

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:55 PM

Sure, I've been trying to do that as well and so far all the main channels I watch are available on both. You've mentioned some here that DTV doesn't have so I'll need to see what they are, not familiar with any except G4, and see if I require them.

I guess I was hoping to hear more about features in the menu, dvrs, etcs the other things, I considered the channels to be pretty much a wash based on pretty normal viewing habits.


I do not have a Hopper. However, there is information on this site:
http://www.mydish.com/support/manuals

A family member has a 2 211s in addition to her 222k. I really like the 211s HD Solos even if they are older. You can add an OTA antenna to the back of it an view the channels through the receiver along with having the OTA channels and EPG data. I also like how it is optional to convert them to DVRs with a one-time $40 fee (for all the 211s) and external hard drives for each while avoiding the $6/month (soon to be $7/month fee). The only downside would be if you want to stream on demand content through them since you cannot with the 211s as far as I know.




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